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Post by kdp59 on Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:10 pm

rumors are starting to fly?

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Post by bobheckler on Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:17 pm

got a source for this one?


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Post by KyleCleric on Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:21 pm

Lebron, Paul George via FA. Trade assets that offseason for another star. Though, with Lebron out of the East, Toronto seemingly about to lose Lowry, 2018 season could be between the Celts and Wizards and whatever team breaks through by then (maybe Bucks or 76ers).

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Post by KyleCleric on Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:21 pm

bobheckler wrote:got a source for this one?


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http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246183/Sources-Consider-Lakers-Clippers-Viable-Destinations-For-LeBron-James-In-2018

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Post by tjmakz on Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:30 pm

You can't take any of this too seriously, but it is interesting discussing it.
Here's some players that were previously discussed as being future Lakers:

Lebron James
Russell Westbrook
Paul George
Kevin Love
Carmelo Anthony
Deron Williams

When the Lakers were on the way down, no star wanted to join their dumpster fire.
Now that Jimmy is gone, they have young assets and they have some financial flexibility, LA will become a more attractive destination. Attractive enough to sign a star? Only time will tell.
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Post by red16russ11 on Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:51 pm

This is a rumor started by Ramona Shelburne. She writes for the lakers on ESPN, and is a big time homer. She has done this EVERY FREAKING YEAR for the past four years.
Why, in the name of God, would he want to play for this train wreck?

They can't even get meetings with the likes of Durant.
Jimmy is not out of the picture, btw, he is still an owner, and had dinner with Ball last night.

I thought they were building through the draft?
I thought Magic wasn't looking at any Free Agents until next year?
I THINK they still have Deng and Mozgov on the books for another three years.

EVERY YEAR - TWO max contract guys will sign with the lakers..............
This rumor is crapola!!
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Post by kdp59 on Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:21 pm

watch it....the King has led the Cavs to the title, the Cavs are cap cooked with no young players and James even has a home in LA.

Magic doesn't; want to wait for years to build a team. He will go after Paul George hard , then sw.eet talk the KING

TJ, your team is about to become relevant again.
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Post by red16russ11 on Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:27 pm

kdp59 wrote:watch it....the King has led the Cavs to the title, the Cavs are cap cooked with no young players and James even has a home in LA.

Magic doesn't; want to wait for years to build a team. He will go after Paul George hard , then sw.eet talk the KING

TJ, your team is about to become relevant again.

You can't be serious.
Paul George isn't a free agent until after next season, and doesn't he play the same position as LeBron?

And, what about the "untouchable" Brandon Ingram??
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Post by red16russ11 on Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:41 pm

tjmakz wrote:You can't take any of this too seriously, but it is interesting discussing it.
Here's some players that were previously discussed as being future Lakers:

Lebron James
Russell Westbrook
Paul George
Kevin Love
Carmelo Anthony
Deron Williams

When the Lakers were on the way down, no star wanted to join their dumpster fire.
Now that Jimmy is gone, they have young assets and they have some financial flexibility, LA will become a more attractive destination. Attractive enough to sign a star? Only time will tell.

You forgot DeRozan, who Steven A Smith "guaranteed" would be "going to Los Angeles."
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Post by tjmakz on Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:46 pm

red16russ11 wrote:This is a rumor started by Ramona Shelburne.  She writes for the lakers on ESPN, and is a big time homer.  She has done this EVERY FREAKING YEAR for the past four years.
Why, in the name of God, would he want to play for this train wreck?

They can't even get meetings with the likes of Durant.
Jimmy is not out of the picture, btw, he is still an owner, and had dinner with Ball last night.

I thought they were building through the draft?
I thought Magic wasn't looking at any Free Agents until next year?
I THINK they still have Deng and Mozgov on the books for another three years.

EVERY YEAR - TWO max contract guys will sign with the lakers..............
This rumor is crapola!!

Jim Buss is very much out of the picture, other than being a minority owner.
I have not seen where Jim Buss had any meals with Ball.
Please provide a link to this information about Jim Buss and Lonzo Ball.
Even if Jim Buss had a meal with him, Jim has zero say or responsibilities for the Lakers.
Tuesday Luke Walton, Rob Pelinka had dinner with Lonzo.
Wednesday Jeanie, Joey and Jesse Buss had lunch with Lonzo.
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2017/6/7/15757902/2017-nba-draft-la-lakers-rumors-lonzo-ball-to-get-lunch-with-jeanie-buss-and-family-after-workout

The Lakers have struck out in previous years as far as top free agents.
There's no reason that can't change.

