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Post by bobheckler on Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:15 pm

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/free-agent-zach-randolph-could-fill-boston-celtics-needs-in-low-post



A LOW-PROFILE SIGNING: RANDOLPH COULD FILL NEED FOR CELTICS



By A. Sherrod Blakely


June 30, 2017 11:40 AM




The Celtics' two main targets in free agency are expected to be Gordon Hayward and Blake Griffin. But what if neither signs here ... or what if the C's have other plans? This week, we'll look at some of "The Other Guys" who might interest the Celtics: TODAY:  Memphis' Zach Randolph


BOSTON -- For the better part of the last decade, Zach Randolph has been one of the NBA’s best low-post scorers.

Now 35 (he’ll be 36 next month), Randolph doesn’t dominate nearly as much as he used to.

THE OTHER GUYS: POTENTIAL CELTIC FREE-AGENT TARGETS

Denver's Danilo Gallinari
Dallas' Nerlens Noel
Miami's James Johnson
Memphis' Zach Randolph

That doesn’t mean the 6-foot-9 big man doesn’t have value.

Especially for teams that have had trouble generating points in the paint -- like Boston.


WE LIKE HIM BECAUSE . . .

Last season, the Celtics averaged 41.8 points in the paint per game, which ranked 23rd in the NBA.

Randolph played limited minutes (24.5) for the Memphis Grizzlies last year but still managed to generate 8.2 points in the paint per game, which ranked fifth among NBA players who averaged less than 25 minutes per game.

Having a player who is so efficient scoring the ball in the post would do wonders for the Celtics, particularly on those nights when the opposing defense forces Boston to play more of a slower, half-court game.

Because he has been such a load for years to defend on the block, Randolph has the ability to draw a decent amount of attention. That should open up things for his teammates.


NOT CRAZY ABOUT...

He’s 35 years old, and let’s face it: There’s not a huge market for big men who have been in the league more than a decade, and don’t qualify as stretch big men. Randolph’s age and style of play will to some degree limit the offers he’s likely to get this summer.

Not only is his age a factor, but his ability to defend is another negative. It’s not like Randolph is a bad post defender. But the problem is, more and more teams have stretch bigs, which forces him to play defense further away from the basket.

Because of that, often he finds himself having to defend guys driving to the basket or roaming out near the three-point line.

But despite his shortcomings, you would be hard-pressed to find anyone in Memphis who does not love Z-Bo. His infectious brand of hard-working, on-the-grind basketball has made him a fan favorite for years. That, coupled with him still showing signs of being able to contribute some, will make it difficult for the Grizzlies to not seriously consider re-signing him.


IN CONCLUSION . . .

If he’s one of the bigger offseason signings for the Celtics, then things went terribly wrong for Boston. But the big picture remains the same: The Celtics aim to be a little better now than they were yesterday. Adding Randolph addresses their need for another scorer around the basket and a rebounder. But there will be some defensive issues that might limit how much action he would see.

PRICE TAG: Two years, $10 million.

Randolph could probably get more money-wise elsewhere, but he just might be willing to take less than his market value for a chance to play for a team that’s advanced to the Eastern Conference finals. But because of his age and his defensive deficiencies, Randolph’s impact for the Celtics would be extremely limited. Still, having a player with his experience, intensity and offensive skills enhances a Boston team that’s striving to be as diverse as possible and, thus, better equipped to handle whatever lineup it faces.




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Post by 112288 on Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:27 pm

YES, off the bench and some starting minutes.

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Post by kdp59 on Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:15 am

oh god...now we are seriously talking about Randolph (who is old as dirt and shows it now) and Danilo ( where is the trainers room, he is my friend) as FA signings?

hell , better off bringing the band back together...oh yeah, George Johnson already left and Ringo Zeller is gone too.

Kelly and Jerebko are still around I think, Danny best get on the horn or they might be gone too.
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Post by wideclyde on Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:55 am

Bob,

The $10M for two years is very reasonable, but this guy just does not seem to fit into the type of team direction the Cs need to move towards.

