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Post by 112288 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:52 am

Rondo may return sooner than expected

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BOSTON — The agent for Rajon Rondo tells CSNNE.com that the torn ACL injury suffered by Rondo is a partial tear, opening the door for him to possibly return to the floor sooner than anticipated.

Following the injury, Rondo's timetable to return to action was expected to be sometime before the start of next season.

"It's still too early to tell for sure," his agent Bill Duffy told CSNNE.com. "But we are very optimistic about his return now that we know his injury is only a partial tear and not a full tear."

Since he suffered the injury, Duffy said Rondo has been educating himself on all his options from which type of surgery to have performed to who will be the doctor performing it.

CSNNE.com reported earlier that the famed orthopedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews was among the physicians Rondo planned to speak with before making a decision on the best course of action to take.

Rondo was at the TD Garden during Boston's blowout win over the Los Angeles Lakers, wearing workout clothes.

It is unclear what, if any, conditioning work he did while in the building.

While the Celtics have managed to win games in his absence -- six in a row -- there's no mistaking that the C's are collectively a better team with the four-time All-Star.

Rondo suffered the injury in Boston's 123-111 double overtime loss to the Atlanta Hawks in regulation but still managed to play in the overtime sessions with the partially torn ACL injury.
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Sullinger: 'I'm feeling good'

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BOSTON -- Less than one week after undergoing season-ending back surgery, Jared Sullinger was back at the TD Garden.

The rookie was in attendance for the Celtics -- Lakers game, his first as an NBA player.

"I'm feeling good," Sullinger told CSNNE.com.

Sullinger, 20, was recently given a cane to use during his rehab from lumbar disk surgery.

In high spirits as usual, he sent a message to Celtics fans.

"I love them," Sullinger said.


GAME STATS

Rebounds - Celtics 48 /LAL 43........ Offensive - Celtics 12 /LAL 13 ........Defensive - Celtics 36 /LAL 30
Points In The Paint - Celtics 58 /LAL 36
Fast Break Points - Celtics 22 / LAL 4
FG - Celtics - 46/87 (52.9 %) LAL 36/87 (41.4 %)
3PM - Celtics 5/11 (45.5 %) LAL 5/23 (21.7 %)
FTM - Celtics 19/25 (76 %) LAL 18/30( 60 %)
TO - Celtics 9 / LAL 12
Assists - Celtics 25 / LAL 16
STL - Celtics 10 / LAL 2
BLK - Celtics 5 / LAL 3
PF - Celtics 28 / LAL 19
Bench Points - Celtics 46 / LAL 40
Total Team Turnovers (Points off turnovers) – Boston 9 (10) /LAL 13 (12)

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POST GAME RECAP


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Rapid Reaction: Celtics 116, Lakers 95

By Chris Forsberg | ESPNBoston.com

THE NITTY GRITTY
Paul Pierce scored a team-high 25 points on 10-of-17 shooting to go along with seven rebounds, six assists, and a block before resting for much of the final frame. Jeff Green matched his season high with 19 points off the bench, while Jason Terry kicked in 15 more. Kevin Garnett, the newest member of the league's elite 25,000-point club, overcame early foul trouble to score 15 points to go along with five rebounds and four assists over a mere 23 minutes. Kobe Bryant scored a game-high 27 points on 9-of-15 shooting (this despite solid defense by Courtney Lee), while Dwight Howard had nine points and nine rebounds for the Lakers.

MILESTONE MOMENT: KG'S 25,000TH POINT
Garnett became only the 16th player in NBA history to reach 25,000 points with a vintage turnaround fadeaway over Earl Clark early in the second quarter. When the moment was acknowledged during the next stoppage in play, Garnett received a standing ovation and waved to the crowd. For more on the milestone, hop HERE.

TURNING POINT
The Celtics were up 15 with three minutes to go in the third quarter, but just in case Los Angeles had any thoughts of a rally, Boston slammed the door -- and slammed it hard. Terry hit a 3-pointer before a dizzying sequence in which Green delivered a thunderous one-handed jam and hustled back for a chasedown swat on an Antawn Jamison layup before Pierce drilled a 3-pointer of his own to put Boston on top 95-69 and sent the Garden into an absolute frenzy.

WHISTLES WHILE YOU WORK
Two fouls over the first 2:08 forced Garnett to the bench and it took Jason Collins a mere three seconds to get his first foul after subbing in his place. The Lakers were in the bonus in 2½ minutes into the game as the Celtics were whistled early and often. Collins picked up three fouls over a 5½-minute stint and Boston was forced to lean heavy on Chris Wilcox (who rewarded the team with six points and a plus-9 in plus/minus in 10:47 of first-half action).

VALUE THE BALL
The Celtics built a 14-point halftime lead in large part by taking care of the basketball. The Celtics had only two first-half turnovers (and the Lakers didn't cash them in for points). Boston also played a solid second quarter, limiting the Lakers to 37.5 shooting (9 of 24), while they shot a blistering 58.8 percent (10 of 17) to outscore Los Angeles, 31-21. For the game, Boston committed a mere nine turnovers (leading to just six points).

