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Jayson Tatum is lifting the Celtics’ offense to new heights: Five things we learned from Boston’s win over Raptors



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Boston Celtics forward Jayson Tatum, right, is fouled by Toronto Raptors center Aron Baynes on a drive to the basket during the second half of an NBA basketball game, Thursday, March 4, 2021, in Boston. (AP Photo/Charles Krupa)AP



By Brian Robb | brobb@masslive.com



With their fourth straight win over the Toronto Raptors on Thursday night, the Boston Celtics climbed out of the bottom half of the Eastern Conference all the way up to the fourth seed in the East during the seven days leading up to the All-Star Break.

Thursday’s win clinched the season series for the Celtics over Toronto, something that could come in handy down the line amid a tight East playoff race beneath the top three seeds.

A closer look at five things we learned from Boston’s win:

The Celtics offense is reaching new heights during the team’s winning streak: It’s been a rollercoaster ride for the Celtics during the first half of the season but they ended that trip on a high note Thursday night when it comes to their scoring attack. Boston shot a season-best 60.8 percent from the field with eight different players scoring in double figures against an undermanned Raptors squad in the victory. That efficient offense was a continuous trend in the past week of wins as the team’s offense during the team’s four-game winning streak ranked third overall in the NBA, posting over 120 points per 100 possessions.

“I think we’re learning and improving as the season goes on,” said Jaylen Brown. “We’ve made improvements in different categories, and that’s what it’s about. This is a different team than it was last year. We recognize that, and we understand what it takes to make winning plays. It’s not about scoring 30 points a game, it’s about playing the game the right way, trying to find ways to win. That’s the most important.”

Offense-first is not the way Brad Stevens teams have traditionally won but it looks like that edge in firepower will be key for the Celtics going forward this season against teams like Toronto. The Celtics have averaged 126 points per game against them in their three wins so far this year. With the team getting back some reinforcements in firepower after the All-Star Break in Marcus Smart and Romeo Langford, the offensive upside could be even greater.

Jayson Tatum is still working his way back to full strength: The All-Star forward played one of his best all-around games of the season against Toronto, posting team-highs in points (27), rebounds (12) and plus/minus (+20) to ensure Boston finished the first half on a winning note. Tatum has struggled with consistency since battling COVID-19 and he revealed that he’s still not back at full strength yet more than a month after returning to the floor.

“I’m not sure about back to normal,” he said. “I for sure feel better than did the first game. It’s a long process. I’ve talked to guys and they said it took months for them to kind of catch their breath, get their wind back and I’m kind of on the same, you know, track with that. I for sure feel better. I don’t necessarily feel the same as before I got it when I was playing I definitely know there’s a difference, but I feel pretty good.”

Kemba Walker’s leadership was integral in getting the team back on track: The point guard had a quiet night overall against the Raptors, posting just 15 points and six assists over his 34 minutes. However, he did draw a pivotal charge in the final two months of the fourth quarter to help seal the win. After the game, he was singled out for his leadership in ensuring Boston’s roster stayed united and focused in the wake of an ugly February stretch that saw the team lose 11 of 18 games at one point.

“I think that you have times where you can look at people and know that we’re going to be ready – and we may not win, but we’re going to be ready,” Stevens explained. “And after the game in Atlanta, when you looked in everybody’s eyes, like, we talked about these next four games are important and you knew we were going to be ready.

“And I think that is a sign of a team that’s going to stay together. And I think it stems from, you know, our best players embraced that. I’ve heard Kemba say it multiple times this week: ‘Nobody’s going on break until we go on break.’ And I thought that that was really important. So you learn a lot about yourself in those moments.”

Grant Williams also commended Walker’s impact on the locker room.

“A tremendous leader, one of the best people I’ve ever met,” he said. “He’s getting back to the form that he is, and you guys are seeing that. He was dealing with that knee last year and even parts of this season, I feel like he was just getting back into pace. So now that he’s performing and doing his thing, we’re all happy for him. And as a leader, he’s been very communicative, not just for me being in and out of the rotation, just telling me to keep my head up and stay engaged, stay ready. A time will come and then same with other guys. He has been there consulting for other guys.”

Brad Stevens isn’t surprised with where the team is at: From an 8-3 start to a 7-14 stretch, the Celtics have been all over the map from a win-loss standpoint in their opening 36 games of the regular season. However, Tuesday’s win put them in sole possession of the fourth seed in the East despite an underwhelming 19-17 record. Brad Stevens had preached from training camp that this team had a long way to go to become elite and ultimately was not surprised with how they ended up at this point.

