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Stay or leave: Examining Darko situation

Post by 112288 on Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:07 am


By Chris Forsberg | ESPNBoston.com

A handful of thoughts on the heels of a Yahoo! Sports report that indicates center Darko Milicic is leaning towards leaving the Celtics:

* WHERE DO THINGS STAND?: Milicic did not travel with the team to Detroit on Sunday and was excused for personal reasons (the Yahoo report suggests his mother is ill). A league source said Monday that the Celtics have been accommodating with Milicic's situation and appear to have left his future in his hands.

* LIMITED IMPACT THUS FAR: On the surface, Milicic is an expandable piece. The 10th-year center has appeared in only one game for Boston, logging 4½ of court time in a 99-88 loss to the Milwaukee Bucks during the Celtics' home-opener on Nov. 2. But Boston would lose a serviceable 7-footer, one who showed an ability to thrive defensively in the preseason. The Celtics know far too well the importance of depth at the center position and, if Milicic elects to depart, that would erode a layer of that restocked depth, shuffling rookie Fab Melo -- now with the Maine Red Claws of the D-League -- a step closer to an emergency role unless the team adds further big-man depth down the road.

* WRIST INJURY ALTERED THE COURSE: Milicic was a late-offseason signing, but he had an excellent training camp. Emerging as a top reserve, one who matched up with Kevin Garnett in practice as Boston's second-team center, Milicic showed an ability to be a factor at both ends of the court during four preseason appearances (his offensive numbers were an eyesore, but he was an excellent passer and screener, while he thrived in clogging up the paint and rebounding at the other end of the floor). A wrist injury forced Milicic to miss the final four games of the exhibition slate, and slid him behind Chris Wilcox on the center depth chart. Rivers has leaned on a 10-man rotation at the start of the season, relegating Milicic and fellow veteran big man Jason Collins to emergency roles.

* BOSTON'S NEW BACKUP PLAN?: If Milicic elects to depart, it's unlikely the Celtics will see much in the way of cap relief, even if a buyout is facilitated. Boston stood at $71.9 million in committed salary at the start of the season and is already dangerously close to the $74.3 million tax apron it cannot exceed after utilizing the full value of the mid-level exception this past offseason. Milicic is on a minimum contract, earning $1.3 million, of which the Celtics pay $854,000 with the league picking up the rest of the tab. When Keyon Dooling retired this summer, Boston facilitated a $400,000 buyout (and he now works for the team's front office). Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge has previously suggested the bi-annual exception is not in play this season, but Boston seemingly could add another minimum-contract player to fill that 15th spot. Given Rivers' tight rotation and Boston's limited funds, it would seemingly benefit the team to sit tight until later in the season to fill that roster spot. With limited wiggle room, the Celtics probably only have one chance to add another body to the roster this season and, without an immediate need for a big to replace Milicic if he departs, the team could wait to see who emerges on the free-agent market later in the season when their needs might change.

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Re: Stay or leave: Examining Darko situation

Post by RosalieTCeltics on Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:44 pm

You never know what will happen before the trade deadline in ? january. Why commit now. Strange things happen in the NBA, guys get traded that you would not expect.

If the team is not gelling the way Danny and Doc wanted them to, then, for sure one of those chips on the bench will be traded. It is hard to see these kinds of things happening because you get so attached to players, but, it is what it is in basketball.

I do not see Danny jumping at something unless the player is someone they really want. Wait until January.

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Post by worcester on Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:08 pm

From whence is this talk of Milcic deaprting coming?

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Post by sam on Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:25 pm

Worcester,

Apparently Darko gave an interview to an overseas reporter probably Serbian). I think it's referenced in another thread. Yup, the thread is entitled, "Darko Considering Leaving Celtics," and it was started by Bob Heckler.

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Post by worcester on Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:53 pm

I hope he doesn't pull another Bryan Shaw on us. BTW, on a whole other topic, a colleague and friend of mine - Dr. Alexander Shulgin - is a Professor of Chemistry at the University of Louisville. Prior to that he was in charge of all toxic waste disposal -including nuclear - in the Soviet Union, and in that capacity he discovered the healing benefits of 100 million year old organic, non-toxic, humic acid rich carbon deposits applied as a mud poultice for neuromuscular complaints. He once gave me a five gallon pail of the stuff he calls Sports Mud which I've been using on my patients, and it's quite helpful.

Last year he introduced it to the trainers of the University of Louisville's various sports teams, and ten of UL's sports teams won their Big East championships. The trainers and many of the athletes attribute amazingly quick recoveries from injuries to the Sports Mud. (They call it a different name there.) It's especially helpful for knee injuries and other sprains - and psoriasis and ecxema. As far as I know no other teams are using it. I'd love to turn the Celtics onto it. Do you know with whom I could communicate about it on the training staff or how to reach Eddie LaCerte?