In fact, Amir Johnson was getting too slow and too "lane confined" as he aged, and Amir is much faster
than guys like Randolph and Drummond. Even though Amir doesn't shoot from the outside often, he is likely to be a better outside shooter than either of Randolph or Drummond.

I understand that these guys can help our rebounding, but they will only achieve that at the expense of hindering our overall defense as well as slow down our offense.

And, our lack of rebounding has frustrated me beyond belief during the current rebuild, but if Avery Bradley decided to be a better rebounder last summer and came back to perform 3+ over his previous career numbers, he may have the answer to the Cs overall rebounding totals. This tells me that Stevens needs to pay Bradley for his rebounding knowledge and understanding or have Bradley become the team's rebounding coach.

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Post by bobheckler on Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:55 am

wideclyde wrote:Bob,

The $10M for two years is very reasonable, but this guy just does not seem to fit into the type of team direction the Cs need to move towards.

In fact, Amir Johnson was getting too slow and too "lane confined" as he aged, and Amir is much faster
than guys like Randolph and Drummond.  Even though Amir doesn't shoot from the outside often, he is likely to be a better outside shooter than either of Randolph or Drummond.

I understand that these guys can help our rebounding, but they will only achieve that at the expense of hindering our overall defense as well as slow down our offense.

And, our lack of rebounding has frustrated me beyond belief during the current rebuild, but if Avery Bradley decided to be a better rebounder last summer and came back to perform 3+ over his previous career numbers, he may have the answer to the Cs overall rebounding totals.  This tells me that Stevens needs to pay Bradley for his rebounding knowledge and understanding or have Bradley become the team's rebounding coach.


Clyde,

I agree that Z-Bo doesn't fit Pace-and-Space but he fills a major need of ours and that is he is a rebounder and a baby Brahma Bull in the paint (maybe not even "baby").

And beggars can't be choosers at this point.

He played 24.5mpg last year, off the bench, for Memphis, 14ppg and 8.3rpg.  That's 20.7 points and 12.1 rebounds/36mpg. If he will do that for 15mpg (that would come out to be 8.6 points and 5 rebounds) I'm good with him, especially since we have NO real depth at big.


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Post by kdp59 on Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:09 am

but I thought everyone said Zizic was going to be our staring center this coming year?

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Post by gyso on Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:27 am

kdp59 wrote:but I thought everyone said Zizic was going to be our staring center this coming year?

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Post by red16russ11 on Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:48 am

If we don't get Hayward, we should target Gallo. Option 2 would be to bring Oly back, OR make an offer to JaMychal Green from MEM.
Next, we should maybe go after McGee.
As a last resort, as a VET MIN guy only........we should look at......can't believe I'm writing this......Sullinger
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Post by bobheckler on Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:17 pm

red16russ11 wrote:If we don't get Hayward, we should target Gallo.  Option 2 would be to bring Oly back, OR make an offer to JaMychal Green from MEM.
Next, we should maybe go after McGee.
As a last resort, as a VET MIN guy only........we should look at......can't believe I'm writing this......Sullinger


Red,

Would give a whole new meaning to "rolling into town".


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Post by cowens/oldschool on Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:23 pm

Haven't heard anything about fat boy, is he even working out, trying to get back in NBA?
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Post by bobheckler on Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:34 pm

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Post by wideclyde on Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:38 pm

Seems that Randolph got $12M per year from the Kings for two years.

Way more than I would have thought, but not sure that he gets the Kings to the playoffs.

Do the Kings never cease to amaze?

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Post by kdp59 on Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:59 am

actually the Kings signed both Randolph and Vince Carter from Memphis now.

they both played for HC Joerger at Memphis it should be noted. as I beleive did Koufas.

along with the signing of G. Hill, Divac is finally understanding how to put a team together it seems.

those signings are are about bringing in veteran players to mentor the young guns they have on their roster now.

D. Fox, B. Heild, WCS, S.Labissiere, Papagiannis, Justin Jackson are all young players who need vets to show them how to become good NBA players.

all three of those signings are more for that, then making the playoffs this coming year, IMO.

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