“I think ultimately, we’re not far away from where I thought we’d probably be,” Stevens explained. “Knowing Kemba would be out for as long as he was and then if you would have told me we’d have the injuries and health and safety stuff and everything else, this is about where I would hope or thought we would be after all of this.

“And the way that we got there was a little unique. I thought we had some really tough stretches and some games that were really good. But we know we can play a lot better, we know that we need to play a lot better.”

Daniel Theis got most of the night off for matchup purposes: A quick peek at the box score showed Daniel Theis had his lowest minutes total of the year (7), a concerning sign that he may have been dealing with an injury. However, with the Raptors opting to go with super small lineups for much of the night with their shorthanded roster, Stevens opted to roll with just Robert Williams and Tristan Thompson over Theis in the center rotation for the entire second half.

“Well I think anytime we can save Theis minutes, just because of the minutes he’s played the last two years, it’s a good thing,” Stevens said. “But tonight was just, they were impossible to play with two bigs. And if you even go back to our game at Toronto, or at Tampa, when we played, we were getting killed in the first half, and then we started small in the second. So, we knew that we would probably go to that at some point, and then you’re just playing your gut on who you think can be most impactful.

“I thought Tristan and Rob were both pretty good tonight, and so they gave us something. Theis is a huge part of us and we need him badly going forward, but tonight I thought those other two guys were good.”

The minutes juggle in the middle should only get tougher going forward for Stevens with Marcus Smart expected to return to the lineup shortly. At that point, Boston’s double big starting lineup may vanish against most opponents, creating an odd man out in the middle on most nights as Stevens tries to find the best path to winning.


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MY NOTE:  One more thing we learned from last night's game is that Jaylen Brown is dead on his feet.  I've never seen him, nor any other 24 year old athlete, be so dog-tired they could barely keep their feet underneath themselves.  Tatum had COVID, what's going on with Brown?  I'm not down on him, I love Jaylen, but wtf is going on with this fatigue?


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Post by dboss Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:22 pm

bob you must be drinking too much.  

"One more thing we learned from last night's game is that Jaylen Brown is dead on his feet.  I've never seen him, nor any other 24 year old athlete, be so dog-tired they could barely keep their feet underneath themselves."

I guess folks see different things which is good because I miss stuff all the time until it is pointed out to me.

Regarding Jaylen Brown he is not 100% and stated such in his post game.  He only scored 1 point in the first half.  He ended up scoring 21 points including scoring 9 straight points in the 3rd quarter after we fell behind in the game.  So he had a 20 point second half and also had 7 rebounds and 4 assists for the game. He also scored 11 points in the 4th QTR.  So 36 minutes including scoring 9 in the 3rd and 11 in the 4th.  Not bad for a guy who could barely keep his feet from underneath him.  Suspect
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Post by bobheckler Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:39 pm

Not worth its own thread, I think, but here's Cornbread interviewing Kevin McHale about what Kevin thinks about this 2021 Celtic team.

Kevin says they should make the extra pass, which is funny considering he was considered a black hole when he played.  LOL. He made another comment that is pure Jaylen Brown.

Only 2 minutes long.




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Post by cowens/oldschool Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:06 pm

dboss wrote:bob you must be drinking too much.  

"One more thing we learned from last night's game is that Jaylen Brown is dead on his feet.  I've never seen him, nor any other 24 year old athlete, be so dog-tired they could barely keep their feet underneath themselves."

I guess folks see different things which is good because I miss stuff all the time until it is pointed out to me.

Regarding Jaylen Brown he is not 100% and stated such in his post game.  He only scored 1 point in the first half.  He ended up scoring 21 points including scoring 9 straight points in the 3rd quarter after we fell behind in the game.  So he had a 20 point second half and also had 7 rebounds and 4 assists for the game. He also scored 11 points in the 4th QTR.  So 36 minutes including scoring 9 in the 3rd and 11 in the 4th.  Not bad for a guy who could barely keep his feet from underneath him.  Suspect


That first half was alarming and he has had other tired/exhausted stretches recently that I don’t remember ever seeing Bird or Pierce go thru at 24. I understand he is having knee issues and giving us everything he has, but wondering if training staff even knows what is going on, he shouldn’t be this tired? This training staff has had enough time to figure this out and get him right. Is he eating right? the schedule is grueling this year, but other older players have adapted enough to not look so exhausted as our young stud has looked. I think I’ve read that Jaylen is a vegetarian or has experimented with that diet and may not be full time vegan. Either way, protein has amino acids and is known to have benefits too, Micheal Jordan’s pre game meal was a steak and baked potato with spinach or broccoli.

