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Post by kdp59 Fri May 17, 2019 9:04 am

I used draftnet, draft room and BB insiders most recent 2 round mock drafts and combined/averaged them for this list.

to make this list a player must be on at least TWO of the mocks

this is NOT a mock draft, just a combined ranking of there they are mocked at this point in time:

Rank---Pos------Player------------Hgt--------School
1-----PF-----Zion Williamson-----6-6---------Duke
2-----PG-------Ja Morant---------6-3--------Murray St
3-----SG------R J Barrett---------6-6--------Duke
4-----SG------Jarrett Culver------6-7--------Texas Tech
5-----PG------Koby White---------6-5-------North Carolina
6-----PG------Darius Garland-----6-3-------Vanderbilt
7-----SF------DeAndre Hunter----6-8-------Virginia
8-----C--------Jaxon Hayes-------6-11-------Texas
9-----SF------Cameron Reddish---6-7-------Duke
10----PF-----Sekou Doumbouya--6-9--------Int
11----C---------Bol Bol------------7-2--------Oregon
12----PF------Rui Hachimura------6-8-------Gonzaga
13---SF/SG-----KZ Okpala--------6-8-------Stanford
14----SF-------Nassir Little-------6-6--------N. Carolina
15----SG----Nickeil Alexander-Walker---6-5---Virginia Tech
16----SG------Keldon Johnson----6-6--------Kentucky
17----C-------Bruno Fernando-----6-10------Maryland
18----SG-----Romeo Langford-----6-6--------Indiana
19----C-------Daniel Gafford------6-10-------Arkansas
20----SG------Tyler Herro----------6-6--------Kentucky
21----C-------Goga Bitadze--------6-11--------Int
22----PF------Brandon Clarke------6-8--------Gonzaga
23----SF------Cam Johnson--------6-8--------North Carolina
24----PF/C----Mfiondu Kabengele---6-10-----Florida St
25----PF/C----Charles Bassey------6-10------W. Kentucky
26----SF-------Louis King-----------6-8-------Oregon
27----SG------Kevin Porter Jr-------6-5-------USC
28----SF------MatisseThybulle------6-6-------Washington
29----PG-------Ty Jerome-----------6-5-------Virginia
30----C--------Nazreon Reid--------6-10------LSU

31----PF------Grant Williams-------6-7-------Tennessee
32----PF------P J Washington------6-8--------Kentucky
33----SF------Admiral Schofield----6-5-------Tennessee
34----PF------Jalen McDaniels------6-10------San Diego St
35----SG------Talen Horton-Tucker---6-4------Iowa St
36----PG------Carsen Edwards------6-0-------Purdue
37----SF------Dylan Windler--------6-8-------Belmont
38----SF-------Kris Wilkes----------6-8--------UCLA
39----SG------Luguentz Dort-------6-4--------Arizona St
40----PG-------Jaylen Nowell-------6-4--------Washington
41----PF-------Chuma Okeke-------6-8--------Auburn
42----PF-------Luka Samanic-------6-10-------Int
43----PG-------Kyle Guy------------6-2--------Virginia
44----PG-------Ky Bowman---------6-1--------Boston College
45----SF/PF----Eric Paschall--------6-7--------Villianova
46-----C--------Tacko Fall-----------7-6--------UCF
47----SF--------Jaylen Hoard-------6-8--------Wake Forest
48----PF--------Darius Bazley-------6-9
49----PF--------Robert Franks------6-7--------Washington St
50----SG-------Adam Mokoka-------6-5-------Int
51----SF-------Deividas Sirvydis----6-8-------Int
52----PG--------Jalen Lecque-------6-4--------NC St
53----SF--------Brian Bowen--------6-7
54-----C--------Jontay Porter-------6-11-------Missouri
55-----SF---------Miye Oni----------6-6--------Yale
56----PG-------Tremont Waters----5-10-------LSU
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Post by kdp59 Thu May 23, 2019 4:17 pm

dboss

he's at #24 in this combined ranking.

his mom is Mutombo's sister I think.
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Post by kdp59 Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:42 am

my most recent with the updated Mocks from Draft net and draft room on 6/16.

