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Re: This Leonard S--t Just won't Go Away!

Post by sinus007 on Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:56 pm

Hi,
2 super-stars doesn't equal 1 super-team.
LAL will probably pay dearly for KL. So, who will they have beside Lebron and KL? Mostly scrubs.

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Re: This Leonard S--t Just won't Go Away!

Post by sinus007 on Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:08 pm

Hi,
AWoj tweets: The Spurs are fully engaged in trade talks with several teams on Kawhi Leonard, including the Lakers and Celtics, league sources tell ESPN. Boston has long had the assets that the Spurs most covet in a potential Leonard trade.

Also from him: Boston's extremely cautious on Leonard front. There's so much uncertainty w/ Leonard's future -- health, free agent desires, etc. Will Leonard be same player? That's hard to tell. Celtics don't have to make a risky trade and have no intention to do so. It's an interesting dance.

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Re: This Leonard S--t Just won't Go Away!

Post by RosalieTCeltics on Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:30 pm

Worcester.......Can they include Draper in that trade?
I know we are only giving one cent on the dollar, but, if we all chip in?????? Those two guys are keeping this going, along with the Hayward business. I know it is a slow time until the weekend, but these guys make no sense at all when they are talking and fighting. One yells over the other, and neither one has a clue
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Re: This Leonard S--t Just won't Go Away!

Post by kdp59 on Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:13 pm

Look Leonard makes $20M starting July 1

since both teams are OVER the cap any trade requires us to get up to at least 80% or about $16M in dollars going back. (or $24M on the other side if you will).

so dollar wise Danny would have send Tatum, Brown and Morris to hit that $16M minimum. No WAY Ainge will do that, IMO.

now Irving for Leonard works even up, but that would seem to leave us thin at guard.

my point here is, it is VERY hard to see deal that makes sense for the Celtics even IF Leonard was checked out and signs an extension.



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Post by bobheckler on Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:21 pm

Gary Washburn
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Hearing Jaylen Brown has NOT been discussed in any potential deal for Kawhi Leonard. #Celtics are taking conservative approach in talks with #Spurs.



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Re: This Leonard S--t Just won't Go Away!

Post by bobheckler on Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:24 pm

Mark Murphy
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Speaking to league executive, one thing is clear. Celtics have not received any assurances from Kawhi Leonard that he wants to come here.



Adam Himmelsbach
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Continuing to hear that Kawhi to the Celtics remains quite unlikely. Lots of variables and question marks with contract, injury, and Cs being reluctant to part with stars given that situation.



Ben Rohrbach @brohrbach
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I like that Danny Ainge has created such a wealth of assets that he can rent space this summer in Magic Johnson’s head just for fun



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Re: This Leonard S--t Just won't Go Away!

Post by worcester on Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:34 pm

So much low cost long term talent and picks for a 1 year rental who may have health issues and WANTS to be in LA? REALLY? C'mon man.
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Post by worcester on Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:37 pm

So much low cost long term talent and picks for a 1 year rental who may have health issues and WANTS to be in LA? REALLY? C'mon man.
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Post by worcester on Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:46 pm

Latest update from Blakely and Draper:

Celtics will be signing a combo guard out of Columbua U. - Barack Hussein Obama. A great talent, but knock on him is he only goes to his left.
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Post by Shamrock1000 on Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:03 pm

worcester wrote:Latest update from Blakely and Draper:

Celtics will be signing a combo guard out of Columbua U. - Barack Hussein Obama. A great talent, but knock on him is he only goes to his left.

Wish you hadn't posted that, now our current commander in chief will be tweeting that he is a much better basketball player than Obama...

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Re: This Leonard S--t Just won't Go Away!

Post by sinus007 on Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:07 pm

Hi,
It seems that Danny is in the middle of this KL-to-LAL drama for the Celtics benefit - wants to get a player or a pick.

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Re: This Leonard S--t Just won't Go Away!

Post by RosalieTCeltics on Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:09 pm

Oh God, he won't be better, he will be phenominal, the best basketball playing president to ever live in the white house. He is the opposite of "white men can't jump!" he can leap
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Post by RosalieTCeltics on Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:11 pm

AK, he is trying to make this a three way trade, who could he be after? Their young rookie from last year?
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Re: This Leonard S--t Just won't Go Away!