MELO'S FAB FIRST BUCKET
Celtics rookie center Fab Melo got five minutes of trash time and registered his first NBA bucket with a layup off a feed from Avery Bradley late in the game. Melo is incredibly raw, but the arena goes nuts when he hits the floor. He was also credited with a block, but finished minus-6 in plus/minus.

WHAT IT MEANS
The Celtics matched a season high by winning their sixth straight (and have now won 12 of their last 18 overall, sandwiching both of their six-game winning streaks around a six-game losing streak). Even after playing on Wednesday night in Toronto, Boston didn't lack for energy and absolutely dominated the middle quarters. The Celtics surely don't mind adding to the drama in La-La Land. Boston gets two days off before hosting the Denver Nuggets on Sunday night.
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FAST BREAK: PAUL PIERCE, CELTICS SLAY KOBE BRYANT, LAKERS TO WIN 6TH STRAIGHT SANS RAJON RONDO
By Ben Rohrbach

Kevin Garnett scored his 25,000th career point, Paul Pierce outshined Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard showed up (but not really), Fab Melo scored his first NBA points and the Celtics won their sixth straight game without Rajon Rondo, 116-95 against the Lakers. All in all, not a bad night for the C's.

WHAT WENT RIGHT

Exclusive membership: With a fadeaway jumper 3:52 into the second quarter, Kevin Garnett became the 16th player in NBA history to score 25,000 points. He joined Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Karl Malone, Michael Jordan, Wilt Chamberlain, Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, Moses Malone, Elvin Hayes, Hakeem Olajuwon, Oscar Robertson, Dominique Wilkins, John Havlicek, Alex English, Reggie Miller and Jerry West. Garnett became the first player to amass 25,000 points, 10,000 rebounds, 5,000 assists, 1,500 blocks and 1,500 steals in his career. During the following timeout, after Doc Rivers drew up a play, the crowd saluted Garnett, who returned the favor.

Winter Green: For the sixth time in seven games, Jeff Green scored double-digit points. He entered the game averaging 13 points, four rebounds, three assists and two blocks in 26.3 minutes a night this month. That's 17.8 points, 5.5 rebounds, 4.1 assists and 2.3 blocks per 36 minutes. That's good. He's also played better defensively, assuming some of the load on Carmelo Anthony, LeBron James and Kobe Bryant over the past eight games.

The sequence: The Celtics closed the third quarter on a 12-3 run that seemed more like an 83-1 run. The remarkable stretch featured the best of what these C's have to offer: the Brandon Bass mid-range game (18-footer), Avery Bradley's defense (picked Bryant's pocket), Jason Terry on the runway (a transition triple), Jeff Green's athleticism (a fast-break dunk followed by a block of Antawn Jamison) and both Paul Pierce's step-back jumper (from 19 feet) and his sense for the moment (a dagger of a 3). All that gave the Celtics a 95-69 lead after three, sent the Garden crowd into a frenzy and reminded just about everyone of Game 6 of the 2008 NBA finals.

WHAT WENT WRONG

Foul mood: In a span of 39 seconds — just two minutes into the game — the Celtics committed five fouls, including two by Kevin Garnett. Enter Jason Collins, who didn't fare much better despite his reputation as the so-called Dwight stopper. Collins quickly racked up three personal fouls, giving way to Chris Wilcox. On the bright side, the Lakers missed 10-of-18 first-half free throws (Howard: 1-6 FT) and Garnett survived the first half with the two fouls.

Kobe being Kobe: It's probably hard for Celtics fans to stop and appreciate Bryant's offensive bag of tricks, but there's something special about the fact that two natural born scorers like he and Pierce have played in L.A. and Boston for the entirety of their careers. Bryant's best shot of the night — a ridiculous up-and-under — got waved off by a foul, but his jump shot along the baseline to close out the first half was classic Kobe. Keeping the Lakers within striking distance for most of the night, Bryant finished with 27 points on 9-of-15 shooting.

No Leandro: The Celtics scored 100 points, and somehow Leandro Barbosa wasn't involved. He finished 0-for-4 from the floor in 16 minutes, but still managed to contribute four rebounds and three assists. This is nitpicking, for sure, but the Celtics ran the Lakers out of the Garden and won their sixth straight game without Rondo. There wasn't much that went wrong.

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Post by 112288 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:55 am

GINO TIME TONIGHT AT THE GARDEN! CONGRADS TO KG AND 25,000 POINTS AND COUNTING!

THAT'S 6 IN A ROW!

GREAT GAME BY JEFF GREEN....HE'S GETTING STRONGER......

ALL FORUM MEMBERS PLEASE BE CAREFUL AND BE SAFE.....LOOKS LIKE A VICIOUS STORM. ON LONG ISLAND THEY HAVE BEEN UPPING THE TOTALS TO 15" - 20"....BOSTON 24" +

HEY GYSO WHERE'S THAT BRANDY!

