Should the Celtics extend Smart’s contract before the October 16th deadline?

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Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart’s contract before the October 16th deadline?

Post by dboss on Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:34 pm

I was in a wait and see mode but I am leaning the other way.  Marcus has really improved his body and his jumper.  I am convinced that what we are seeing is not a fluke.  

I think Boston should lock him in now.  His confidence is high and a contract extension will only enhance his worth.

Uncertainty is not good.  He deserves security.  

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Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart’s contract before the October 16th deadline?

Post by swish on Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:06 pm

Why hurry - We get to make the final choice. There's always a chance his shooting will turn out to be FOOLS GOLD.

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Post by wideclyde on Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:33 pm

I would at least think that it would be a good idea for Ainge to see what Smart is asking for before just letting the signing deadline goes by. It may just end up saving lots of money in the long run. Depends on whether Smart is willing to gamble on his performances this season.

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Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart’s contract before the October 16th deadline?

Post by k_j_88 on Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:27 pm

It's interesting to determine what Smart's market value would be. But if he has a great year, the dollar amount will surely go up. I could see him in the $13-15M range for the time being.


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Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart’s contract before the October 16th deadline?

Post by bobheckler on Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:05 am

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MY NOTE:  The deadline is Monday.  The game that is played with restricted free agents, like Smart will be, is to let the market set their price.  That's what happened with Noel (and he wasn't happy nobody offered him a max contract, not that anybody should have, he's a one-trick pony.  Dallas still got to keep him for cheap).  By waiting for TJ Warren (4 years, $50M) and Gary Harris (4 years, $84M) to sign their extenions Danny let the market set Smart's price.  The only questions after that is "what will the salary cap be next year and which players are likely to be moved?"  If the cap is going up, then bids for Smart are likely to be higher.  If there is expected to be a lot of movement (e.g older players coming off contracts and playing for less or up-and-comers moving to another city) then there might be space for teams to offer Smart more money and that increases the chances of him getting a bigger offer.


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Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart’s contract before the October 16th deadline?

Post by fierce on Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:21 am

Marcus Smart is a special player.

Pay him now.

It's not like Ainge will be giving him 20m per year.

I'm sure it will be less than what Gary Harris got.
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Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart’s contract before the October 16th deadline?

Post by RosalieTCeltics on Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:49 pm

Well, it looks like he is not getting a contract now. Mannix said tonight he is going to be a restricted free agent at the end of the season. Rumor was he wanted $20 mill per year
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Re: Should the Celtics extend Smart’s contract before the October 16th deadline?

Post by bobheckler on Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:16 pm

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/celtics_insider/2017/10/agent_points_to_celtics_after_marcus_smart_extension_talks



Agent points to Celtics after Marcus Smart extension talks fizzle
Mark Murphy Monday, October 16, 2017



(101517 Waltham, MA) Boston Celtics Marcus Smart, left, talks with assistant coach Jerome Allen after Boston Celtics practice in Waltham on Sunday, October 15, 2017.Staff Photo by Nancy Lane



CLEVELAND — Talks between Marcus Smart and the Celtics over a rookie extension, never close, ended without resolution Monday night.

Happy Walters, the Celtics guard’s agent, said that both sides worked hard to reach an agreement before the deadline, but by all accounts the team wants to keep their talented guard on a long-term basis.

“But Wyc (Grousbeck) doesn’t want to pay the tax,” Walters said of the Celtics’ managing partner. “They’re into the tax already with three guys who make $30 million a year. If they want someone to take a discount, maybe it should be someone who has already made $150 million in their career, not someone who is just up and coming.”

Smart will become a restricted free agent next summer as a result of the impasse, and Walters anticipates a busy market for Smart, even if the Celtics can match any bid by making a qualifying offer.

“It will cost them a lot more then, I can tell you that,” he said.

Walters goes back to the status of the Celtics’ three maximum contract players, with Horford and Irving both holding player options for the 2019-20 season, and Hayward in the same situation the following season.

“How long is that window going to last? Those guys have gone to Boston with the expectation they’re going to get better,” he said. “Al is getting older. They’ll have to figure out what they want to do with Kyrie again.”

Smart admittedly was bedazzled by some of the extensions awarded to players in his draft class, with Philadelphia’s Joel Embiid (third pick in 2014) and Minnesota’s Andrew Wiggins (first pick) both signing five-year, $148 million rookie max deals. Embiid, who has only played 31 games in the injury-stunted start to his NBA career, has a contract with substantial protections for the Sixers should the center’s health trouble resurface.

But Walters stressed that Smart wasn’t seeking a rookie max deal.

“We’re being really reasonable,” he said. “Whatever we can work out, we’ll work out.”

But the Celtics, who didn’t begin negotiations until last Thursday, have been reluctant.

Smart is clearly hurt by his lack of efficiency as a shooter, though he has also developed a reputation for hitting big shots as well as changing games with his defense and passion. He has also emerged as this team’s emotional leader, with Irving and Hayward still in the earliest stages of their Celtics careers.

Others in Smart’s draft class were also left at the door, with Milwaukee’s Jabari Parker (second pick). Utah’s Rodney Hood (23rd pick) and Orlando’s Aaron Gordon (fourth) all unable to reach agreement with their respective teams.

The Celtics last signed a player — Rajon Rondo — to a rookie extension contract in 2010.




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