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Post by tjmakz on Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:09 am

If none of the top 3 picks are traded, this is how I think the top 3 order will go.

Fultz
Ball
Isaac

Jackson has a pretty similar body and skill set as Jaylen Brown has.
Tatum is a player that I like a lot, but I think his game is a better fit with a team with more of a traditional half court offense.
Isaac has the size and length to play the PF position, while being able to defend multiple positions.
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Post by red16russ11 on Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:31 am

None of us really knows. Trade the pick? Get Porzingas? Get George?

I'm assuming this means if we keep the pick.

So, as I've said for two weeks - we will take Isaac.
Tatum is my second choice, but Isaac has been my guy all along.

IF we keep the pick......lol
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Post by red16russ11 on Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:33 am

There is so much scuttle surrounding Jackson and Tatum at the Celtics’ No. 3 pick that many executives around the league are starting to wonder if that’s by design, and Isaac is actually Danny Ainge’s preferred prospect. His interview with Boston appears to have gone well.

From SI.com
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Post by red16russ11 on Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:34 am

Most sources still believe that if the Celtics are still at 3 Thursday night, their choice will come down to either Kansas’ Josh Jackson or Duke’s Jayson Tatum, both 6-foot-8 forwards — and Florida State’s Jonathan Isaac has event crept into the speculation. But Smith enjoyed his recent workout for the Celts. 16 hours ago – via Boston Herald
Draft, Jayson Tatum, Jonathan Isaac, Josh Jackson, Boston Celtics
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Post by red16russ11 on Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:35 am

Meanwhile, to give you an idea of how surreal this has all become, a coach from yet another team said that if you asked 10 different clubs what Ainge wanted, you’d get 10 different answers. “We call him the minister of disinformation,” he said. “He’s putting a lot of stuff out there.” 16 hours ago – via Boston Herald
Danny Ainge, Draft, Trade, Boston Celtics

Love this one - "The fountain of misinformation." Who is he, Captain Lou Albano??
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Post by kdp59 on Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:55 am

OK...as the day winds down, I wll get off the fence here and agree with rambone..the pick SHOULD be Josh Jackson.

he can play the 2 or the 3 with us and with Jaylen will give us TWO elite two way wings in only a couple years, IMO.Think haing K. Leonard AND J. Butler on the same team.

this also makes sense to why Danny is unwilling to trade #3 for Butler now. Why trade for him, when you can have the younger version under a low contract?


http://www.nbadraft.net/players/josh-jackson

11 - Josh Jackson Kansas

Birthday: 2/10/97
NBA Position: SG/SF
Class: Freshman
Ht: 6-8
Wt: 205
Hometown: Southfield, MI
High School: Prolific Prep
Team Site Profile
Statistics

Overall
100

2017 Mock: 3 Big Board: 1 Pos Rank - SF: 1

NBA Comparison: Kawhi Leonard/Jimmy Butler

Strengths: One of the main things that jumps out at you is JJ's versatility on both sides of the ball ... From an offensive standpoint, he possesses a very high Basketball IQ that allows him to be aware of where his teammates are on the court ... While he doesn’t play the role of a primary ball handler for Kansas, he’s averaging a very impressive 3.1 assists per game ... He gets many of these due his natural knack of knowing where everyone is on the court, and having the touch and creativity to get the ball where it needs to go ... His motor also jumps off the page, he’s an elite offensive rebounder for a 6’8’’ wing and is extremely assertive when he’s on the hunt for a loose ball, or rebound ... Jackson also has a very solid first step, and the ball handling ability to get past defenders at a level that looks to translate to the NBA ... He also plays within himself with the ball in his hands ... He’s shown takeover ability this season for the Jayhawks, but for a freshman averaging 15.3 ppg, he’s very controlled, and doesn’t have the tendency to get sloppy for the sake of getting a shot ... He’s an extremely disruptive and explosive defender too, with a solid 6’9.75’’ wingspan, which will aid him in his NBA translation ... He’s not the type of defender that merely hinders his opponents ability to score, he’s deadly in the passing lanes, and is aggressive trying to steal the ball and deflecting passes ... This results in a lot of fast breaks, and easy transition buckets ... His shot blocking ability is also very impressive for a wing ... Jackson blocks 1.5 shots per game (to go with 1.5 steals) and has the ability to get them in one on one situations, or coming over from the weak side ... Jackson has also played 3 positions for Kansas this year ranging from the 2, to a small ball 4 ... He looks to only be able to play shooting guard and small forward in the NBA, but he can do so effectively on both sides of the ball ... Athletically he’s explosive, quick, and has good lateral, as well as open court speed ... His assertiveness, and aggressive tendencies pair with his athletic gifts making him a regular on highlight reels, and this is a valuable quality in regards to team momentum ... Has a blue collar work ethic and willingness to do the dirty work, does not exhibit the prima donna attitude often associated with elite level prospects ... An extremely competitive and passionate kid who brings a high level of intensity and desire to improve ...