Post by worcester on Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:22 pm

Kuzma, I hope. NOT BALL!
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Post by RosalieTCeltics on Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:24 pm

It sounds like SA wants no part of Ball either. That father is going to ruin that kids career
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Post by worcester on Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:33 pm

Rosalie, I feel sorry for Lonzo. Glad he is on LA. As they say, not my circus.
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Post by kdp59 on Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:04 pm

Kuzma would be another steal if Danny only has to give up a future (NONE Kings) first rounder.

but why wouldn't the Spurs just take Kuzma and Ingram?

I know if I was the GM at SA, that's what I would want back.


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Re: This Leonard S--t Just won't Go Away!

Post by swish on Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:45 pm

If the Lakers are patient right now -  they will have the cap space over the next couple of years to put themselves right into the playoff picture. A couple of elite free agents over the next year or so coupled with some existing promising young players should get them back into the hunt. Attracting or dealing for super stars has not been a problem for the lakers in the past.

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Re: This Leonard S--t Just won't Go Away!

Post by fierce on Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:36 pm

For the trade to work, before July 1, Celts must include Jaylen Brown, Morris, Rozier, Ojeleye, Yabusele, and Nader.

But there must be an assurance from Kawhi that he stays with Boston long term.
If he won't commit to Boston long term then the Lakers can have him.

I want Kawhi to the Celts.
But if he's just a rental, Ainge should pass.
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Re: This Leonard S--t Just won't Go Away!

Post by bobheckler on Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:09 am

worcester wrote:Latest update from Blakely and Draper:

Celtics will be signing a combo guard out of Columbua U. - Barack Hussein Obama. A great talent, but knock on him is he only goes to his left.


Worcester,

Ba-dum-dum. Splash. No, really folks, it's great to be back in Florida. Blue's my favorite color, and it's always coifed so well here.


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Re: This Leonard S--t Just won't Go Away!

Post by bobheckler on Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:35 am

Dan Greenberg
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Unless the Celtics get to retroactively take one of the Spurs titles as their own they can kindly fuck off in their desire for Jayson Tatum


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Re: This Leonard S--t Just won't Go Away!

Post by cowens/oldschool on Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:59 am

That long article from Celtics Blog is bullshit, in Kawhi’s first few years he was a defensive role player who did not have better offense or instincts than Jaylen last year. Kawhi was playing off of Duncan, Ginoblli, Parker, he didn’t get iso opportunities because he wasn’t ready. Jaylens offense during these playoffs was way better and more advanced/effective than anything KL did in his first few seasons.
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Re: This Leonard S--t Just won't Go Away!

Post by kdp59 on Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:00 am

swish wrote:If the Lakers are patient right now -  they will have the cap space over the next couple of years to put themselves right into the playoff picture. A couple of elite free agents over the next year or so coupled with some existing promising young players should get them back into the hunt. Attracting or dealing for super stars has not been a problem for the lakers in the past.

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any team that adds LeBron this year becomes a player in the conference finals at least, IMO.

lets be honest, Cleveland was horrible last year without Lebron and they made the NBA finals (Barely).

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Re: This Leonard S--t Just won't Go Away!

Post by fierce on Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:17 am

kdp59 wrote:
swish wrote:If the Lakers are patient right now -  they will have the cap space over the next couple of years to put themselves right into the playoff picture. A couple of elite free agents over the next year or so coupled with some existing promising young players should get them back into the hunt. Attracting or dealing for super stars has not been a problem for the lakers in the past.

  swish

any team that adds LeBron this year becomes a player in the conference finals at least, IMO.

lets be honest, Cleveland was horrible last year without Lebron and they made the NBA finals (Barely).


Only way Lebron makes it back to the Finals in 2019 is if he joins the Celtics.

If Lebron stays in Cleveland or moves to the western conference, he will not be in the Finals in 2019.

There's just no stopping a Celtics vs. Warriors Finals in 2019.
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Re: This Leonard S--t Just won't Go Away!

Post by worcester on Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:29 am

Cow, you are right on about the BS blog post extolling Kyrie's O as a rookie.

Bob, if you are indeed back in FL do give me a call. We go out diving again this weekend with our new uw drone.
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