The Lakers have obviously been building through the draft.
Russell, Ingram, Clarkson, Randle, Nance, Zubac and this years #2.
It's now time to focus on trades and free agency.

Yes, Deng and Mozgov are on the books for 3 years.
Either player could be traded (not easily) or could be waived and their contract stretched over 7 or 5 years, depending on when they are waived.
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Post by tjmakz on Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:50 pm

I don't think Magic wants to offer a max contract to anyone this summer.
The only one that intrigues me is Blake Griffin.

Fast forward a year and the Lakers have more options.
Only two more years left on Deng and Mozgov's contracts.
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Post by kdp59 on Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:10 pm

red16russ11 wrote:
kdp59 wrote:watch it....the King has led the Cavs to the title, the Cavs are cap cooked with no young players and James even has a home in LA.

Magic doesn't; want to wait for years to build a team. He will go after Paul George hard , then sw.eet talk the KING

TJ, your team is about to become relevant again.

You can't be serious.
Paul George isn't a free agent until after next season, and doesn't he play the same position as LeBron?

And, what about the "untouchable" Brandon Ingram??

they trade Deng, Ingram, #2 pick and even add another player for George's expiring deal.

James signs as a UFA.


roster before any other moves ( in order of skill)

The King James
P. George
Clarkson
Randle
Nance Jr
Russell
C. Brewer
Mozcov
Zubac
Young
Black
#28 pick

more than enough young players to put together a trade for that "THIRD WHEEL" to at least compete with GS better than Cleveland.

The King brings his own group of vets willing to play for vet minimum

and yes I do think Jame and George can and would play together.






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Post by red16russ11 on Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:15 pm

tjmakz wrote:
red16russ11 wrote:This is a rumor started by Ramona Shelburne.  She writes for the lakers on ESPN, and is a big time homer.  She has done this EVERY FREAKING YEAR for the past four years.
Why, in the name of God, would he want to play for this train wreck?

They can't even get meetings with the likes of Durant.
Jimmy is not out of the picture, btw, he is still an owner, and had dinner with Ball last night.

I thought they were building through the draft?
I thought Magic wasn't looking at any Free Agents until next year?
I THINK they still have Deng and Mozgov on the books for another three years.

EVERY YEAR - TWO max contract guys will sign with the lakers..............
This rumor is crapola!!

Jim Buss is very much out of the picture, other than being a minority owner.
I have not seen where Jim Buss had any meals with Ball.
Please provide a link to this information about Jim Buss and Lonzo Ball.
Even if Jim Buss had a meal with him, Jim has zero say or responsibilities for the Lakers.
Tuesday Luke Walton, Rob Pelinka had dinner with Lonzo.
Wednesday Jeanie, Joey and Jesse Buss had lunch with Lonzo.
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2017/6/7/15757902/2017-nba-draft-la-lakers-rumors-lonzo-ball-to-get-lunch-with-jeanie-buss-and-family-after-workout

The Lakers have struck out in previous years as far as top free agents.
There's no reason that can't change.

The Lakers have obviously been building through the draft.
Russell, Ingram, Clarkson, Randle, Nance, Zubac and this years #2.
It's now time to focus on trades and free agency.

Yes, Deng and Mozgov are on the books for 3 years.
Either player could be traded (not easily) or could be waived and their contract stretched over 7 or 5 years, depending on when they are waived.

It was not Jim.......I was incorrect on that.

Tell me, though.....................of ONE top Free Agent in their prime who signed with the lakers since Shaq. Metta doesn't count, btw, as a top free agent.
They traded Williams last year for a #1 - that was a good move.
And they DID sign two free agents, Deng and Mozgov.
They have made bad choices, including all coaches, and yes I'm counting Walton.
No reason that WILL change.
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Post by tjmakz on Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:31 pm

red16russ11 wrote:
tjmakz wrote:
red16russ11 wrote:This is a rumor started by Ramona Shelburne.  She writes for the lakers on ESPN, and is a big time homer.  She has done this EVERY FREAKING YEAR for the past four years.
Why, in the name of God, would he want to play for this train wreck?

