How quickly things can change

From the point of absolute euphoria when the Celtics were leading GS Sunday 56-30 with about 6 1/2 minutes to go in the first half to the end of the third quarter tonight when they trailed 95-53 - a period of only 5 1/2 quarters - Boston was outscored by a staggering 171-98.

After a near flawless first 18 minutes against the Warriors Sunday, I didn't see that coming. Granted, Celts have limited talent on their roster and no inside defensive presence, but this was beyond brutal. Quite a shock to the system. I know who we were playing but 171-98???

Playoffs? playoffs? this team is not representative of this franchise in a playoff run, can't have it both ways, if we are rebuilding, rebuild, more than half this roster will not be here by the time were contending....

LOL...we lose to maybe the two teams that will play in the finals this year, and the sky is falling?

I just cannot understand why fans wants this team to lose and not make the playoffs , for a draft pick that might be one place higher!

do they really think that one or three spots is going to bring us a much better player?


we are NOT getting a top 5 pick this year. If THAT was the hope, it's over. Start rooting for the team to WIN.

Ainge will be able to sign ANY FA this off-season, that wants to come here. Tome to quit thinking the draft is all we have to improve next season.

kdp theres a big difference between having a shot to pick 5-10 and at 16 and above....I don't think this is a playoff team, too many obvious flaws....I want a shot at a better guard.

Sam middling team is too kind IMHO. We would get killed by Kentucky.

kdp59

"I just cannot understand why fans wants this team to lose and not make the playoffs , for a draft pick that might be one place higher!

do they really think that one or three spots is going to bring us a much better player?"

  In response to your above statement I offer my own personal reasons.
     I've been an adult Celtic fan for 66 years and over the years I have seen the agony of defeat become less meaningful for me. It is however, absolutely 100% necessary that the players and coach play to win at all times. The integrity of the game depend on this. Now when I view the game from the General Managers view point I can understand why the importance of a win can be compromised - especially when it comes to a draft pick for a sub 500 club. I don't have a clue as to what Danny's draft board looks like but I would hazard a guess that the closer his pick is to the number 1 pick - the bigger the smile on his face. General Mangers, you see, have reasons to view the game differently. Of course,  all of the above is just one fans  opinion, By the way,  Danny traded up just 3 spots to get a player he wanted in the 2013 draft. {Olynyk}

swish

Swish, your point about playing to win is nicely put.  And, after the drafting order has been established by the ping pong balls, it is normal that, the higher a team's pick is, the happier the general manager will be.

The issue that divides a lot of fans is one of timing.  BEFORE the ping pong balls decide the order of the lottery picks, the well-documented crap shoot aspects of the draft make it kind of laughable to watch all the armchair handicappers turning themselves inside out and mocking their drafts in hopes that their team will (wink wink) lose as many games as possible, when the end result could be that the team's selection might become even lower than their ranking in the all-important "lost" column.  That's the crap shoot nature of the lottery, and it was intentionally designed to be that way.

AFTER the ping pong balls have done their job, and AFTER the craps have been shot, the mock drafts and draft conjecture make a lot more sense.  Of course, drafting higher is actuarially likely to be more productive than drafting lower.

It's all a matter of timing.

By the way, I hope you're warm and dug out down there in Attleboro.

Sam

sam wrote:  I'm not predicting one friggin' thing except that I expect to enjoy watching the development of this team and I believe they'll be trying hard.  [/size]



Sam

Sam,

Hmmm...

I've known you for some time now and I don't think I've ever heard you say, or seen you write, the term "friggin'."

Sometimes it's the little things that are the most entertaining...

Regards

Sam

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/5/21/4348616/nba-draft-lottery-history-derrick-rose-lebron-james

Chart at the end of this link confirms the futility of depending on the  lottery to be of much help if ranking outside of the top few going into the lottery drawing.
      As far as the snow situation here in No Attleboro-- Pretty much the same as the greater Boston area. The side walks could be better. My motorized wheel chair needs to be winterized to include those tank treads that we saw on those old WW2 half tracts.

swish

NYCelt,

i've used it on a number of occasions on the forum.  It's one of my favorite words to convey in public what I would otherwise say only in private.  To me, it means the same as "doggone."

Sam

Swish,

Well, hunker down and keep warm.  If I hear of any tank-treaded wheel chair being involved in an Attleboro bank holdup, I'll know where to look.

Sam

That's me in a nutshell, Bob.  International and traditional.  Especially in this frig-
id weather.

Sam