Horford tests positive C19

Ugh. Well better now than in May.
https://www.celticsblog.com/2021/10/12/22723310/report-al-horford-tests-positive-for-covid-19-joins-jaylen-brown-in-quarantine-status

The fun begins. Here we go again. God help us, will this ever go away?

I have to wait until December to get the last shot, my first two were in May and June. My heart doctor today could not stress it enough with both my husband and myself. He will go up to the Veteran’s and get his shot and flu shot. I will just be careful until December.

I wonder if those who are choosing to be unprotected realize how valuable life is. I certainly do, with all I have gone through, I want to be around for a while. The value of life is something I wish all would think about. This is just MY opinion, life is fleeting

If it turns out that Horford has full Covid, it must mean that he was not vaccinated.

700,000+ dead in America, likely millions with 'long haul' issues and a player on a team not vaccinated??


This should not have happened. Horford or Celtics, or both at fault.

wideclyde wrote:If it turns out that Horford has full Covid, it must mean that he was not vaccinated.

700,000+ dead in America, likely millions with 'long haul' issues and a player on a team not vaccinated??


This should not have happened.  Horford or Celtics, or both at fault.

Though most breakthrough infections amongst the vaccinated are mild, some are more serious. Also, although most breakthroughs are presumed to be delta, some are not. So, we can't say for sure that Al wasn't vaccinated.

I was disappointed to read Bradley Beal's comments in the Washington Post.

“Oh, I am not vaccinated,” Beal said. “No, no.”
“Every player, every person in this world is going to make their own decision for themselves,” Beal said. “I would like an explanation to, you know, people with vaccines. Why are they still getting covid? If that’s something that we are supposed to highly be protected from, like it’s funny that it only reduces your chances of going to the hospital. It doesn’t eliminate anybody from getting covid, right? So is everybody in here vaxxed, I would assume? Right. So you all can still get covid, right?”

A reporter from NBC Sports Washington responded, “We’re less likely to die or go to the hospital,” echoing studies published this month by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. One such study found that people who were not fully vaccinated this spring and summer were more than 10 times more likely to be hospitalized and 11 times more likely to die of covid-19.

“Okay, but you can still get covid? Right,” Beal said. “And you can still pass it along with the vax, right? So I’m just asking the question.

There is a lack of logic there, I hope Beal reflects on his comments. A virus is always a mutating organism. Yes there are breakthrough cases and those are contagious. The roughly 90% protection from contracting the virus that vaccines confer, the similar percentage of milder cases that don't need hospitalization that vaccines provide make it a no brainer IMHO. Bradley, it DOES protect most people from getting Covid.

I am on my last day of a month vacation in Hawaii, where I lived for 38 years until 3 years ago, before I return to NH. I got my Pfizer booster here 10 days ago, the same day I got the stronger dosage geezer Flu shot, one in each arm. I am immunocompromised (CLL) as is my GF. Hawaiian Airlines strongly recommended vaccination when I departed BOS for Honolulu (nonstop). If you were unvaccinated or had no recent test your picture was taken before you went through TSA, your address in Hawaii noted, and you were required to observe 10 days of self quarantine on arrival. Every retail store here has hand sanitizer stations at their entrance and when I forgot about using one on a grocery visit, the employee at the entrance only offered a friendly smile when I retreated back out after I had passed him realizing I had forgot to sanitize. A gentle approach with aloha is a Hawaii tradition. I salute that.

Back to Beal's comments and Kyrie falls in here too: It's true these rich young men in the NBA are squeezed onto a microscope slide of a myopic, sensationalization prone press and media and they deserve some privacy. But it is everyone's responsibility to protect others from a horrible contagion. Respect your fellow humans even if you disagree with their views.

So, with the Irving decision by Brooklyn, is this putting other teams backs against the wall as far as allowing unvaccinated players continue to practice and play??? This is a time bomb waiting to blow up, and Kyrie is right there with his finger on the button. If one gets away with it, all should get away with it. If he sits, Richardson should sit

Bradley Beal was very cavalier with his statement and attitude. He really disappointed me.

CVS is giving walk in booster Jabs. Check you local CVS Pharmacy if there is one in your area.

Rosalie, I love your posts and I apologize to all of you for being such an infrequent contributor to this forum. My sincere thanks and appreciation go to to all of you who do post regularly with all your input, whether its technical points, astute analysis, or just random opinions and gut feelings that are shared here. I consume it all with gusto and I am enriched from it. Special thanks to Bob for your incredible daily contributions.