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Post by gyso on Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:20 am

KG:
25,000 points
10,000 rebounds
5,000 assists
1,500 steals
1,500 blocks

This is from memory, there was a graphic during the game, did I miss anything? Either way, KG is the only one with these kinds of numbers in this many categories.

112288, hang in there!!

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Post by gyso on Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:29 am


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Post by gyso on Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:38 am



It looks like I will get 10-14 inches. I live between Bangor and Greenville, more or less.

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Post by 112288 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:40 am

GYSO......YOUR THE BEST! GOTTA LOVE THE DRAWING!


HEY SAM.....NO SURFING THIS WEEKEND!

MRKLEEN...HUNKER DOWN!

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Post by 112288 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:47 am

Wow Gyso...you are all the way up there......must be beautiful country...send some snap shots after the snow....I'll do the same as well.

On St Pattys Day weekend ....On Friday my wife and are are going for a drive up to Kennebunkport for the day........was there on Columbus Day weekend.......Never had Maine Lobster before........Never will eat anything else...it was the best tasting I ever had.......sweet tasting....not stringy the worlds best!

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Post by gyso on Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:47 am

112288 wrote:GYSO......YOUR THE BEST! GOTTA LOVE THE DRAWING!


HEY SAM.....NO SURFING THIS WEEKEND!

MRKLEEN...HUNKER DOWN!

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112288,

I found these on the Bangor Daily News website in an article about the storm. One of the comments included a link to the cartoon. Another comment said, "The character in the cartoon can't be from Maine. He isn't holding Allen's coffee brandy."

http://bangordailynews.com/2013/02/07/news/state/a-big-snow-event-highly-likely-friday-forecasters-say/

Too funny!!

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Post by gyso on Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:55 am

112288 wrote:Wow Gyso...you are all the way up there......must be beautiful country...send some snap shots after the snow....I'll do the same as well.

On St Pattys Day weekend ....On Friday my wife and are are going for a drive up to Kennebunkport for the day........was there on Columbus Day weekend.......Never had Maine Lobster before........Never will eat anything else...it was the best tasting I ever had.......sweet tasting....not stringy the worlds best!

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Kennebunkport, President Bush has a summer place there right on the water. I've never seen it, but I hear it is very nice.

On your way through NH, stop at the state liquor store right off the highway. There are two of them, one north-bound and one south-bound (in case you forget to get it while driving north!!). Pick up some Allen's coffee brandy. Fill up a tall glass with ice, 1/3 Allen's, 2/3 milk, drink it through a straw. Fat a$$ in a glass!!

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Post by gyso on Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:01 am



Here is a picture that my youngest daughter took out my back porch window after the last snowstorm. I think it would make a great picture puzzle.

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Post by 112288 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:18 am

Gyso, Yes I remember passing them coming and going....good idea, I will and thanks for the drink instructions!

Great pictures.....she has an eye for photography!

Thanks for posting the articles!


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Post by Outside on Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:49 am

Great win for Boston. At least one team showed up with playoff intensity.

Boston got on a roll and was clicking on all cylinders. Their defense, athleticism, and passing were impressive. They've really got something going, and a win like this can do wonders for their confidence in their post-Rondo style of play.

I figured Pierce would be on after a sub-par game last night, and he was. During the second and third periods, I thought he went too much into hero-ball mode, but he made his shots, and that just amped the team up even more.

I was most impressed by the Celtic bench. It seemed like they all made contributions. That was really good team ball. They're not always going to hit their shots like tonight, and they'll have stretches when they turn the ball over and lose leads, but they looked like one of the top teams in the East. It will be interesting to see if they can keep this going and build on this. For me, the question has changed from, "Will they make the playoffs?" to "How far up the standings can they go?"

What concerns me most is their vulnerability to injury. They've lost two key players for the season, so they've already had more than their fair share of bad luck in that department, but with half the season to go, someone's bound to have something happen somewhere along the way. If all goes well, it will be a temporary thing and they can go into the playoffs healthy with this group.

LA had the misfortune of missing some makeable shots early and not getting a significant contribution from Dwight, Earl Clark, or Metta World War. Jamison did okay off the bench, but he missed some shots and free throws that he should've made. But mostly, they looked like a team still in disarray. Things have gone better recently, but they still aren't playing like a unit that has bought into a system, and the contrast between them and Boston in that regard was striking. The difference in athleticism was also apparent, and when the pace picked up in the second quarter, I thought LA made a huge mistake trying to keep up with the Celtics.

Dwight should just have surgery and use the time between now and training camp to rehab his shoulder and back and whatever else. In his current state, he's a detriment to LA. They have numerous possessions when he gets the ball down low, and those should be resulting in points at a high rate, but he looks awkward with the ball, takes poor shots, or gets fouled and misses free throws. So what should be a strength -- scoring by Dwight in the low post -- turns into a negative -- wasted opportunities with little scoring.

Dwight has the occasional good game, but when he's off like this, they're really going to miss Gasol.