They can't even get meetings with the likes of Durant.
Jimmy is not out of the picture, btw, he is still an owner, and had dinner with Ball last night.

I thought they were building through the draft?
I thought Magic wasn't looking at any Free Agents until next year?
I THINK they still have Deng and Mozgov on the books for another three years.

EVERY YEAR - TWO max contract guys will sign with the lakers..............
This rumor is crapola!!

Jim Buss is very much out of the picture, other than being a minority owner.
I have not seen where Jim Buss had any meals with Ball.
Please provide a link to this information about Jim Buss and Lonzo Ball.
Even if Jim Buss had a meal with him, Jim has zero say or responsibilities for the Lakers.
Tuesday Luke Walton, Rob Pelinka had dinner with Lonzo.
Wednesday Jeanie, Joey and Jesse Buss had lunch with Lonzo.
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2017/6/7/15757902/2017-nba-draft-la-lakers-rumors-lonzo-ball-to-get-lunch-with-jeanie-buss-and-family-after-workout

The Lakers have struck out in previous years as far as top free agents.
There's no reason that can't change.

The Lakers have obviously been building through the draft.
Russell, Ingram, Clarkson, Randle, Nance, Zubac and this years #2.
It's now time to focus on trades and free agency.

Yes, Deng and Mozgov are on the books for 3 years.
Either player could be traded (not easily) or could be waived and their contract stretched over 7 or 5 years, depending on when they are waived.

It was not Jim.......I was incorrect on that.

Tell me, though.....................of ONE top Free Agent in their prime who signed with the lakers since Shaq.  Metta doesn't count, btw, as a top free agent.
They traded Williams last year for a #1 - that was a good move.
And they DID sign two free agents, Deng and Mozgov.
They have made bad choices, including all coaches, and yes I'm counting Walton.
No reason that WILL change.

Wow, admitting being wrong...

The Lakers were in cap space hell for 20 years.
At most they had the mid-level exception to sign a free agent.
The best free agent they signed over the last 10 years was Metta.
That's mostly because they could not afford a better free agent while they were good.

Other than you, I don't know of anyone else that thought hiring Luke Walton was a bad move.
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Post by red16russ11 on Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:45 pm

tjmakz wrote:
red16russ11 wrote:
tjmakz wrote:
red16russ11 wrote:This is a rumor started by Ramona Shelburne.  She writes for the lakers on ESPN, and is a big time homer.  She has done this EVERY FREAKING YEAR for the past four years.
Why, in the name of God, would he want to play for this train wreck?

They can't even get meetings with the likes of Durant.
Jimmy is not out of the picture, btw, he is still an owner, and had dinner with Ball last night.

I thought they were building through the draft?
I thought Magic wasn't looking at any Free Agents until next year?
I THINK they still have Deng and Mozgov on the books for another three years.

EVERY YEAR - TWO max contract guys will sign with the lakers..............
This rumor is crapola!!

Jim Buss is very much out of the picture, other than being a minority owner.
I have not seen where Jim Buss had any meals with Ball.
Please provide a link to this information about Jim Buss and Lonzo Ball.
Even if Jim Buss had a meal with him, Jim has zero say or responsibilities for the Lakers.
Tuesday Luke Walton, Rob Pelinka had dinner with Lonzo.
Wednesday Jeanie, Joey and Jesse Buss had lunch with Lonzo.
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2017/6/7/15757902/2017-nba-draft-la-lakers-rumors-lonzo-ball-to-get-lunch-with-jeanie-buss-and-family-after-workout

The Lakers have struck out in previous years as far as top free agents.
There's no reason that can't change.

The Lakers have obviously been building through the draft.
Russell, Ingram, Clarkson, Randle, Nance, Zubac and this years #2.
It's now time to focus on trades and free agency.

Yes, Deng and Mozgov are on the books for 3 years.
Either player could be traded (not easily) or could be waived and their contract stretched over 7 or 5 years, depending on when they are waived.

It was not Jim.......I was incorrect on that.