Weaknesses: Jackson’s biggest weakness right now is his shooting ... While his athleticism, and his ability to play within himself leaves him with a .52% FG clip, he’s shooting just 28% from deep, and 54% from the charity stripe ... His shot is not broken or beyond fixing, and he does have touch, but it does have a little hitch that will take time to correct ... His aggressiveness is more often than not a good thing, but this can render him in foul trouble, which can frustrate him ... He’s picked up 3 technical fouls, all due to frustration of foul calls, through Jan 7th of 2017 ... He’s picked up 4 or more fouls in 5 out of Kansas’ first 15 games, and fouled out of three, so cutting down on fouls early in games will be key ... Jackson is a pretty good rhythm jump shooter, and has real potential shooting off the dribble, so the honing of his shot is key to him taking the step beyond a high level two way role player and an All-Star level player ...

Overall: Josh Jackson is a high level prospect with a lot of potential in the NBA ... He has the size and athletic ability to play two positions in the NBA on both sides of the ball ... He’s a competitor with a great motor, and the rare type of guy who can create offensive out of defense ... He’ll need to work on his shot to take his game to the next level, but Jackson appears to have a high floor, as well as the ceiling of an All-Star level player.

Notes: Measured 6'7.75 (in shoes) 203 lbs, with a 6'9.75’’ wingspan at the 2016 Hoop Summit ... Measured 6'7 without shoes, 6'8.25 with shoes, 202.5 lbs, with a 6'9.75 wingspan and 8'9.75 standing reach at the 2015 USA U19 tryouts


http://www.nbadraft.net/players/jaylen-brown

0 - Jaylen Brown California

Birthday: 10/24/96
NBA Position: SG/SF
Class: Freshman
Ht: 6-6
Wt: 225
Hometown: Marietta, GA
High School: Wheeler
Team Site Profile

Overall
97

2016 Mock: 3 Big Board: 3 Pos Rank - SF: 2

NBA Comparison: Jason Richardson/Jimmy Butler

Strengths: Wing with great physical and athletic tools with potential on both ends of the floor … Very long, near 7-foot wingspan with fantastic strength, and explosiveness that help his readiness for the league greatly, plus provides something to build on going forward … Has ability to finish plays above the rim and through contact … Quick reaction and a solid nose for the ball, can overpower other wings … Ball skills are quite workable, has ability to create some off of the dribble, in space … Built to run, showed ability in transition and can be dangerous off the defensive rebound … Has potential to be a nice combo forward in the current NBA, could be a mismatch in small ball, would punish slower defenders … Gets to the foul line quite often, not at all afraid of contact and is aggressive driving to the basket … Shooting mechanics are not broken and he certainly has some confidence as a shooter, plus an ability to develop as far as creating offense for himself … Has some definite dexterity and potential as a defender, really strong body control and agility that is rare given his size … While he is not much as far as creating for others, did average 2 apg and could do more as a passer in time … Has improved his shooting over time and while there is still a long way to go, he has gotten much better as opposed to being considered somewhat of a non-shooter in HS … Not a bad rebounder, especially on the defensive end … Conditioning is very solid, has energy and will be able to sustain minutes right away