It will be interesting to see how Boston follows up this effort in their game Sunday against Denver. The Nuggets are sneaky good, have been playing very well, and thumped Chicago tonight.

Good luck to everyone back there with the snowstorm. Stay safe, stay warm, and let us know how it goes.

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Post by cowens/oldschool on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:29 am

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I've noticed this year Howard seems to get stripped of the ball more than ever, I don't know if its the system or it takes more time for him to gather himself, probably both. Lakers lack of depth really showed and poor Steve Nash, he just can't hide on defense. Whether hes defending a point or SG, either position can just go right after him so easily, its almost not fair to do that to him as hes a HoFer and been a great ambassador for the game.

Boy do I love Paul Pierce!!! love the way he carried us early and took big shots, initiated offense and shared the ball. He seems to be playing such great team ball, scoring, passing and not dominating the ball or jacking up bad shots.

Jeff Green came to play and was easily most athletic player on floor, this kid has all star talent and is really playing hard and morphed himself into a very good defender. All of the sudden we've got alot of very good defensive players on the team playing together as a unit in synch.....great to see. KG, AB, Lee, Pierce, Green can all get after it defensively.

This movement, running, up tempo is so much fun to watch, the secondary break is so devastating, was so easy to swing the ball to a different open lane or spot for a wide open look. AB and Lee may be the best defensive backcourt in the league.

Good luck to everyone dealing with the storm.

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Post by Sam on Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:26 am

So gyso, I gather that you live in a community of tenements. LOL. Seriously, it looks like perfect Maine setting, and I can easily envision animals all over the place.

To anyone:

This game was another good example of what can happen when it seems to one team that the other team is coming from all directions. That's what these guys do. On offense, first it was Pierce scoring practically at will. Then KG returned from his temporary exile and started banging away. Then it was Green for a while. Then Pierce again. Then JET got into the act. Meanwhile, Bradley and Lee were filling any gaps with sneaky sniping, and Brandon Bass eventually got into the act.

Meanwhile, the Celts were all swarming on defense. When Kobe sets his mind to post up incessantly, he's going to score. But I thought Lee and Green made him work really hard for his points.

And I want to make special mention of the job Jason Collins did. Yes, I'm aware that he played only five minutes, but I believe they were pivotal minutes. Just as the Lakers were undoubtedly licking their chops to have gotten KG in early foul trouble, in came Jason and stood up to Dwight. He committed three fouls, but that's part of his job—especially against a lousy free throw shooter. I believe it was during that time that Dwight (who probably wasn't thrilled to be there in the first place) lost what will he had left in this game.

Outside, I have to disagree about Pierce playing "hero ball." I associate hero ball with trying to win the game oneself to the exclusion of teammates. If anything, Kobe played hero ball far more than Paul did, tacitly acknowledging that his (Kobe's) teammates couldn't do much of anything.

What Paul did was to be the catalyst, setting the tone for a beatdown that countered the majority of the tentative forays the Lakers made. Paul involved teammates (six assists to none for Kobe). And he had the stones to shoot(and make) the dagger three because he had a veteran's "feel" for the theater of the moment and the savvy to know when the Lakers had no shot-blocker to prevent his two key old-fashioned three-point plays. I felt it was just about the perfect blending of personal aggressiveness and team leadership on Paul's part.

For those who were born too late, tonight you were treated to old-fashioned 1950s-1960s basketball—but with a higher shooting percentage, three-point shot contributions, and roughly an additional yard of material in each uniform. Back-to-backs be damned! This crew simply suffocated their opponent.

This is a bunch of people who just love to play basketball. More important, they love to play basketball roles. And they're skilled enough so that they can ensure that the roles are complementary.

I agree with Outside's concern about possible injuries down the line. I worried when Bradlee went to the dressing room after holding his foot tonight. One of the best ways to cut the odds of injury is to focus on playing familiar, comfortable roles so that there's no need for unfamiliar or excessive exertion. That description fits this team to a "T."

Anyway, it won't all go this smoothly, and I still feel Danny will add another big to the roster, although the odds against a trade are lengthening. But, with every game, this group is increasing its realization of what they have and what they can accomplish together. Tonight, in my dotage, I actually went to check the calender in case it might be April already. I suspect that what will transpire this weekend will reinforce the fact that it isn't. Here's to a safe, warm weekend for everybody in the storm's path. And Go Celtics!

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Post by Outside on Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:53 am

Sam wrote:Outside, I have to disagree about Pierce playing "hero ball." I associate hero ball with trying to win the game oneself to the exclusion of teammates. If anything, Kobe played hero ball far more than Paul did, tacitly acknowledging that his (Kobe's) teammates couldn't do much of anything.
Just to clarify, you've got no argument from me about Kobe resorting to more isolation that Pierce.