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cowens/oldschool wrote:
dboss wrote:bob you must be drinking too much.  

"One more thing we learned from last night's game is that Jaylen Brown is dead on his feet.  I've never seen him, nor any other 24 year old athlete, be so dog-tired they could barely keep their feet underneath themselves."

I guess folks see different things which is good because I miss stuff all the time until it is pointed out to me.

Regarding Jaylen Brown he is not 100% and stated such in his post game.  He only scored 1 point in the first half.  He ended up scoring 21 points including scoring 9 straight points in the 3rd quarter after we fell behind in the game.  So he had a 20 point second half and also had 7 rebounds and 4 assists for the game. He also scored 11 points in the 4th QTR.  So 36 minutes including scoring 9 in the 3rd and 11 in the 4th.  Not bad for a guy who could barely keep his feet from underneath him.  Suspect


That first half was alarming and he has had other tired/exhausted stretches recently that I don’t remember ever seeing Bird or Pierce go thru at 24. I understand he is having knee issues and giving us everything he has, but wondering if training staff even knows what is going on, he shouldn’t be this tired? This training staff has had enough time to figure this out and get him right. Is he eating right? the schedule is grueling this year, but other older players have adapted enough to not look so exhausted as our young stud has looked. I think I’ve read that Jaylen is a vegetarian or has experimented with that diet and may not be full time vegan. Either way, protein has amino acids and is known to have benefits too, Micheal Jordan’s pre game meal was a steak and baked potato with spinach or broccoli.


Cow,

Jaylen is a vegetarian who has said he'd be vegan if it wasn't for ice cream.


Bob


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Post by cowens/oldschool Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:34 pm

bobheckler wrote:
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dboss wrote:bob you must be drinking too much.  

"One more thing we learned from last night's game is that Jaylen Brown is dead on his feet.  I've never seen him, nor any other 24 year old athlete, be so dog-tired they could barely keep their feet underneath themselves."

I guess folks see different things which is good because I miss stuff all the time until it is pointed out to me.

Regarding Jaylen Brown he is not 100% and stated such in his post game.  He only scored 1 point in the first half.  He ended up scoring 21 points including scoring 9 straight points in the 3rd quarter after we fell behind in the game.  So he had a 20 point second half and also had 7 rebounds and 4 assists for the game. He also scored 11 points in the 4th QTR.  So 36 minutes including scoring 9 in the 3rd and 11 in the 4th.  Not bad for a guy who could barely keep his feet from underneath him.  Suspect


That first half was alarming and he has had other tired/exhausted stretches recently that I don’t remember ever seeing Bird or Pierce go thru at 24. I understand he is having knee issues and giving us everything he has, but wondering if training staff even knows what is going on, he shouldn’t be this tired? This training staff has had enough time to figure this out and get him right. Is he eating right? the schedule is grueling this year, but other older players have adapted enough to not look so exhausted as our young stud has looked. I think I’ve read that Jaylen is a vegetarian or has experimented with that diet and may not be full time vegan. Either way, protein has amino acids and is known to have benefits too, Micheal Jordan’s pre game meal was a steak and baked potato with spinach or broccoli.


Cow,

Jaylen is a vegetarian who has said he'd be vegan if it wasn't for ice cream.


Bob


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There you go, he’s lacking animal protein, I understand there is also protein in legumes, but I’ve experimented with different diets myself, not to lose weight, just to feel good/healthy. I’m blood type O and protein is good for me. I know there are healing properties in protein that are good for you, whatever he’s eating is not strong enough to get him feeling energetic, healthy and right....

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Post by worcester Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:21 pm

The writer says Kemba "did draw a pivotal charge in the final two months of the fourth quarter."

To which my girlfriend responds, "That's how I feel about it."
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Post by worcester Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:29 pm

It is a simple matter to test Jaylen for anemia, and a simple fix.
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Post by cowens/oldschool Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:32 pm

bobheckler wrote:Not worth its own thread, I think, but here's Cornbread interviewing Kevin McHale about what Kevin thinks about this 2021 Celtic team.

Kevin says they should make the extra pass, which is funny considering he was considered a black hole when he played.  LOL.  He made another comment that is pure Jaylen Brown.

Only 2 minutes long.




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He should be hired as an consultant, everything he says is right, another voice besides Brad and a real authentic bleed green HoFer to have the young players be around could only be beneficial to the team....maybe get him and KG back in the organization.

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Post by cowens/oldschool Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:35 pm

worcester wrote:It is a simple matter to test Jaylen for anemia, and a simple fix.

