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Post by tardust Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:02 am

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112288 wrote:This gets into a grey area of the game. If you do not exert enough downward pressure on a potential block.......the ball may go in. If you looked closely......the ball and not Collins arms hit the player.

I say on review it just should have been a foul....nothing else.

The proof of what was going on with the refs last night was towards the end when they called a quick foul on KG's block when it was clear as day that Kg had all ball.

Oh and how about the blocking foul on Collins when it was clearly a charge!
Get glasses for the ref's for X'Mas!!!!!!

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Sorry, the rule is clear that what Collins did is a flagrant foul.

If you look at the KG foul call again slowly, you will see that he hit Thompson on the right arm.

I would agree that the blocking foul called on Collins (I think) should have been called an offensive foul.

Its funny that Dwight Howard can block a shot and knock someone into the second row and its not even called a foul let alone flagrant.
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Post by tardust Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:06 am

112288 wrote:TJ,

I saw the repeat today and saw the replay 3X on KG.......not even close......all ball........even Mike Gorman who is not a homer said it was a clear block by KG.

On Collins..........sorry .......saw the replay again today several times......Thompson was going up as Collins had his arms up and pushed down......the rules is intent to injure.......sorry but he was blocking the ball not intending to hit the player.

This again is a rule that is in the grey area that needs better understanding by the league. Also the league gives the ref's a subjective approach when determining the call.......which can be biased at times.

Tommy and Mike said the guy making these calls have been one sided against the Celtics every time he has come into TD Garden.

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It also depends a lot on who is actually doing the blocking. If Lebron or Dwight did he same thing I doubt there would have even been a foul called.
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Post by 112288 Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:11 am

Tardust

Agreed!

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Post by tjmakz Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:42 am

tardust wrote:
112288 wrote:TJ,

I saw the repeat today and saw the replay 3X on KG.......not even close......all ball........even Mike Gorman who is not a homer said it was a clear block by KG.

On Collins..........sorry .......saw the replay again today several times......Thompson was going up as Collins had his arms up and pushed down......the rules is intent to injure.......sorry but he was blocking the ball not intending to hit the player.

This again is a rule that is in the grey area that needs better understanding by the league. Also the league gives the ref's a subjective approach when determining the call.......which can be biased at times.

Tommy and Mike said the guy making these calls have been one sided against the Celtics every time he has come into TD Garden.

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It also depends a lot on who is actually doing the blocking. If Lebron or Dwight did he same thing I doubt there would have even been a foul called.

Dwight does not have a good reputation with the referees because of the amount of elbows he has used over the years.
For an interesting stat about LeBron, he has not committed 1 foul in any of his last 5 games and has been called for only 3 fouls in his last 8 games.
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Post by mrkleen09 Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:49 am

tjmakz wrote:For an interesting stat about LeBron, he has not had 1 foul called on him in his last 5 games and has been called for only 3 fouls in his last 8 games.

Fixed. Lebron commits LOTS of fouls. Whether the 3 blind mice at the direction of King Stern call them is a different story.
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Post by tjmakz Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:01 am

I thought you would like that stat.
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Post by bobheckler Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:01 pm

A view from the other side...

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2012/12/paul_pierce_has_40_points_as_b.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Here's a few excerpts:


BOSTON -- Alonzo Gee was having a running dialogue with Paul Pierce
while chasing him all over the court on Wednesday night at TD Garden.



"I actually was trying to talk to him," Gee said, "but it wasn't working."


Indeed, nothing Gee tried bothered Pierce in the least as the
Celtics' veteran forward, who has torched the Cavs so many times in the
regular season and the playoffs, went off for a season-high 40 points to
lead the Celtics to a 103-91 victory. Pierce made 13 of 16 shots, six
of seven 3-pointers as the Celtics snapped a three-game losing streak to
improve to 13-12.



"I was like, 'Man calm down a little bit,'" Gee said with a smile. "He said, 'I'm just trying to make you better.'



MY NOTE: I love that last part. Heheheh...


"There was nothing we could do with him tonight," Scott said. "A
great player like that, a future Hall of Famer, sometimes they get it
going and there's really nothing much you can do. Paul got it going. He
hit some shots tonight. I haven't seen him play that way in a while.
Sometimes you just gotta pat him on the butt and say great job."


Even Pierce seemed a bit surprised to be told he was the oldest Celtic (35) to score 40 points in a game.


"When I first got into the league, I always asked myself if I wanted
to be good, if I wanted to be great," he said. "Every time I stepped up
and worked on my game, that's the question I asked: How good did I want
to be? ... Working on my craft as hard as I could because I wanted to
be one of the great players. And that's the same hard work I feel I've
put in over the years."




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