Weaknesses: Shot selection was definitely an issue, would settle for jump shots far too often and still was not very consistent from long range … Come comprehension isn't up to speed yet, the guards around him didn't make life easy ... Long known to have issues turning over the ball, his hands have been questioned, can lose the ball in traffic and will bring the ball low to often … While he does have a chance to lead the break, will probably be better suited to learn to play more off of the ball … For all of the physical tools he possesses, would be beneficial to develop a post game and maybe some back-to-the-basket moves to take advantage of defenders in small ball … Loses focus on both ends, this will need to be addressed as far as his defense at the next level … Working on his off hand will be crucial … His spot-up shooting was quite inefficient, lacked consistency on a game-to-game basis … While he has potential in isolation scenarios, struggled in college in one-on-one, not particularly creative off of the bounce and could be forced to take difficult shots … Could definitely look for teammates a bit more, let the game come to him rather than force the issue … Can certainly improve as an offensive rebounder, with his size and athletic ability this would be key to him being a small ball 4 … Got in foul trouble pretty often, averaged 3.2 fpg and with turnovers also at 3.1 topg, will need to go through maturation to keep receiving meaningful minutes from the start … As much as he struggled from long range at Cal, going to NBA three-point range will be that much more difficult

Notes: Named Pac-12 Freshman of the Year, as well as receiving 1st Team All Pac-12 honors … Averaged 14.6 ppg, 5.4 rpg and 2 apg in 27.6 mpg during his lone season at Cal … Measured 6’5.25” without shoes, 6’6.75” with shoes with a 6’11.75” wingspan and a 8’6.5 standing reach (though his 8’8.5 standing reach he was twice measured with during USA Basketball is likely more accurate), along with 5.05% body fat … Did not participate in athletic testing and received some mixed reviews as far as interviews, though has been usually seen as smart and quite personable … Was incredibly highly regarded in the summer before his senior year of HS and the All-Star circuit, with many still seeing quite a bit of potential to be a strong wing prospect moving forward … Combination of strength and athletic ability are impressive, plus has shown improvement as far as his basketball acumen and ability … Had an up and down freshman year, with some flashes of brilliance along with some disappointing performances, with a rough end to the end of the season … Wide open game of the NBA may suit him better … Still seen as almost a lock for the top 10, might have even greater potential than the wing players chosen in the top 10 of last years strong draft







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Re: Draft Day Prediction Thread

Post by red16russ11 on Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:21 am

Shams Charania: For Jimmy Butler there hasn’t been much. Chicago hasn’t really been open and really looking to move, as Boston has tried over and over to engage in discussions. 2 hours ago – via Facebook.com
Trade, Jimmy Butler, Boston Celtics, Chicago Bulls

Does this sound like we turned down the #3 pick straight up for Jimmy Butler?

I think that was PHI when they had the #3 pick, not BOS.
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Post by kdp59 on Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:32 am

well, most know I have been all in for getting Butler here for almost two years now. So I do not dislike him at all.

its just after reviewing all the possible scenarios, to ME picking Jackson is the way to go. I do not think anyone we could trade for or sign this off-season, will put us over the top against the Cavs or GS. so best to stay relevant now and build the team that will beat them both in 2-3 years.

Danny can still clear enough space for near max contract this year, if he is so inclined and said player that he wants is ready to come here...... or he can simply continue building with less costly signings or resign current players back on cap friendly deals
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Post by RosalieTCeltics on Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:41 am

I cannot wait for this day to be over!!! this anxiety is killing me. All the euphoria over the number one pick and ...bang....gone. Now, who to pick at number three.....or will we trade........and who will he push for?????

Too many questions, 7:00 cannot come fast enough. Or maybe we will hear something earlier?????
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Post by kdp59 on Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:55 am

more like 7:30 or later for our pick I guess.

FUN Time of the year always. Like a kid at Christmas.
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