Tell me, though.....................of ONE top Free Agent in their prime who signed with the lakers since Shaq.  Metta doesn't count, btw, as a top free agent.
They traded Williams last year for a #1 - that was a good move.
And they DID sign two free agents, Deng and Mozgov.
They have made bad choices, including all coaches, and yes I'm counting Walton.
No reason that WILL change.

Wow, admitting being wrong...

The Lakers were in cap space hell for 20 years.
At most they had the mid-level exception to sign a free agent.
The best free agent they signed over the last 10 years was Metta.
That's mostly because they could not afford a better free agent while they were good.

Other than you, I don't know of anyone else that thought hiring Luke Walton was a bad move.

Always admit when I'm wrong.
The Walton hire was done in one day, by Kupchak. They hired a guy with no head coaching experience. I think Mike Brown showed anyone can coach the Warriors. I think Luke can be okay, but why he gets a free pass is what puzzles me. Magic is not going to tolerate another year of being terrible. Luke will not make it through his contract...........just like every other lakers since Phil
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Post by tjmakz on Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:54 pm

red16russ11 wrote:
tjmakz wrote:
red16russ11 wrote:
tjmakz wrote:
red16russ11 wrote:This is a rumor started by Ramona Shelburne.  She writes for the lakers on ESPN, and is a big time homer.  She has done this EVERY FREAKING YEAR for the past four years.
Why, in the name of God, would he want to play for this train wreck?

They can't even get meetings with the likes of Durant.
Jimmy is not out of the picture, btw, he is still an owner, and had dinner with Ball last night.

I thought they were building through the draft?
I thought Magic wasn't looking at any Free Agents until next year?
I THINK they still have Deng and Mozgov on the books for another three years.

EVERY YEAR - TWO max contract guys will sign with the lakers..............
This rumor is crapola!!

Jim Buss is very much out of the picture, other than being a minority owner.
I have not seen where Jim Buss had any meals with Ball.
Please provide a link to this information about Jim Buss and Lonzo Ball.
Even if Jim Buss had a meal with him, Jim has zero say or responsibilities for the Lakers.
Tuesday Luke Walton, Rob Pelinka had dinner with Lonzo.
Wednesday Jeanie, Joey and Jesse Buss had lunch with Lonzo.
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2017/6/7/15757902/2017-nba-draft-la-lakers-rumors-lonzo-ball-to-get-lunch-with-jeanie-buss-and-family-after-workout

The Lakers have struck out in previous years as far as top free agents.
There's no reason that can't change.

The Lakers have obviously been building through the draft.
Russell, Ingram, Clarkson, Randle, Nance, Zubac and this years #2.
It's now time to focus on trades and free agency.

Yes, Deng and Mozgov are on the books for 3 years.
Either player could be traded (not easily) or could be waived and their contract stretched over 7 or 5 years, depending on when they are waived.

It was not Jim.......I was incorrect on that.

Tell me, though.....................of ONE top Free Agent in their prime who signed with the lakers since Shaq.  Metta doesn't count, btw, as a top free agent.
They traded Williams last year for a #1 - that was a good move.
And they DID sign two free agents, Deng and Mozgov.
They have made bad choices, including all coaches, and yes I'm counting Walton.
No reason that WILL change.

Wow, admitting being wrong...

The Lakers were in cap space hell for 20 years.
At most they had the mid-level exception to sign a free agent.
The best free agent they signed over the last 10 years was Metta.
That's mostly because they could not afford a better free agent while they were good.

Other than you, I don't know of anyone else that thought hiring Luke Walton was a bad move.

Always admit when I'm wrong.
The Walton hire was done in one day, by Kupchak.  They hired a guy with no head coaching experience.  I think Mike Brown showed anyone can coach the Warriors.  I think Luke can be okay, but why he gets a free pass is what puzzles me.   Magic is not going to tolerate another year of being terrible.  Luke will not make it through his contract...........just like every other lakers  since Phil

You have had an irrational and unreasonable hatred for the Lakers going back for many years on BDC.
It's hard to converse with people who are extremely close minded about a team they hate.
You don't need to make predictions and express them as fact about the Lakers because they are just your opinions.

