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Post by willjr Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:30 pm

Drummond to Boston? Pistons Big Man's Tweets Fuel Speculation: http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/andre-drummond-tweets-fuel-speculation-of-trade-from-detroit-pistons-to-boston-celtics
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Post by sinus007 Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:29 pm

Hi,
I wonder what's the price?

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Post by willjr Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:28 pm

Drummond is on a 5 yr\127 mil deal, making 22.1 mil this year. He has a player option in 2020 and an 8% trade kicker. Amir and any combo of Jerebko, AB, Zeller, Young, Green, or Jackson would make a salary match (I think). No doubt SVG would want the Nets picks. I am really intrigued with Fultz, so I really hope we hold on to this years pick and the lottery Gods heed the wise counsel of Red and Sam and bless us with the No.1 pick.
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Post by 112288 Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:06 pm

CANNOT SHOOT FREE THROWS.

HACK A DRUMMOND!

OR

BEAT THE DRUM..MAN

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Post by Matty Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:23 pm

willjr wrote:Drummond is on a 5 yr\127 mil deal, making 22.1 mil this year. He has a player option in 2020 and an 8% trade kicker. Amir and any combo of Jerebko, AB, Zeller, Young, Green, or Jackson would make a salary match (I think). No doubt SVG would want the Nets picks. I am really intrigued with Fultz, so I really hope we hold on to this years pick and the lottery Gods heed the wise counsel of Red and Sam and bless us with the No.1 pick.

trade checker says amir and zeller get it done.

we got between 5-7 second rounders (depending on how things go) and 3 of our firsts and one each of the grizzlies and clippers between now and 2020. I think we have the goods to get a deal done leaving them Brooklyn picks alone.



we'd be short on Bigs following this deal, but K.O. and Jordan would be getting a lot more playing time as would Jerebko.

I sort of like this deal.

Drummond/ Olynyk/ ???
Horford/ Olynyk/ Jerebko /Jrdan
Crowder/ Jerebko/Brown/ Young
Bradley/ Brown/Smart/ Green
Thomas/ Smart/ Rozier/ Jackson
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Post by willjr Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:26 pm

I can't see Danny crippling his cap for Drummond. While he is a premier rebounder and rim protector he is a terrible ft shooter and while effective in PnR, he's not a threat in a pick and pop role, which we know Brad loves in his bigs.

Edit: the thought of AH or KO in the PnP with IT and the option of Drummond and IT running PnR would be fun to see. Brad would no doubt have some great schemes drawn up.
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Post by worcester Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:35 pm

Why is it these lousy free throw shooters don't take Rick Barry's advice and throw granny style? It would for sure up their %. Even Rick's son does it at U Florida now.
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Post by willjr Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:12 pm

Jimmy Butler back in play?
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-jimmy-butler-to-celtics-getting-real-crowder-the-sticking-point
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Post by kdp59 Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:59 pm

willjr wrote:Jimmy Butler back in play?
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-jimmy-butler-to-celtics-getting-real-crowder-the-sticking-point


Bradley, Jaylen and the Nets pick in 2018 and another non nets first (or the Rights to Yabusele)would be my best offer.
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Post by willjr Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:13 pm

kdp59 wrote:
willjr wrote:Jimmy Butler back in play?
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-jimmy-butler-to-celtics-getting-real-crowder-the-sticking-point


Bradley, Jaylen and the Nets pick in 2018  and another non nets first  (or the Rights to Yabusele)would be my  best offer.

Since my belief is that even with Butler we don't beat GS and probably don't beat Clev, I would rather keep Brown over Crowder. Brown's ceiling is much higher than Crowder's and if we are 1-3 years away from a true title shot (GS window) then Brown should/will be hitting his prime and giving us everything Jae does plus more. Regardless of that, I AM NOT in favor of moving this years Nets pick for any of the players rumored to be on the block.
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Post by cowens/oldschool Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:05 pm

Matty wrote:
willjr wrote:Drummond is on a 5 yr\127 mil deal, making 22.1 mil this year. He has a player option in 2020 and an 8% trade kicker. Amir and any combo of Jerebko, AB, Zeller, Young, Green, or Jackson would make a salary match (I think). No doubt SVG would want the Nets picks. I am really intrigued with Fultz, so I really hope we hold on to this years pick and the lottery Gods heed the wise counsel of Red and Sam and bless us with the No.1 pick.

trade checker says amir and zeller get it done.

we got between 5-7 second rounders (depending on how things go) and 3 of our firsts and one each of the grizzlies and clippers between now and 2020. I think we have the goods to get a deal done leaving them Brooklyn picks alone.



 we'd be short on Bigs following this deal, but K.O. and Jordan would be getting a lot more playing time as would Jerebko.

I sort of like this deal.