What I was referring to regarding Pierce was a certain stretch in the third quarter. Here's the Celtic scoring for the period:

KG basket - Pierce assist
Lee basket - Bradley assist
Bradley basket - Lee assist
Bradley two free throws
KG basket - Bradley assist
Lee basket - Pierce assist
Pierce basket plus free throw
Pierce basket
Pierce basket
Bass basket - Terry assist
Bass basket - Pierce assist
Bradley basket (off a steal)
Pierce basket
Terry 3-pt basket - Bass assist
Green basket - Pierce assist
Pierce 3-pt basket - Terry assist

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=400278453&period=3

Notice that Pierce had four unassisted baskets in the period, but other than Pierce, every other Celtic basket in the period is assisted except for Bradley's layup off a steal when the Lakers inbounded the ball. All those other non-Pierce baskets came off of beautiful, unselfish ball movement (including multiple assists from Pierce).

The part I have in bold is the stretch I was referring to. It starts with five minutes left in the period and the Celtics up by 11. For the next couple of minutes, Pierce switched into "hero mode" and dominated the offense by himself. It's part of his nature to want to go for the jugular at key points, and when he's making shots and has that killer instinct, he can put a game away, and that's what he did here. When he was done, there were two minutes left and the Celtics were up 21.

Some people may consider his play at that juncture to be a good thing, and it certainly was effective in this game. It may have been easy to overlook considering that it was a relatively short time during a quarter when the team otherwise played nearly flawless team basketball, making 15 of 19 shots and turning the game into a rout.

All I'm pointing out is that Pierce's play during that time struck me as a departure from the ball and player movement that had been working so well up to that point, and that if his shots hadn't fallen, it could've been a momentum killer instead of booster. I didn't understand the reason for it, except to give Pierce a chance to flex his killer instinct, which he often (not always, but often) exercises through individual play. In short, it was a brief burst of hero-ball that worked exceptionally well this time.

If you happen to have the game on tape or can watch a replay, look at that section of the third quarter and let me know if you still disagree about what I'm saying.

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Post by tardust on Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:03 am

Wow in that same stretch he also had 4 assists. Looks to me like someone playing in the flow of the game, sharing the ball, scoring when the opportunity is there. JMO.

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Post by dboss on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:02 am

I thought Pierce took a couple of questionable heat Check shots but overall he played very well as did the entire team.

I thought Bradley played great defense. The Lakers were reduced to Kobe going one on one. Lee and Green also played strong defense.

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Post by 112288 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:17 am

We'll never see a repeat of 1978

By Peter Gelzinis / Boston Herald

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/columnists/peter_gelzinis/2013/02/well_never_see_repeat_1978

We’ve been too lucky for too long.

There was no winter last winter, certainly not in the city. No snow emergencies. No reason to christen the shovel you bought to pick up the snow that never came. No need to wear the new boots you bought to replace the ones that got their baptism of fire 35 years ago in the Blizzard of ’78.

For the past four days we’ve been told that winter’s about to come back with a vengeance, estimates of anywhere between a foot and 3 feet of snow.


The fact it’s returning at about the same time of year as the last truly biblical snowstorm to shut this city down for a week has generated a kind of goofy nostalgia for our favorite blizzard.

A couple of nights ago, I watched an ancient clip of WCVB’s weatherman (I’m sorry, meteorologist) Harvey Leonard, decked out in ’70s polyester, a fat tie and lots of blow-dried hair, actually drawing storm lines on a primitive map as he warned of something ferocious headed this way.

The station was celebrating the fact that young Harvey was the only prognosticator to call the ’78 blizzard correctly, even though he was working at another station back in the day.

Kevin White was mayor in ’78 and he did not call for the residents up and down East Broadway to get their cars off the street. No, I left my used Pontiac in front of my house, where it remained entombed for 10 days (it took me another 10 to dig it out) and was almost scooped up by a giant front-end loader.

As I walked 2 miles home from the Herald late that Monday night in the thick of the storm, all I could think off was that scene in “Dr. Zhivago,” where Omar Sharif wanders, frozen and half-crazed, through a screaming blizzard in the Siberian wilderness. Sure, I may have been stumbling up West Broadway in the face of a 70 mph wind gust, but it sure felt like Siberia.

Yes, I am old enough to have lived through the Blizzard of ’78, old enough to have witnessed that same front-end loader lift up a neighbor’s Volkswagen and dump it upside down into a huge mountain of snow.

What I don’t remember is being warned three days in advance that a hurricane wrapped in a blizzard was about to paralyze the area and slow all life down to a crawl.

Anthony Athanas lost the riverboat lounge docked next to his Pier 4 restaurant when it sunk in the ’78 storm. No need to worry about this storm incurring such wrath, because the restaurant is eventually going to be torn down.

If we’re all able to go back to work on Monday, rather than spending a week walking to the stores and saying “Hi” to each other, then I doubt the Blizzard of ’13 will be remembered in the same way 35 years from now.

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Post by Outside on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:18 am

tardust wrote:Wow in that same stretch he also had 4 assists. Looks to me like someone playing in the flow of the game, sharing the ball, scoring when the opportunity is there. JMO.
It's not a huge deal, but just to clarify, all I was commenting about when I referred to Pierce going into hero-ball mode was that one brief stretch in the third quarter. For the vast majority of the game, he played excellent team ball, and I did point out that he had several assists during that same third quarter . In no way was I implying that Pierce had a hero-ball game overall or that he had anywhere near as many isolation opportunities as Kobe.