Luke didn't get hired just because he filled in well for Kerr.
The Lakers and Kobe expressed 10 years ago when he was a player for the Lakers that he has the makeup to be a head coach.
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Post by red16russ11 on Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:01 pm

tjmakz wrote:
red16russ11 wrote:
tjmakz wrote:
red16russ11 wrote:
tjmakz wrote:
red16russ11 wrote:This is a rumor started by Ramona Shelburne.  She writes for the lakers on ESPN, and is a big time homer.  She has done this EVERY FREAKING YEAR for the past four years.
Why, in the name of God, would he want to play for this train wreck?

They can't even get meetings with the likes of Durant.
Jimmy is not out of the picture, btw, he is still an owner, and had dinner with Ball last night.

I thought they were building through the draft?
I thought Magic wasn't looking at any Free Agents until next year?
I THINK they still have Deng and Mozgov on the books for another three years.

EVERY YEAR - TWO max contract guys will sign with the lakers..............
This rumor is crapola!!

Jim Buss is very much out of the picture, other than being a minority owner.
I have not seen where Jim Buss had any meals with Ball.
Please provide a link to this information about Jim Buss and Lonzo Ball.
Even if Jim Buss had a meal with him, Jim has zero say or responsibilities for the Lakers.
Tuesday Luke Walton, Rob Pelinka had dinner with Lonzo.
Wednesday Jeanie, Joey and Jesse Buss had lunch with Lonzo.
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2017/6/7/15757902/2017-nba-draft-la-lakers-rumors-lonzo-ball-to-get-lunch-with-jeanie-buss-and-family-after-workout

The Lakers have struck out in previous years as far as top free agents.
There's no reason that can't change.

The Lakers have obviously been building through the draft.
Russell, Ingram, Clarkson, Randle, Nance, Zubac and this years #2.
It's now time to focus on trades and free agency.

Yes, Deng and Mozgov are on the books for 3 years.
Either player could be traded (not easily) or could be waived and their contract stretched over 7 or 5 years, depending on when they are waived.

It was not Jim.......I was incorrect on that.

Tell me, though.....................of ONE top Free Agent in their prime who signed with the lakers since Shaq.  Metta doesn't count, btw, as a top free agent.
They traded Williams last year for a #1 - that was a good move.
And they DID sign two free agents, Deng and Mozgov.
They have made bad choices, including all coaches, and yes I'm counting Walton.
No reason that WILL change.

Wow, admitting being wrong...

The Lakers were in cap space hell for 20 years.
At most they had the mid-level exception to sign a free agent.
The best free agent they signed over the last 10 years was Metta.
That's mostly because they could not afford a better free agent while they were good.

Other than you, I don't know of anyone else that thought hiring Luke Walton was a bad move.

Always admit when I'm wrong.
The Walton hire was done in one day, by Kupchak.  They hired a guy with no head coaching experience.  I think Mike Brown showed anyone can coach the Warriors.  I think Luke can be okay, but why he gets a free pass is what puzzles me.   Magic is not going to tolerate another year of being terrible.  Luke will not make it through his contract...........just like every other lakers  since Phil

You have had an irrational and unreasonable hatred for the Lakers going back for many years on BDC.
It's hard to converse with people who are extremely close minded about a team they hate.
You don't need to make predictions and express them as fact about the Lakers because they are just your opinions.

Luke didn't get hired just because he filled in well for Kerr.
The Lakers and Kobe expressed 10 years ago when he was a player for the Lakers that he has the makeup to be a head coach.

It's not unreasonable or irrational. I'm a Celtics fan, so I hate the lakers. I live and teach in LA, where all they talk about is still kobe, even though he's retired. Try being a Celtics fan in LA............no, it's not irrational at all.
It's also hard to talk to lakers fans, because every year will be the year they get two max free agents, Magic is now in charge, so they'll be good again soon, Luke is the second coming of Red Auerbach, and LeBron is coming here every year.
Don't tell me I'm making any of this up, either, I live out here. I have a Celtics lanyard, and get dirty looks and the finger.....THAT is irrational.
Yes, I hate the lakers and Yankees............so shoot me
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Post by tjmakz on Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:22 pm

red16russ11 wrote:
tjmakz wrote:
red16russ11 wrote:
tjmakz wrote:
red16russ11 wrote:
tjmakz wrote:
red16russ11 wrote:This is a rumor started by Ramona Shelburne.  She writes for the lakers on ESPN, and is a big time homer.  She has done this EVERY FREAKING YEAR for the past four years.
Why, in the name of God, would he want to play for this train wreck?