 Drummond/  Olynyk/  ???
 Horford/  Olynyk/ Jerebko /Jrdan
 Crowder/ Jerebko/Brown/ Young
 Bradley/ Brown/Smart/ Green
 Thomas/ Smart/ Rozier/ Jackson


who is Jordan?

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Post by wideclyde Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:47 pm

Cowens,

I believe that he may be referring to Jordan Mickey.

Not sure that Mickey will be on our roster next year as he has faded as a potential roster guy
in my eyes.

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Post by cowens/oldschool Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:54 pm

Thanks wide forgot about him.

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Post by bobheckler Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:04 pm

Another name in the rumor mill C5SyNp5XAAEd_j7


The part you cannot see is Detroit getting Jonas, Kelly, Rozier and Young.  At least one, if not both, Nets picks would be gone too.

Our starting team would be Horford, Drummond, George, Butler and IT.


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Post by wideclyde Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:53 pm

With or without the Nets picks, this is just toooooooo crazy even if the salaries all work due to the fact that the Cs would be trading away over one half of their current roster with only 25 games left in the season.

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Post by tjmakz Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:13 pm

bobheckler wrote:Another name in the rumor mill C5SyNp5XAAEd_j7


The part you cannot see is Detroit getting Jonas, Kelly, Rozier and Young.  At least one, if not both, Nets picks would be gone too.

Our starting team would be Horford, Drummond, George, Butler and IT.


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Bob,

I hope you didn't spend too much time thinking of this one.
:-)
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Post by bobheckler Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:33 pm

tjmakz wrote:
bobheckler wrote:Another name in the rumor mill C5SyNp5XAAEd_j7


The part you cannot see is Detroit getting Jonas, Kelly, Rozier and Young.  At least one, if not both, Nets picks would be gone too.

Our starting team would be Horford, Drummond, George, Butler and IT.


bob


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Bob,

I hope you didn't spend too much time thinking of this one.
:-)


TJ,

To be honest it is someone else's brainchild. I just saw it and brought it here.

As far as "nuts" goes I'd make this trade. The "nuts" part of this would be thinking that it actually might happen and not that it would be bad.


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Post by sinus007 Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:47 pm

Bobh,
It's a great trade but don't Celtics have to have at least 12 players on the roster. Also, the bench would be what - Smart Green Brown Mickey and Jackson....

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Post by gyso Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:55 pm

sinus007 wrote:Bobh,
It's a great trade but don't Celtics have to have at least 12 players on the roster. Also, the bench would be what - Smart Green Brown Mickey and Jackson....

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Nader gets a promotion from the DLeague?
Yabusele comes over after the CLeague playoffs are over?

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Post by bobheckler Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:06 pm

gyso wrote:
sinus007 wrote:Bobh,
It's a great trade but don't Celtics have to have at least 12 players on the roster. Also, the bench would be what - Smart Green Brown Mickey and Jackson....

AK

Nader gets a promotion from the DLeague?
Yabusele comes over after the CLeague playoffs are over?


Exactly!  We sign fillers, promote Nader and/or veteran rentals for the rest of this year, which we weren't plannimg on winning anyway, and we have an amazing starting 5 under contract with none of their contracts expiring this year.

Won't happen but that is why I'd do it.


Bob


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Post by dboss Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:40 pm

People get a grip The Celtics are not going to put out $47,000,000 per year + on their center position, AH and AD. They are not likely to put up that type of money on a Center and Power forward Combo either.

And it is unlikely that Detroit would take back AH in that deal. If they would I am all in.

The game has changed in front of our eyes.

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Post by worcester Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:50 pm

Danny will be sitting tight for the next 48 hours. He won't part with a Nets pick. End of story.
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Post by 112288 Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:30 pm

NO NO NO NO!

BUTLER IS NO CROWDER ON DEFENSE, NOR A GOOD 3'PT SHOOTER - CAREER 32%.  

NOW PAUL GEORGE - NOT CROWDER ON DEFENSE BUT A 6'9" IS TALLER THEN BOTH BUTLER AND CROWDER - ALSO A BETTER SHOOTER OF 3 PTERS THEN BUTLER AND CROWDER - CAREER 36.6% - AND EQUAL +/- TO BUTLER IN SCORING.

DRUMMOND IS A ONE DIMENSIONAL PLAYER WHO CANNOT HIT FREE THROWS AND CANNOT POP FROM THE OUTSIDE.


ALL IN ALL BESIDES WHAT I STATED - IT GIVES DANNY LESS ROOM TO OPERATE THIS SUMMER WITH THE SALARY CAP!

TIME TO DEAL IS SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER!

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P.S.

NO NET PICK FOR THIS YEAR OR NEXT AS THE NETS WILL BE TERRIBLE FOR THE NEXT 2 YEARS AND NO BROWN!
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Post by worcester Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:22 pm

You get my vote 112288...and remember as good as PG is, he plans to be a Laker.
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Post by dboss Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:47 pm

Lakers are very interested in PG.

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