My original comment was just a brief mention -- one sentence -- in a post that was consistently effuse in its praise for the Celtics. All I was doing was commenting about that one brief stretch and that it was noticeable in its contrast to the otherwise consistent team offense. Sam took exception to my characterization, so I broke down the third quarter to explain what I was talking about.

Pierce didn't play a hero-ball game. He just played that way for a brief time -- three minutes in the third quarter -- and was exceptionally effective at it, crushing any hope for a Laker comeback. He was otherwise the paragon of unselfish play with crisp passing leading to excellent shots. Put it on a DVD and give it to coaches everywhere as the model of how to play the game.

I just noticed that one stretch and how it differed from how they played on offense the other 45 minutes. The fact that he had assists before and after that three-minute stretch doesn't alter my perception of how he played in those three minutes.

I'm sorry that this wound up putting too much emphasis on a few trips up the court during the course of such a remarkable game. Overall, I'd give Pierce an A grade for the game, and I'm sorry that my mention of that brief part of the game is now somehow detracting from what was one of the most stellar exhibitions of team play I've seen in a while. I hope we can leave it at that.

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Post by cowens/oldschool on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:39 am

Pierce is a 10 time all star, former Finals MVP, we've all seen him get into a zone and carry this team, seen this for years. When Pierce is in that zone he can score on anybody, just like Larry Bird could. When Pierce is on like he was I want him to take over and apply the dagger and as tardust pointed out he also had 4 assists during that stretch. I'll gladly take this performance anytime, vintage Pierce is great to watch.

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Post by gyso on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:49 am

One byproduct from the win last night is that we are now in 7th place in the Eastern Conference. We passed Milwaukee (by 1 game in the win column), which have lost 4 out of their last 5 games.

Next in line is Atlanta in 6th place, who is 1.5 games ahead of us. Atlanta has lost 3 out of their last 5 games, so they are also not trending so well at this time.

Brooklyn and Chicago (tied for 4th and 5th) are 3 games ahead of us.

Lets keep the winning streak going!!

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Post by bobheckler on Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:40 pm

"Beat LA" doesn't adequately describe what we saw last night. "Annihilate LA" might be closer. I thought we were in trouble when KG picked up two quick fouls and sat the rest of the quarter and then Collins came in and got in foul trouble quickly too. We might have been if they had Gasol. Without Gasol and Hill they're too thin and small up front. The Lakers looked like "Kobe and a couple of guys" out there, nothing that resembled a team. There was a tweet from Laker great James Worthy sometime in the 3rd or 4th quarter, in which he said it was like the Boston Celtics were playing against the Washington Generals. Ouch!

I watched this game from a bar stool. When the Celts went from 15 up to 26 up in 2 minutes or so I almost fell off it. I got so excited I bought a round for the house (the place was mostly empty, I'm not that stupid). It wasn't just because that cracked the game wide open, it was because that's the type of offensive blitz we've been looking for all year.

1. Steve Nash was brought in to run a coherent half court team offense. He wasn't brought in to run an uptempo offense (if he was then Buss Jr. is even dumber than I think he is and I think he's an idiot) or to take a lot of the scoring load off of Kobe and certainly not to play defense. He signed to be a floor general. He didn't do that last night, that's for sure. The Lakers had 16 assists, total, on 36 fgm for only 44% . He still has the killer crossover, but he doesn't have the quickness to take advantage of it anymore. He didn't run an offense unless you call giving it to Kobe "running an offense". As Cowens said, it's a shame, he was such a great player. Now, D-Fish is looking like an upgrade.

2. Congratulations, KG. He didn't score or rebound like he did the night before but he was solid. 4 assists. As pointed out above, he has almost 5200 assists, career. That's 4.0apg career. For a big. Consider all the greats who have played his position and your jaw just has to drop when you realize he is the only one in that most elite club that requires delivering in so many categories. He says he bleeds green, he dies green. Thank God he has a no-trade clause. Anybody who believes that as intensely and sincerely as he does needs to be in green. Forever. There's something so right about KG's #5 hanging right next to #6. They're practically father and son off the court anyway.

3. What Kobe wants Kobe gets. Man, he was hitting shots over some very good defense being thrown at him by Lee and Green. A couple of "you gotta be shitting me" shots. I've gotten down on him for turning into KoME, but he had no other choice last night. Nash ceded his job and nobody else was working hard. Another Horatius at the Bridge (that's a compliment, TJ) night for Kobe Bryant. It was nice to see him joke with KG and have KG rub his head too. Sure, we want to see them competitive, but it's nice to see them have the proper respect for each other too. If there was a bright spot in this game for Laker fans it's that D'Antoni wisely pulled Kobe after only 30 minutes.