They can't even get meetings with the likes of Durant.
Jimmy is not out of the picture, btw, he is still an owner, and had dinner with Ball last night.

I thought they were building through the draft?
I thought Magic wasn't looking at any Free Agents until next year?
I THINK they still have Deng and Mozgov on the books for another three years.

EVERY YEAR - TWO max contract guys will sign with the lakers..............
This rumor is crapola!!

Jim Buss is very much out of the picture, other than being a minority owner.
I have not seen where Jim Buss had any meals with Ball.
Please provide a link to this information about Jim Buss and Lonzo Ball.
Even if Jim Buss had a meal with him, Jim has zero say or responsibilities for the Lakers.
Tuesday Luke Walton, Rob Pelinka had dinner with Lonzo.
Wednesday Jeanie, Joey and Jesse Buss had lunch with Lonzo.
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2017/6/7/15757902/2017-nba-draft-la-lakers-rumors-lonzo-ball-to-get-lunch-with-jeanie-buss-and-family-after-workout

The Lakers have struck out in previous years as far as top free agents.
There's no reason that can't change.

The Lakers have obviously been building through the draft.
Russell, Ingram, Clarkson, Randle, Nance, Zubac and this years #2.
It's now time to focus on trades and free agency.

Yes, Deng and Mozgov are on the books for 3 years.
Either player could be traded (not easily) or could be waived and their contract stretched over 7 or 5 years, depending on when they are waived.

It was not Jim.......I was incorrect on that.

Tell me, though.....................of ONE top Free Agent in their prime who signed with the lakers since Shaq.  Metta doesn't count, btw, as a top free agent.
They traded Williams last year for a #1 - that was a good move.
And they DID sign two free agents, Deng and Mozgov.
They have made bad choices, including all coaches, and yes I'm counting Walton.
No reason that WILL change.

Wow, admitting being wrong...

The Lakers were in cap space hell for 20 years.
At most they had the mid-level exception to sign a free agent.
The best free agent they signed over the last 10 years was Metta.
That's mostly because they could not afford a better free agent while they were good.

Other than you, I don't know of anyone else that thought hiring Luke Walton was a bad move.

Always admit when I'm wrong.
The Walton hire was done in one day, by Kupchak.  They hired a guy with no head coaching experience.  I think Mike Brown showed anyone can coach the Warriors.  I think Luke can be okay, but why he gets a free pass is what puzzles me.   Magic is not going to tolerate another year of being terrible.  Luke will not make it through his contract...........just like every other lakers  since Phil

You have had an irrational and unreasonable hatred for the Lakers going back for many years on BDC.
It's hard to converse with people who are extremely close minded about a team they hate.
You don't need to make predictions and express them as fact about the Lakers because they are just your opinions.

Luke didn't get hired just because he filled in well for Kerr.
The Lakers and Kobe expressed 10 years ago when he was a player for the Lakers that he has the makeup to be a head coach.

It's not unreasonable or irrational.  I'm a Celtics fan, so I hate the lakers.   I live and teach in LA, where all they talk about is still kobe, even though he's retired.  Try being a Celtics fan in LA............no, it's not irrational at all.  
It's also hard to talk to lakers fans, because every year will be the year they get two max free agents, Magic is now in charge, so they'll be good again soon, Luke is the second coming of Red Auerbach, and LeBron is coming here every year.
Don't tell me I'm making any of this up, either, I live out here.  I have a Celtics lanyard, and get dirty looks and the finger.....THAT is irrational.
Yes, I hate the lakers and Yankees............so shoot me

There's one Lakers fan on this forum. I have been here for 8 years. Seven years under this name, one under another.
I do not think the Lakers are going to sign two star great free agents next year.
I hope they do, but I'm realistic.
I would be shocked, stunned if Lebron left Cleveland for LA.
Unless Kyrie goes down with a career ending injury, that rumor makes zero sense.