Rank--Pos-------Player
1----PF-----Zion Williamson
2----PG-----Ja Morant
3----SG-----R J Barrett
4----PG-----Darius Garland
5----SG-----Jarrett Culver
6----PG-----Koby White
7----SF-----DeAndre Hunter
8----PF-----Sekou Doumbouya
9----SF-----Cameron Reddish
10---C------Jaxon Hayes
11---C-----Goga Bitadze
12---PF----Rui Hachimura
13---SG----Tyler Herro
14---SF----Nassir Little
15---SG---Nickeil Alexander-Walker
16---PF----P J Washington
17--PF/C---Mfiondu Kabengele
18---SG----Keldon Johnson
19---PF----Brandon Clarke
20---C-----Bol Bol
21---SG---Kevin Porter Jr
22---SG---Romeo Langford
23---PF----Nicolas Claxton
24----C----Bruno Fernando
25---SF----KZ Okpala
26---SF----Cam Johnson
27---SF----MatisseThybulle
28---SF----Isaiah Roby
29---PG----Ty Jerome
30---PF----Chuma Okeke

31---SF----Dylan Windler
32---PF----Luka Samanic
33--SF/PF---Eric Paschall
34---C-----Daniel Gafford
35---PF----Grant Williams
36---PF----Darius Bazley
37---C-----Nazreon Reid
38---PG---Carsen Edwards
39---SG---Talen Horton-Tucker
40---SG---Luguentz Dort
41---SF---Admiral Schofield
42---SF----Louis King
43---PG----Ky Bowman
44---C-----Tacko Fall
45---C-----Jontay Porter
46---PF----Jalen McDaniels
47---SG---DaQuan Jeffries
48---SF----Deividas Sirvydis
49---PG----Jalen Lecque
50---SG----Terence Davis
51---SG----Terance Mann
52---SF----Miye Oni
53---SF----Jaylen Hoard
54---PG----Joshua Obiesie
55---PG----Jaylen Nowell
56----C-----Moses Brown
57---SG----Adam Mokoka
58---SF----Kris Wilkes
59---PG----Tremont Waters
60---SG---Marcos Louzada Silva
61---PF----Alen Smailagic
62---SG----Jordan Bone
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Post by wideclyde Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:50 am

kdp,

Nice work and thanks.

I have often wondered, however, how a guy could drop or raise his ranking/rating so much in only a month's time when he has not even played a second in any evaluation possible situation?

Example: Bol Bol (by the way, great originality by his parents) from 11 to 20, and he is supposedly recovering from his foot issues of last season.

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Post by KyleCleric Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:12 am

Often it’s the public catching up to information known by teams and getting a better understanding of how teams view players.

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Post by NYCelt Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:14 am

wideclyde wrote:kdp,

Nice work and thanks.

I have often wondered, however, how a guy could drop or raise his ranking/rating so much in only a month's time when he has not even played a second in any evaluation possible situation?

Example: Bol Bol (by the way, great originality by his parents) from 11 to 20, and he is supposedly recovering from his foot issues of last season.

Wide,

With you on this one. I'm amused every year by the rise and fall of players after their season ends. Funnier still is the big change after what amount to solo workouts and interviews.

Some rise up the board, purely on performance in the big tourney, after doing little during the season. Some even rise on tourney results, even after not being on the radar in conference tourneys.

If the polls had anything to do with thinking from actual NBA execs, they would look quite different.

Either way, I agree there is some nice annual work tracking and compiling this by kdp.

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Post by kdp59 Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:41 am

always interesting to see the movement for sure each year.

I think you guys hit on it, individual workouts for teams and interviews along with the combine all work to move players some.

but remember this is ONLY MOCK DRAFTS....not a ranking of players overall.

I used to do one of those also, but found them to be somewhat of lesser value than using mock drafts.

I assume hoopshype will update their aggregate mocks before draft day also.

Kinda the same thing as this except they use more mocks.

I have a hard time finding a third two round mock as it is myself.
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Post by dboss Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:42 am

The big unknow that is not reflected in the draft rankings is team needs given where they are picking. For example, the PG Darius Garland is sitting at # 4 and NOLA has that pick but NOLA does not need a PG so he may not be picked there unless some team wants him and trades up to 4 specifically to draft him. Or a team (NOLA)could use the 4th pick and take someone else like Culver.