Would hope so, the staff sure hasn’t fixed it yet, something is obviously very off. I’m his biggest fan, hate seeing him falling down so much....

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Post by cowens/oldschool Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:49 am

The longer Jaylen is in an exhausted looking funk, like he has for this stretch, the more it tells you the incompetence of this organization and the training staff.

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Post by NYCelt Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:02 am

As to the thoughts on Brown and nutrition...

When KG was with the team his pre game meal became a tradition for the entire team; a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Before each game the whole team would have one. Ray Allen had it after his pre-game chicken and rice meal.

Maybe Brown just needed a PB&J.

Also; Interesting McHale thinks they need the extra pass. Most commentary I've seen says they're over-passing and passing up shot opportunities. I agree that over the last two or three games, they've gone from shooting too early in the clock to over-doing the passing. Although he knows better than me, maybe Kevin was watching older video.
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Post by dboss Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:31 pm

Jaylen Brown has tendonitis in his knee.  He is less than 100%.  I have not seen less energy from him per say.  he has been in a funk as cow pointed out but that has mostly manifested itself on offense.  I think it is a combination of a couple of things.  Playing on a sore knee and a change in his usage rate.  So JB's usage rate .

Dec.  29.6 // Jan 30.8 //Feb 28.7 //Last 15 (28.2)// Last 10  (26.6)//Last 5 (24.5)

If you recall when asked about his great play a while ago he attributed it to his usage rate.  You would expect that his usage rate would go down because Kemba is back.  JB is running less of the offense from up top.  JT has also seen a decline in his usage but not as much as JB.  

JT - Dec 29.2// Jan 30.4//Feb 29.7//  Last 15 (28.4)// Last 10 (29.0) // Last 5 (25.3)

As player are in and out of games due to injuries the team has to find ways to adjust.  At the same time, you want your best 3 offensive players to touch the ball on most possessions.  

With Marcus scheduled to return after the ASG lineups are going to change.  He may not start right way but when he does we will change to a single big in the lineup.  Guys that are getting  BU minutes at PG may also see fewer minutes because Marcus will play at the point as well.

We will see what happens.
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Post by bobheckler Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:34 pm

worcester wrote:It is a simple matter to test Jaylen for anemia, and a simple fix.


worcester,

How about a test for amnesia for Jayson. He sometimes forgets he's got teammates. Any simple fixes for that?


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Post by bobheckler Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:38 pm

NYCelt wrote:As to the thoughts on Brown and nutrition...

When KG was with the team his pre game meal became a tradition for the entire team; a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Before each game the whole team would have one. Ray Allen had it after his pre-game chicken and rice meal.

Maybe Brown just needed a PB&J.

Also; Interesting McHale thinks they need the extra pass. Most commentary I've seen says they're over-passing and passing up shot opportunities. I agree that over the last two or three games, they've gone from shooting too early in the clock to over-doing the passing. Although he knows better than me, maybe Kevin was watching older video.


NYCelt,

Ray had a PB&J?! That sure doesn't sound like him, he's a complete nutrition freak. His last hamburger was when he was a 19 year old sophomore at UConn.


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bobheckler wrote:
NYCelt wrote:As to the thoughts on Brown and nutrition...

When KG was with the team his pre game meal became a tradition for the entire team; a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Before each game the whole team would have one. Ray Allen had it after his pre-game chicken and rice meal.

Maybe Brown just needed a PB&J.

Also; Interesting McHale thinks they need the extra pass. Most commentary I've seen says they're over-passing and passing up shot opportunities. I agree that over the last two or three games, they've gone from shooting too early in the clock to over-doing the passing. Although he knows better than me, maybe Kevin was watching older video.


NYCelt,

Ray had a PB&J?!  That sure doesn't sound like him, he's a complete nutrition freak.  His last hamburger was when he was a 19 year old sophomore at UConn.


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Yeah, you might recall KG being a freak about team bonding and tradition. I don't recall who picked it up first, but they all ended up doing it. PB is high in protein, so maybe not too hard a sell.
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Post by worcester Sat Mar 06, 2021 3:56 pm

I don't know about a test for memory, but I do know of a successful treatment for memory loss, especially with Alzheimer's: Choline. This is solid research:

APOE4 Alzheimer's Risk Could Be Abated by Common Dietary Supplement - Choline

https://www.clinicalomics.com/topics/patient-care/neurological-disorders/apoe4-alzheimers-risk-could-be-abated-by-common-dietary-supplement/?utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=Clinical+OMICs+Update&utm_content=01&utm_campaign=Clinical+OMICs+Update_20210304&oly_enc_id=3792G3368467J1X


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