Let me tell you, back when we were very young (some of us older folks) polio was the disease we feared. My mother in law went to bed with her son one night and the next morning she could not walk. they both had polio. No ambulance would pick her up and take her to a hospital, finally, a friend in the neighborhood took her there with his station wagon. She spent months in the hospital, in an iron lung, came home and was exercised on her dining room table daily. She never walked again, She would hold on to walls, go up and down stairs on her butt, and raised 6 children, 5 boys.

This is no joke, 700,000 people are dead right now. I bet their families wished there was a drug for their loved ones before getting so sick that nothing would help. So Bradley. grow up

"Vaccines don't work and the world is flat"--------Bozo the clown. Getting my Pfizer booster on Friday. I had childhood asthma and am kind of attached to breathing freely. If they ever put a bounty on morons the population problem will be solved, something might be done to protect the environment, and we might get a handle on the pandemic. When I was a kid parents were more interested in the health of their children than their freedumbs. Sometimes conformity is a virtue---- not often, but sometimes.

dboss wrote:

Shamrock1000 wrote:

wideclyde wrote:If it turns out that Horford has full Covid, it must mean that he was not vaccinated.

700,000+ dead in America, likely millions with 'long haul' issues and a player on a team not vaccinated??


This should not have happened.  Horford or Celtics, or both at fault.

Though most breakthrough infections amongst the vaccinated are mild, some are more serious. Also, although most breakthroughs are presumed to be delta, some are not. So, we can't say for sure that Al wasn't vaccinated.

hi rock

I saw some CDC data that indicates 99% of all new cases are related to the delta variant.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions

The Celtics have been pretty tight lipped about who was not vaccinated.  We only have one confirmed player that acknowledged he was not vaccinated.  

It is hard sometimes to believe we are going through this pandemic.  

I see this covid virus as a cat and mouse game.  All the vaccines developed were based on the original sequencing of the virus.  When I got my booster shot they told me that Pfizer has a new version of the vaccine but it has to go through the approval process.

Yes, RNA viruses mutate more quickly, so it can be a bit of a cat and mouse game. Most Covid tests do not actually distinguish between strains, but you are absolutely correct that most new cases are most likely the Delta variant. It is so disheartening to learn about the cognitive dissonance in this country regarding this and other vaccines. I am actually sympathetic to the people who really believe that either the vaccine is dangerous or Covid is not real - that is just a consequence of getting bad information. The people who are vaccinated and who understand and believe in science yet inflame the anti-vaxx sentiment for political reasons are another story...

RosalieTCeltics wrote:Let me tell you, back when we were very young (some of us older folks)  polio was the disease we feared.  My mother in law went to bed with her son one night and the next morning she could not walk. they both had polio.  No ambulance would pick her up and take her to a hospital, finally, a friend in the neighborhood took her there with his station wagon. She spent months in the hospital, in an iron lung, came home and was exercised on her dining room table daily.  She never walked again,  She would hold on to walls, go up and down stairs on her butt, and raised 6 children, 5 boys.

This is no joke, 700,000 people are dead right now. I bet their families wished there was a drug for their loved ones before getting so sick that nothing would help.  So Bradley. grow up

Thank you. The discovery of antibiotics and vaccines have done more to extend the average human lifespan than anything ever. People don't remember a time, say pre-tetanus vaccines, when stepping on a rusty nail could lead to death. Or pre-antibiotics, when a simple infection could mean death. You mentioned Polio. I would argue that next to the complete eradication of small pox, the nearly complete eradication of Polio is one of the great achievements of mankind. The cognitive dissonance necessary maintain skepticism regarding vaccines must be exhausting to maintain.

RosalieTCeltics wrote:So, with the Irving decision by Brooklyn, is this putting other teams backs against the wall as far as allowing unvaccinated players continue to practice and play???  This is a time bomb waiting to blow up, and Kyrie is right there with his finger on the button.  If one gets away with it, all should get away with it. If he sits, Richardson should sit

Unfortunately the agreement between the league and the players' association doesn't allow teams to require vaccination. The reason the Nets sat Kyrie is because NYC has a rule that someone who isn't vaccinated isn't allowed in a public venue, such as the arena where they play and practice. So essentially, he'd only be allowed to play away games in localities that allow unvaccinated people into their arenas, and they'd have to move practice to a private facility if they want him to participate, screwing up the rest of the team. So rather than deal with having him show up for games without having practiced, and only being around for some games, they're paying him to stay home for away games. I believe the league said that if an unvaccinated player missed home games due to non-compliance with local laws, the team didn't have to pay them (based on the Wiggins situation in SF).