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Post by Matty on Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:59 pm

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Post by bobheckler on Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:15 pm

ginoc wrote:real account:

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not @wofespn


Excellent!!!


I will delete my post to avoid board-wide heart attacks.

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Re: The Gordon Hayward Thread

Post by red16russ11 on Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:48 pm

Just read Ricky Rubio will be in the meeting for the Jazz pitch. Apparently, Hayward told the Jazz last year he loves Rubio and would love to play with him.

Hope it doesn't matter, and he realizes his best chance at winning is here.
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Post by Matty on Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:55 pm

bobheckler wrote:
ginoc wrote:real account:

Adrian Wojnarowski‏Verified account @wojespn

not @wofespn


Excellent!!!


I will delete my post to avoid board-wide heart attacks.

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Too late for that bob, mebbe "more heart attacks"
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Post by ginoc on Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:19 pm

The real Ricky Rubio, that's at least as good as Kelly O. Wink

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Post by Shamrock1000 on Mon Jul 03, 2017 6:34 pm

http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/132748/money-power-or-respect-what-will-gordon-hayward-choose-in-free-agency
Gordon Hayward's free agency watch hits day three on Monday, as he meets with the Utah Jazz following his meetings with the Miami Heat and Boston Celtics. As the NBA world awaits his decision—the last big free agent domino this offseason—Hayward faces the choice between money, power and respect.

Money

As the incumbent team, not only the Jazz offer Hayward the most annual money, they can also give the wing a full five-year max deal; the Heat and Celtics can only offer four years. The difference would amount to just about $45 million over the length of the contract.

Gordon Hayward Max Contract Offer By Team
YEARS TOTAL VALUE
Jazz 5 $172.4M
Celtics 4 $127.8M
Heat 4 $127.8M
While Utah can offer the best financial incentive, they may not offer the best path to a title for Hayward. The Jazz have only won four playoff games since his rookie year in 2011 and have the fourth-worst postseason winning percentage over that time. Not to mention that the threat of the Golden State Warriors hangs over the heads of the entire Western Conference.

Power

Of all of Hayward's suitors, the Celtics are likely the closest to having the power to win a title, as they made it to the conference finals last season and the franchise's 17 titles are the most of any NBA team. Boston offers Hayward an opportunity to reunite with his college coach, Brad Stevens, who led his Butler squad to a National Championship appearance against Duke in 2010.

Stevens' presence may alleviate some concerns about Hayward's play style. Hayward ran pick-and-roll in 29 percent of his plays last season in Utah, while the Celtics only ran those plays less than 15 percent of the time, the seventh-lowest rate in the NBA. But having a ball-handler of Hayward's quality on the wing may push the Celtics into more pick-and-roll looks, as they look to upgrade their 12th-ranked points per game production out of the small forward spot.

Respect

If Hayward wants the respect of becoming a superstar, then he shouldn't look further than Miami. The Heat offer the opportunity for him to step in and become the primary option on offense while being flanked by Goran Dragic and Hassan Whiteside. For a team that just missed the playoffs a year ago, Hayward could be a huge potential upgrade to the Heat's weak small forward spot.

Heat Starting Small Forward - 2016-17 NBA Ranks
RANK
PPG 28th
FG pct Last
3-pt FG pct 24th
Off efficiency 22nd
Net efficiency 19th
In contrast to the Celtics, the Heat ran pick-and-roll nearly 19 percent of the time, the eighth-most in the league, and Whiteside would give Hayward an elite finisher inside off of those plays. Miami not only benefits from having a top coach in Erik Spoelstra, but the presence of team president Pat Riley gives them a living legend recruiting Hayword to South Beach. Riley has always had his superstars, from Magic Johnson to Patrick Ewing to Miami's big three, and Hayward could be next.

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Post by bobheckler on Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:30 am

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Re: The Gordon Hayward Thread

Post by ginoc on Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:40 am

Hayward did sell hisUtah house a couple years ago and move to So Cal.