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Post by sam on Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:24 pm

Worcester, I don't think there's any magic way. Why not just send a letter with some documentation c/o the Celtics office. Someone like Eddie's not going to be so deluged that he'll fail to read it.

Mail
Boston Celtics
226 Causeway Street
Fourth Floor
Boston, MA 02114

Phone
1-866-4CELTIX

You might consider writing PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL on the envelope.

Good luck,

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Post by worcester on Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:05 pm

Good idea Sam. I'll follow through. I have a glowing article about it which was published in the Louisville Sports Report. Wouldn't it be ironic if Rick Pitino's school actually did something good for the Celtics?

PAGE 16 LOUISVILLE SPORTSREPORT NOVEMBER 2012
BIG EAST NOTEBOOK
By Howie Lindsey
Louisville won 10 Big East titles
last season. The Cardinals are the
only athletic program to send teams
to the men’s Final Four, the women’s
Final Four, the College World Series,
a BCS bowl game and the men’s soccer
College Cup.
In addition to all the reasons for
success at Louisville - great coaching,
premier talent, a stellar athletic support
system, a brilliant athletic director
and sparkling new facilities - the
Cardinals are on the cutting edge of
athletic training and rehabilitation.
Is there something in the water in
the Derby City? More like something
in the mud.
In their search for the best products
for their athletes, athletic trainers
at UofL have been using a jetblack
gel substance the past fi ve
years called “Code Red.”
The mud, now reformulated and
packaged under the name Primal
Sport Mud, is a staple in UofL training
rooms.
Produced in Louisville by a company
called Black Balm, UofL athletes
have been applying to their skin
this all-natural mud, derived from
naturally occurring organic matter,
to help recover from all types of ailments.
“During my junior year I was suffering
from a pulled muscle on the
front of my shin,” former UofL tennis
player Adam Donaldson said. “My
trainer and I were trying all forms
of therapy, but nothing seemed to
be working. We tried the Code Red,
and it had by far the best results for
me. It helped me make it through
my junior season, which ended in a
Big East championship.”
Said UofL swimming and diving
trainer Zachary Brown: “For a chronic
injury like shin splints it is specifi -
cally very benefi cial. I would say it
almost decreases the recovery time,
especially if used daily. It helps with
patellar tendinitis and bicep tendinitis
as well.”
Even though Louisville athletes
and trainers swear by it, Black Balm’s
representatives make no claims to
the mud’s healing powers. Offi cially
the company says only that the mud
is used to “invigorate” and enhance
an athlete’s “sense of wellness and
recovery.” Fred Hina, head trainer
for men’s basketball, has used Primal
Sport Mud for more than three seasons.
He says that the mud promotes
the natural healing process.
So what is it? The Primal Sport
Mud web site describes the mysterious
black mud as a “polyelectrolyte-
enhanced biopolymer” before
launching into a list of all the things
the mud is not.
The Primal Sport Mud web site
says it contains “no paraben, DEA,
petroleum, lanolin, dye, fragrance
or animal ingredients. There are no
preservatives added, and it is nongreasy.”
Also important is the fact
that it is fully compliant with international
anti-doping rules for Olympic
competition.
So what is it? It’s black mud that
makes athletes feel better. Athletes
like it because it works. They also
like it because it doesn’t stink or
burn like camphor or menthol and
because it is a natural alternative.
And it’s not just Louisville athletes
who are getting into the mud. Local
athletes at Hoops Louisville, a large
multi-sport facility in eastern Louisville,
have been using the mud for
more than two years.
“I think athletes, especially weekend
warriors, like this product because
chronic pain fades after a couple
uses permanently (may require
more for different people),” said Sara
Blincoe, director of Acceleration and
Fitness Elite at Hoops Louisville. “I
know a basketball player who lived/
played with constant knee pain for
years, but after three treatments he
did not have any more pain....
“This product can be used for
more than just an athlete, it can
work for the everyday person with
joint and muscle pain with lasting
benefi ts.”
The use of Primal Sport Mud is
spreading. Teams in Major League
Baseball, the NFL and several other
colleges have begun using the mud
on their athletes after workouts and
to relieve aches and pains.
Louisville’s Chane Behanan and Gorgui Dieng
tried to block the shot of Kentucky’s Terrence
Jones in the NCAA semifi nal game in New
Orleans, La. The Big East has had six Final Four
appearances in seven seasons by fi ve different
teams. - photo by Gail Kamenish
PRESEASON PLAYER OF THE YEAR
Peyton Siva, Louisville
PRESEASON ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
Steven Adams, Pittsburgh
PRESEASON
ALL-BIG EAST FIRST TEAM
Sean Kilpatrick, Cincinnati, G, Jr.
Otto Porter, Georgetown, F, So.
Gorgui Dieng, Louisville, C, Jr.
Jack Cooley, Notre Dame, F, Sr.
Vincent Council, Providence, G, Sr.
PRESEASON
ALL-BIG EAST SECOND TEAM
Shabazz Napier, Connecticut, G, Jr.
Cleveland Melvin, DePaul, F, Jr.
D’Angelo Harrison, St. John’s, G, So.
Anthony Collins, USF, So., G, 6-1
Brandon Triche, Syracuse, G, Sr.
PRESEASON ALL-BIG EAST
HONORABLE MENTION
Chane Behanan, Louisville, F, So.
Jerian Grant, Notre Dame, G, Jr.
Tray Woodall, Pittsburgh, G, Sr.
C.J. Fair, Syracuse, F, Jr.
MOST NCAA TOURNAMENT
BIDS/SEASON
# CONFERENCE YEAR
11 BIG EAST 2011
9 BIG EAST 2012
8 BIG EAST 2006, 2008, 2010
7 BIG EAST 1991, 2009
7 ACC 2007, 2009
7 BIG 12 2010
7 BIG TEN 1990, 1994, 1999,
2001, 2009, 2011
REGIONAL SEMIFINALISTS
2003-2012
BIG EAST 31
BIG 12 21
ACC 20
BIG TEN 20
BIG EAST IN THE FINAL FOUR
2012 LOUISVILLE
2011 CONNECTICUT
2010 WEST VIRGINIA
2009 CONNECTICUT, VILLANOVA
2007 GEORGETOWN
Louisville trainer Fred Hina has been using
Primal Sport Mud for three seasons.
MYSTERIOUS
BLACK MUD HELPS
LOUISVILLE ATHLETES