Nobody has compared Luke to Red or Phil.
We feel he's a big time upgrade from Byron Scott, who was statistically the worst coach of all time out of coaches who have at least 1,000 games on their coaching record.

Magic and Rob should be a huge upgrade over Jimmy and Mitch.
Just having the complete dysfunction of Jimmy and Jeanie out of the way his huge for the Lakers.
Jimmy and Jeanie basically didn't talk but each one ran 1/2 of the Lakers.
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Post by red16russ11 on Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:27 pm

tjmakz wrote:
red16russ11 wrote:
tjmakz wrote:
red16russ11 wrote:
tjmakz wrote:
red16russ11 wrote:
tjmakz wrote:
red16russ11 wrote:This is a rumor started by Ramona Shelburne.  She writes for the lakers on ESPN, and is a big time homer.  She has done this EVERY FREAKING YEAR for the past four years.
Why, in the name of God, would he want to play for this train wreck?

They can't even get meetings with the likes of Durant.
Jimmy is not out of the picture, btw, he is still an owner, and had dinner with Ball last night.

I thought they were building through the draft?
I thought Magic wasn't looking at any Free Agents until next year?
I THINK they still have Deng and Mozgov on the books for another three years.

EVERY YEAR - TWO max contract guys will sign with the lakers..............
This rumor is crapola!!

Jim Buss is very much out of the picture, other than being a minority owner.
I have not seen where Jim Buss had any meals with Ball.
Please provide a link to this information about Jim Buss and Lonzo Ball.
Even if Jim Buss had a meal with him, Jim has zero say or responsibilities for the Lakers.
Tuesday Luke Walton, Rob Pelinka had dinner with Lonzo.
Wednesday Jeanie, Joey and Jesse Buss had lunch with Lonzo.
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2017/6/7/15757902/2017-nba-draft-la-lakers-rumors-lonzo-ball-to-get-lunch-with-jeanie-buss-and-family-after-workout

The Lakers have struck out in previous years as far as top free agents.
There's no reason that can't change.

The Lakers have obviously been building through the draft.
Russell, Ingram, Clarkson, Randle, Nance, Zubac and this years #2.
It's now time to focus on trades and free agency.

Yes, Deng and Mozgov are on the books for 3 years.
Either player could be traded (not easily) or could be waived and their contract stretched over 7 or 5 years, depending on when they are waived.

It was not Jim.......I was incorrect on that.

Tell me, though.....................of ONE top Free Agent in their prime who signed with the lakers since Shaq.  Metta doesn't count, btw, as a top free agent.
They traded Williams last year for a #1 - that was a good move.
And they DID sign two free agents, Deng and Mozgov.
They have made bad choices, including all coaches, and yes I'm counting Walton.
No reason that WILL change.

Wow, admitting being wrong...

The Lakers were in cap space hell for 20 years.
At most they had the mid-level exception to sign a free agent.
The best free agent they signed over the last 10 years was Metta.
That's mostly because they could not afford a better free agent while they were good.

Other than you, I don't know of anyone else that thought hiring Luke Walton was a bad move.

Always admit when I'm wrong.
The Walton hire was done in one day, by Kupchak.  They hired a guy with no head coaching experience.  I think Mike Brown showed anyone can coach the Warriors.  I think Luke can be okay, but why he gets a free pass is what puzzles me.   Magic is not going to tolerate another year of being terrible.  Luke will not make it through his contract...........just like every other lakers  since Phil

You have had an irrational and unreasonable hatred for the Lakers going back for many years on BDC.
It's hard to converse with people who are extremely close minded about a team they hate.
You don't need to make predictions and express them as fact about the Lakers because they are just your opinions.

Luke didn't get hired just because he filled in well for Kerr.
The Lakers and Kobe expressed 10 years ago when he was a player for the Lakers that he has the makeup to be a head coach.