Team needs always impacts where a player is drafted. That opens the door for a team to be able to draft a guy that may be rated above their draft position.
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Post by kdp59 Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:49 am

dboss wrote:The big unknow that is not reflected in the draft rankings is team needs given where they are picking.  For example, the PG Darius Garland is sitting at # 4 and NOLA has that pick but NOLA does not need a PG so he may not be picked there unless some team wants him and trades up to 4 specifically to draft him.  Or a team (NOLA)could use the 4th pick and take someone else like Culver.

Team needs always impacts where a player is drafted.  That opens the door for a team to be able to draft a guy that may be rated above their draft position.

exactly!!

this is NOT a mock draft at all, just an average of where three mocks select players.

more or less a gauge of what range those mocks feel players should fall, is the way I look at this.

BTW, Jrue Holiday could play SG or PG like he did with Rondo a couple years ago. So I wouldn't be surprised if they took Garland at #4 or TRADED that pick!
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Post by KyleCleric Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:53 am

There are also the impacts of supposed promises to players and them shutting down workouts.

Samanic shutting down after Day 1 of the combine. Supposedly, White by the Bulls, Hachimura by the Wolves, Claxton by the Hawks, Thybulle by the 76ers

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Post by kdp59 Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:19 am

final combined mock rankings:

Draftnet, Draft room and BB Insiders two rounds mock all updated on 6/18 or 6/19. Player must be on at least two mocks and then averaged where they are selected.


Rank-Pos------Player
1-----PF-----Zion Williamson
2-----PG-----Ja Morant
3-----SG-----R J Barrett
4-----PG-----Darius Garland
5-----SG-----Jarrett Culver
6-----PG-----Koby White
7-----SF-----DeAndre Hunter
8-----PF-----Sekou Doumbouya
9-----SF-----Cameron Reddish
10----C------Jaxon Hayes
11----PF-----Rui Hachimura
12----C------Goga Bitadze
13----SF-----Nassir Little
14----SG-----Tyler Herro
15----SG-----Keldon Johnson
16----C-------Bol Bol
17----PF------P J Washington
18----SG-----Nickeil Alexander-Walker
19----PF------Brandon Clarke
20----PF/C----Mfiondu Kabengele
21----SG------Romeo Langford
22----SG------Kevin Porter Jr
23----SF-------MatisseThybulle
24----C--------Bruno Fernando
25----SF-------KZ Okpala
26----SF-------Cam Johnson
27----SF-------Isaiah Roby
28----PF-------Nicolas Claxton
29----G--------Ty Jerome
30----PF-------Luka Samanic

31----PF-------Darius Bazley
32---SF/PF----Eric Paschall
33----PF------Grant Williams
34----SF------Dylan Windler
35-----C------Daniel Gafford
36----PG------Carsen Edwards
37----SF------Admiral Schofield
38----SF-------Louis King
39----SG------Talen Horton-Tucker
40----SG------Luguentz Dort
41----PF------Chuma Okeke
42-----C-------Nazreon Reid
43----PG------Jalen Lecque
44-----SF-----Jaylen Hoard
45-----PG-----Ky Bowman
46-----SF----Deividas Sirvydis
47-----C------Tacko Fall
48-----C------Jontay Porter
49-----PF-----Jalen McDaniels
50-----SG----DaQuan Jeffries
51-----SG----Terance Mann
52-----PG-----Tremont Waters
53-----SG-----Terence Davis
54-----PG-----Joshua Obiesie
55-----PG-----Jaylen Nowell
56-----SF------Kris Wilkes
57-----PF------Dewan Hernandez
58-----SG------Adam Mokoka
59-----SG------Jordan Bone
60-----PG------Jaylen Hands




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Post by kdp59 Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:05 am

my picks if we keep all picks:

14. Bol-if he is there, if not Bitadze should be.
20. Kabengele or Fernando
22. Porter or Jerome

gotta go bigs and roll the dice at this point.
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