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Post by worcester on Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:07 pm

Well, I just read that some other pro teams ARE using it.

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Post by 112288 on Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:51 pm

Worcester,

Just go down to the training facility and ask for him. If you are a doctor use your title and he will see you. Tell him about the mud and ask if you can arrange a more formal meeting with the head MD...perhaps the ortho MD.

I built a large radiology company back in the 1990's where I owned 20 radiology centers in several regions of the country. I went to pro teams near some of my facilities and the training staff were very friendly and open to any new service or treatment that can give them an edge. We eventually got some of their radiology business. We did the NY Islanders, NY Rangers, Denver Nuggets, Florida Panthers, Miami Dolphins.

So I would do the same. If you do not wish to go down, find out who is the head MD for the Celtics and call and introduce yourself. He'll speak to you.

Good Luck! 112288

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Post by worcester on Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:54 pm

112288 - Thanks. Great idea, but since I'm in Florida, I'll doit by mail and phone first. I'll be getting to Boston in January to visit my brand new grandchild and will pay an in person then.

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Post by 112288 on Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:23 pm

Good luck Worcester. I wish I was in Florida. I miss Florida so I have to get down to the Key's in March/April for some Bone & Tarpon Fishing.

I usually go to Islamorada and fish out of the Lorelei marina! Oh that sunset celebration, I know it well!

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Post by worcester on Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:42 pm

Let me know when you're coming down. My partner in a shipwreck search business, Carl Fismer, lives in Islamorada. He's one of the most interesting people anyone has ever met, and you'll enjoy the encounter. Last year Carl won the Mel Fisher Lifetime Achievement award as a treasure hunter. He's featured on Pawn Stars and The Treasure Divers. Now we're looking for a slaver that sank in the Gulf at the turn of the 18th-19th centuries.

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Post by bobheckler on Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:00 pm

worcester wrote:Let me know when you're coming down. My partner in a shipwreck search business, Carl Fismer, lives in Islamorada. He's one of the most interesting people anyone has ever met, and you'll enjoy the encounter. Last year Carl won the Mel Fisher Lifetime Achievement award as a treasure hunter. He's featured on Pawn Stars and The Treasure Divers. Now we're looking for a slaver that sank in the Gulf at the turn of the 18th-19th centuries.

Worcester,

Ask David Stern where it is. He was captaining it when it sank.

;-)


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Post by worcester on Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:51 pm

Only the meanest, most ruthless and greedy men captained slave ships. David seems well qualified.

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Post by 112288 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:18 am

Worcester, That's interesting and yes I will let you know! I want to meet him. The Mel Fisher museum in Key West is fantastic place to visit.

Ask your friend if he has ever heard of the fishing guide Smoken' Joe Ria. A real character. Born in Key West - 6'6" was an MP in the Army in Vietnam - probably ran contraband in the 1970's on go fast boats in the Key's during the day.

Your friend Carl is on You Tube ....and looks a liitle like Smoken' Joe. I found the You Tube videos ever interesting.

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Post by worcester on Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:24 am

Carl is 74, a former paratrooper, was firefighter of the year in 1975 in Sarasota County, raised two kids from under 6 to maturity after his wife died in an auto accident, has survived cancer 4 times, is probably the best underwater metal detector in the world, and still dives in 55 degree water with only half a 3 mm wetsuit. His nickname is Red Beaver. I'll let you figure out how he got that name.

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Post by 112288 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:36 am

Worcester....I can only imagine!!!!

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