It's not unreasonable or irrational.  I'm a Celtics fan, so I hate the lakers.   I live and teach in LA, where all they talk about is still kobe, even though he's retired.  Try being a Celtics fan in LA............no, it's not irrational at all.  
It's also hard to talk to lakers fans, because every year will be the year they get two max free agents, Magic is now in charge, so they'll be good again soon, Luke is the second coming of Red Auerbach, and LeBron is coming here every year.
Don't tell me I'm making any of this up, either, I live out here.  I have a Celtics lanyard, and get dirty looks and the finger.....THAT is irrational.
Yes, I hate the lakers and Yankees............so shoot me

There's one Lakers fan on this forum. I have been here for 8 years. Seven years under this name, one under another.
I do not think the Lakers are going to sign two star great free agents next year.
I hope they do, but I'm realistic.
I would be shocked, stunned if Lebron left Cleveland for LA.
Unless Kyrie goes down with a career ending injury, that rumor makes zero sense.

Nobody has compared Luke to Red or Phil.
We feel he's a big time upgrade from Byron Scott, who was statistically the worst coach of all time out of coaches who have at least 1,000 games on their coaching record.

Magic and Rob should be a huge upgrade over Jimmy and Mitch.
Just having the complete dysfunction of Jimmy and Jeanie out of the way his huge for the Lakers.
Jimmy and Jeanie basically didn't talk but each one ran 1/2 of the Lakers.

Ok, then. Who do you think they are taking at #2? I think it's Jackson, unless we take Jackson, then it's Fultz. Keyshawn Johnson is trying to sell lakers fans on how much better Ball is than Fultz. I don't think Ball is better than Fox, as the stats would indicate head to head.
If they take Jackson, what happens to the "untouchable" Ingram?

You seem to be reasonable, so I'm just asking - not looking for a fight.
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Post by tjmakz on Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:39 pm

I think the Lakers are torn between Jackson and Ball.
I feel it's 50/50, maybe leaning slightly toward Ball.
Ball probably get the nod from me, because I'm highly skeptical that Russell is the Lakers pg of the future.
I would love the Lakers to trade Russell, if his value is decent.

I don't worry about the head to head games from when Ball and Fox played.
I look at their whole season.
I would be disappointed if the Lakers took Fox at #2.
I'm not sure his shot will ever make him dangerous as a player.

Lonzo Ball is getting a bad reputation based on his father's mouth.
It was refreshing to hear Lonzo speak to reporters after his workout with the Lakers.
He's very mature and balanced for a 19 year old and compared to his father.
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Post by red16russ11 on Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:48 pm

tjmakz wrote:I think the Lakers are torn between Jackson and Ball.
I feel it's 50/50, maybe leaning slightly toward Ball.
Ball probably get the nod from me, because I'm highly skeptical that Russell is the Lakers pg of the future.
I would love the Lakers to trade Russell, if his value is decent.

I don't worry about the head to head games from when Ball and Fox played.
I look at their whole season.
I would be disappointed if the Lakers took Fox at #2.
I'm not sure his shot will ever make him dangerous as a player.

Lonzo Ball is getting a bad reputation based on his father's mouth.
It was refreshing to hear Lonzo speak to reporters after his workout with the Lakers.
He's very mature and balanced for a 19 year old and compared to his father.

I agree 100%, as that's what I'm hearing as well. I think Russell will be traded......but why are they trying to move Clarkson? He and Black are the only two guys on the team I like...(Randle is ok...)

My gut tells me they will take Ball. Don't know why, maybe for all the reasons you stated.

Anyway, I think we will take Fultz, but I also really like Jackson and Tatum. I think we'll pass on Ball......lol
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Post by tjmakz on Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:58 pm

I am kind of excited about the effort Randle is putting in this summer.
His outside game is supposedly improving rapidly and so is his body as shown in the link below.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/05/lakers-julius-randle-trainer-body-transformation-workout-program-offseason-amoila-cesar-amazing-before-after-photos

I like Black, but I am not even sure the Lakers will pick up his $6.55m team option.
They don't really need him with Mozgov, Zubac, Randle and Nance.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers drafted an athletic 4/5 with the #28 pick.

I am not sure those rumors are true about Clarkson.
I do think he has significant trade value as a combo guard.
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Post by cowens/oldschool on Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:23 am

I hate the Lakers
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Post by fierce on Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:27 am

The earliest Lebron can move to the Lakers is at the end of the 2018 season.
He will be 34 going 35 by then.

It's like getting a 34 or 35-year old Dominique Wilkins.

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Post by fierce on Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:28 am

Lebron's Finals record is horrible.

He's been to the Finals 8 times and lost 5 times.

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