I think we know how Jaylen Brown feels:

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Jaylen Brown: "No offense to Utah but I don’t want to do nothing else out here but play. I came here to play basketball.”

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Post by dboss on Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:40 am

I think at some point today we should hear something from the Hayward camp.

I know there will be a lot of disagreement but I truly hope he stays in UTAH. I do not care if we spend cap money.

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Post by bobheckler on Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:23 pm

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Free-agent Gordon Hayward plans to sign with the Boston Celtics, league sources tell ESPN.
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Post by bobheckler on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:00 pm

NOT SO FAST!!!


Adrian Wojnarowski ✔ @wojespn
Gordon Hayward's agent, Mark Bartelstein, tells ESPN: "Gordon hasn't made a decision yet. We are still working through it."
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Re: The Gordon Hayward Thread

Post by dboss on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:55 pm

Fans ready to celebrate.

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Post by dboss on Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:02 pm

The players that would need to go bye bye digs into the Smart/Rozier level.

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Re: The Gordon Hayward Thread

Post by 112288 on Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:13 pm

THIS IS BUSH LEAGUE!

WHAT HIS AGENT IS MAKING HIM CHANGE HIS MIND BECAUSE IT WILL COST HIS AGENT HIS PERCENTAGE % CUT OF AN ADDITIONAL $35 MILLION.

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Re: The Gordon Hayward Thread

Post by bobheckler on Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:54 pm

112288 wrote:THIS IS BUSH LEAGUE!

WHAT HIS AGENT IS MAKING HIM CHANGE HIS MIND BECAUSE IT WILL COST HIS AGENT HIS PERCENTAGE % CUT OF AN ADDITIONAL $35 MILLION.

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112288,

Maybe not.  Might be they wanted to give a courtesy call to losers first and the leak blew that plan up, so they might wait until  tomorrow to make it look like they were still considering.


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Re: The Gordon Hayward Thread

Post by ginoc on Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:27 pm

There are ways to structure this deal that gives him an opt out when he's 30. He could get the super max and maybe make even more.

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Re: The Gordon Hayward Thread

Post by steve3344 on Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:44 pm

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/confusion-gordon-haywards-decision-sent-nba-twitter-conspiracy-theory-ridden-hysteria-202423997.html

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Re: The Gordon Hayward Thread

Post by steve3344 on Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:46 pm

http://nypost.com/2017/07/04/celtics-are-celebrating-hayward-is-denying-and-nba-is-exploding/

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Re: The Gordon Hayward Thread

Post by willjr on Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:19 pm

According to Woj, the latest is that (supposedly) Miami is out of the running.
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Post by ginoc on Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:44 pm

willjr wrote:According to Woj, the latest is that (supposedly) Miami is out of the running.

Not deja vu all over again, please.

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Post by ginoc on Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:59 pm

He is coming to Boston!

https://theplayerstribune.com/gordon-hayward-decision-free-agency-nba/

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Re: The Gordon Hayward Thread

Post by dboss on Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:18 pm

Well it is July 4th.

With this signing Boston avoids losing out on upgrading the team

Odds to win championship just went up.

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Re: The Gordon Hayward Thread

Post by gyso on Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:07 pm

I guess that it is finally official.


Gordon Hayward!!!

cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers

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Re: The Gordon Hayward Thread

Post by Matty on Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:18 pm

Welcome to the Boston Celtics Gordon Hayward,  the most storied franchise in the league, one of the classiest organizations in the business, the most demanding hometown fans and best damn fans overall in the world.

  Now go help us win #18.
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Re: The Gordon Hayward Thread

Post by steve3344 on Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:46 pm

Jazz fans won't be kind to him when he returns next year wearing a Boston uni. And I doubt there will be a video tribute...       

http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5470758-155/kragthorpe-utahns-preparing-for-gordon-haywards

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