4. Jeff Green did his poor-man's James Worthy imitation last night. Antawn Jamison cannot handle Jeff Green. In fact, there really isn't anybody on the Lakers who can. TAFKARA might, in the halfcourt only, but then who stops Pierce? Emblematic of the athletic difference between the two was the out-of-nowhere block by Green on Jamison. The Lakers defense wasn't working last night and one-on-one Jamison was doomed. Green also played very good D on Kobe. Not that it mattered much, when Kobe's in the zone he's in the zone, but his focus and effort was there and that carries forward into other games.

5. Celtics bench? 46 points. Lakers bench? 40 points. That doesn't say anything about the superior defense played by the Celtic bench though. Green, JET, Wilcox even Barbosa. Of the Lakers bench players that played before the early onset of garbage time, only Jodie Meeks made any effort on the D side. Blake was, of course, Blake, which is to say the worst guard in the league.

6. Melo begins with "M", just like Maine. Perfect. I mean, for Pete's Sake, Robert Sacre made him look bad and Sacre's a former D-leaguer himself and current Laker human victory (or concession) cigar. Who was that smaller Laker player who came from behind Melo to wrestle that rebound away from him? His rotations are so weak, so weak. I'm sorry, we need a big but Melo isn't him, not this year and maybe not next either. And that wild hook shot? He got eaten up, and that was garbage time.

7. We shot 53%. Considering the Lakers are not a great defensive team we should expect that, but we had 22 fast break points and 58 points in the paint. We pretty much did whatever we wanted to do. The Lakers shot 41% and had only 4 fast break points. Two of them were probably Meek's excellent steal off of a KG pass. What this means is that all of LA's points came the hard way. The Lakers fell back on defense after almost every shot, going one-and-done a lot and we still had 22 fast break points.

8. When was the last time we had more offensive rebounds than our opponent? Boy, do they ever miss Gasol and Hill. Buss is going to have to add a big. We're down Darko (we hardly knew ye) and Sully and we need another. Their need is even more glaring than ours, especially if there is something chronically wrong with Howard's shoulder.

The Lakers have been playing much better over the past week or two. They were 6-1 with 3 straight road wins coming into last night. And then this happens. So, if you're Laker management, do you look at this game last night and say "we need change because we are beating the Detroits and Clevelands but can't beat a good but not great playoff team like the Celtics" (yes, I know they beat OKC at home before the road trip started and Brooklyn two days before but I still have my doubts) or do they say "6-2 and Charlotte coming up next? I'll take that!". Factor in the relatively new news that Gasol will be out until after the trading deadline and by the time he comes back the Lakers' playoff hopes might be dangling by a single strand of human hair.

Celtic fans may look back at this game as a milestone or turning point. We all know about the post-Rondo win streak but this particular game, I feel, was significant. Not because it was against the Lakers, with all due respect to TJ the Lakers aren't such a threat this year that beating them is humongous, but because we won both games of a back-to-back. We played a tough, close game in Toronto and then came back and obliterated our next opponent. It would have been very easy for us to come out slow, unfocused, unenergetic. It would have been very easy, and even natural, for us to lose our legs in the 2nd half. We came out for this game and played hard from the beginning and we played an uptempo game like we need to do for this roster to win. Consistency builds momentum and chemistry and we have been fairly consistent, overall, the past week or two.

Denver will be tough. They are athletic and uptempo too. Their record is 32-18, good for 4th in the WC, and are riding an 8 game winning streak but they are only 10-15 on the road. Welcome to Boston, where the fans don't like you.


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Post by Sam on Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:18 pm

Outside, I guess we just differ about the definition of "hero ball." I first heard the term mentioned by Doc, and he has used it multiple times. Virtually every time he's used it, he has been alluding to (1) something negative (2) something that disrupts rhythm, and (3) something prolonged and (4) something rather exclusionary. I don't believe Paul's brief outburst fit any of these definitions. I would define what Paul did as (1) positive, (2) totally in harmony with the team's rhythm and growing momentum, and (3) relatively brief, and (4) not at all exclusionary (as witness his four assists during that short span of time).

The team was gaining momentum and they rode a hot hand for a brief period of time. To varying degrees, something similar could be said of Green, KG and even JET in this game. And it's important to note that it's not as if Pierce suddenly decided to intrude on the game. Since the very beginning of the game—and particularly after KG had to exit early—Paul had been very hot.

Believe me, I guarantee that I'm normally the world's biggest hater of any basketball that deviates from the team game. Moreover, Paul Pierce could never be one of my favorite Celtics.

But I've come to realize that the Celtics, as currently constituted, cannot always be conventional. In fact, one of the team's hallmarks is a lack of predictability that clearly makes things very difficult for opponents to sustain an effective defense. They never know where the Celtics offense is coming from. Paul's brief was totally within that dimension without being out of control.

It's pretty simple. Paul felt it. Paul dealt it.

But having said all of that, I'm very happy that you raised this issue. Because, frankly, we're all learning, on the fly, what to make of this somewhat ad hoc team. In some way, up is down and down is up, and your perspective on this issue was perfectly appropriate and very thought-provoking. Thanks for the contribution.

