Germany lost to Israel 82 -80 Daniel Theis 15 points and 15 rebounds.

international wrote:Yes ,Bob.
Is the same to me,he is such a quick leaper ,doesnt rush anything and is a great defensive player.He has long arms too.I am sure he is going to help our team a lot on the defensive end.Still young at 25,but at the same time very mature and with a lot of experience.

international wrote:NY Celt.
Can you find a NBA team with a frontline of Pau and Marc Gasol and Willy and Juan Hernangomez?

bobheckler wrote:

dboss wrote:Theis will fight for a spot in the Celtics rotation which I believe will consistently go 10 deep.

He has a lot to work on to improve if he expects to play.  The good thing is that the Celtics are wide open and that means that there will be opportunities for all the  new faces.

If he wants to be part of the rotation he will need to become a much better passer.  

The two glaring weakness include his assists and his free throw shooting.  If he is going to play in Brad's pace and space offense, he will need to move the ball better. (0.7 assists per game and .709% from the line.

I think it is important to not get too high or two low on Theis.

His numbers do not exactly jump off the page so I am probably more of a skeptic.

dboss

dboss,

Per Game-2017.......mpg........ppg.....fg%.....3ptfg%.....3ptfga.....eFG.....ft%.....fta.....trb.....ast.....TO.....blks.....stls
Amir Johnson--------20.1-------6.5----57.6----40.9-------.8--------61.2----67-----1.3---4.6----1.8----1.0---.8------.6
Daniel Theis---------19.7-------9.6----59.8-----41--------1.3-------63.9----70.9---1.8---4.6----.7-----1.1---.9-------.7

So, in almost identical minutes he has very comparable stats to Amir.  More ppg, better fg%, more 3ptfgas for the same fg%, better eFG% despite the higher number of 3pt fgas, better frito %.  The only area where he is behind Amir is in assists:turnovers and his turnovers are comparable to Amir's.  He's just not passing as much as Amir.  In the Celtic offense, with the plays running through Kyrie, Hayward, Smart and Horford he might not be called upon to do much passing either.  He's younger than Amir and much more mobile and athletic than Amir.  Amir's numbers don't jump off the page at me either, but he was a starting big for us.  We're asking Theis to be our 2nd big off the bench (I'm assuming Baynes comes in first).  


bob

I do not see the relavency in comparing an NBA veteran to a Euro player that was a rotation player on his own team.  He may turn out to be a solid replacement or an upgrade over Jonas.  No one can say for certain.  

He will be fighting for the 10th spot with Yabusele and that should be an interesting battle.

I was just pointing out that he needs to fit into the Celtics style and become a more reliable free throw shooter.  I like what I see on film highlights.  I will wait to see how he does against NBA level competion.  Same situation applies to Yabu.

Dboss 
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bobheckler wrote:

kdp59 wrote:one would think Yabusele would have the inside track on the 4th big spot in the rotation today.

But Theis' strong defense should move him ahead, IMO.

with Irving and Hayward we finally have TWO players who can produce offense at any time. Horford and Morris can be counted on as secondary scorers ( 14pt/G).

this is why I feel Smart will be the  5th starter and why Theis will get every chance to move into the rotation. Brad will need and want defensive players who don't need touches on offense.

kdp,

A pretty good profile of our strengths, although I think that Theis would have the inside track on the 4th big spot.  I say that because I agree with your last sentence, that Brad wants defensive players who don't need touches.  Yabusele wasn't a defensive force in France and last year he played in a league that can't even spell "Defense" in Chinese Kanji.  Theis is 4-5 years older than Yabusele, he has been playing in a tougher league (not that it's too hard to play in a better league than the one where Jimmer Fredette is a superstar and Starbury is a living god) and he was just named the German League's 2017 DPOY.  Furthermore, Yabusele has played in, I think, just one playoff game in China and only a few in our G-League.  Theis is a 3x German League Champion.  Even if the German League is no better than the G-League, winning a Championship 3x is experience Yabusele doesn't have.  Theis is a serious veteran, even if this is his first NBA season, while Yabusele is just one year older than Jaylen Brown without anywhere near his level of experience despite playing in pro leagues for more years.


bob


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