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Post by Matty on Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:34 pm

there are in basketball are only two things sweeter than beating the lakers- winning a title, and winning a title by beating the lakers.. (sorry laker fans)

i had some things to attend to and had priorly (is that a word) made arrangments to insure the game was on t.v. at Hooters when i got there.

I walked in, sat down looking up on the screan and saw just by the body language something good was going on before i even knew what the score was... had Rondo made a meraculous recovery and joined in the game? Had clones of Bird, Parish and Mchale been made of them in their primes and they'd just walked through the doors wearing their jerseys and were ready to play? had Jesus made his return and was wearing his Kelly Greens?

No, Gino was practically jumping out of the jumbo tron ready to dance for us- against the lakers and in the middle of the third..

i dont care much about seeds at this point, at east in terms of who it will mean we must face first, although home court makes life a tad simplier. "To be the man ya gotta beat the man" The Man once said.

Woooo! right now, we're actauly playing at a leval where we can beat anyone, lets hope we are playing at this same leval mid april- mid june.

Melo has a looooooooong way to go, any way we can hire Bill Russel and Hakeem to mentor him? if he's willing to listen, i'm sure KG is already in his ear.

Bob, i agree, 5 belongs right next to 6. just seems natural.

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Post by bobheckler on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:08 pm

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4702136/bradleys-d-frustrates-nash-sparks-cs


Bradley's D frustrates Nash, sparks C's
February, 8, 2013 FEB 8 12:54 AM ET
By Chris Forsberg | ESPNBoston.com


BOSTON -- Steve Nash celebrated his 39th birthday on Thursday, but it was Avery Bradley who made him feel a little old.

Bradley spent time in the days leading up to Thursday's showdown with the Los Angeles Lakers watching game film of Nash. The 22-year-old guard was struck by how few opponents pressured the former two-time MVP, seemingly afraid to get shown up by his slick ballhandling.

With some encouragement from one of Nash's former teammates, Leandro Barbosa, Bradley made it his goal to make this a birthday to forget for Nash.

And he succeeded as part of Boston's 116-95 triumph over the Lakers at TD Garden.


Avery Bradley was largely successful in "trying to make everything as hard as possible" on Steve Nash, who posted just nine points and five assists.

"Nash is obviously one of the best point guards to ever play," said Bradley. "I just tried to make everything hard on him. He's not used to pressure. I was watching film on him and nobody pressured him. That was my main focus, trying to make everything as hard as possible. He's a great ball-handler, but I don't care. I care about getting stops, so I just go out and play as hard as I can."

Nash finished with a modest nine points and five assists over 27:44 and was minus-7 in plus/minus. He didn't turn the ball over, but Bradley was a constant pest and it left Nash willing to give up the ball rather than deal with Bradley more.

According to individual defensive data logged by Synergy Sports, Nash was 2-of-6 shooting for four points in possessions that finished against Bradley. Doc Rivers made it a point to single out Bradley's impact on the game.

"He just wore Steve Nash down," said Rivers. "He was killing us, Nash was, at the beginning [of the game]. But that relentless ball pressure, eventually Nash became a passer. And anyone would. That's just heart, and that's what Avery does. He's got the ability to just stay in there and defend, and he wants to."

Barbosa, Nash's backup in Phoenix, admitted he's rarely seen anyone do what Bradley did by picking Nash up full court and making him work whenever possible.

"Nash is a great player, I played with him many times, and I never saw somebody get up on him like Avery," said Barbosa. "I told Avery, 'Get up on him, don't let him play.' And he did a great job. I told some things [Nash] likes to do when somebody pressures him, and [Bradley] did a great job."

So how special is what Bradley does defensively?

"Very special. I don't think anyone in this league does what he does," said Barbosa. "He's very athletic and never gets tired."

Bradley was an underclassman in high school when Nash was winning consecutive MVP awards, but downplayed the idea of having to guard an NBA legend.

"I moved past that," said Bradley. "I obviously have respect for all those guys; I definitely have respect for everybody on that team. But once we cross those lines, I'm playing hard, trying to make everything hard on him."

And Bradley didn't stop with Nash. He got matched up with Kobe Bryant at times and was up to that challenge. Bryant did shake Bradley with a beautiful baseline spin move that forced Jason Collins to foul late in the first quarter, but Bradley would extract revenge.

On the final three head-to-head possessions against Bryant, Bradley forced a turnover and two missed 3-pointers. Late in the third quarter, Bradley caught Bryant delivering a lazy backcourt pass, picked it off, then went right at him under the hoop while muscling home a layup.

"I kind of baited him into that," admitted Bradley. "I tried to act like I wasn't going for it, then I got it. He was mad. He said something to me walking down the court."

Bradley didn't care. Maybe his most impressive attribute is how fearless he can be, even when going against superstars like Bryant and Nash.

Lucky for Bryant, his birthday doesn't come around until November. Chances are Bradley won't be invited to Nash's 40th bash.




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