first week of April combined mock draft ranking

Draftnet, Draftexpress and draftroom 2 round mocks all updated this week.

I combine and average them to get this ranking of where players were selected. Must be in at least two of the three mocks t make this list.

Rank-Pos------Player---------Hgt--Wgt--Age---School
1----SF-----Ben Simmons---6-10--240--19----LSU
2----SF----Brandon Ingram--6-9---196--19---Duke
3----PF-----Dragan Bender---7-1---216--18---Int
4----SG----Buddy Hield------6-4---214--22---Oklahoma
5----SG----Jamal Murray----6-5---201---19---Kentucky
6----PG-----Kris Dunn-------6-4----205--22---Providence
7----SF----Jaylen Brown-----6-7---222---19---California
8-----C-----Jakob Poeitl------7-0---235---20---Utah
9-----PF----Deyonta Davis---6-9---230---19---Michigan St
10----PF----Ivan Rabb-------6-10---215--19---California
11----PF----Skal Labissiere---7-0---216---20---Kentucky
12----PF----Henry Ellenson---6-10--231--19---Marquette
13----PF---Domantas Sabonis--6-10--231-20---Gonzaga
14----PF---Marquese Chriss----6-9---225--------washington
15----SG---Timothe Luwawu---6-7---205--21----Int
16----SG---Furkan Korkmaz----6-7---185--19----Int
17----PG---Dejounte Murrey---6-5---170---------washington
18----SG---Malik Beasley------6-4---185----------Florida St
19----SF----Taurean Prince----6-7---215---21----Baylor
20----C------Diamond Stone---6-10--250--19----Maryland
21----PG---Demetrius Jackson---6-1--194--21---Notre Dame
22----PF----Brice Johnson------6-9---230---21---N. Carolina
23----SF---Denzel Valentine----6-6---223--22----Michigan St
24----PG---Wade Baldwin-------6-3---194---20---Vanderbilt
25----C---Stephen Zimmerman---7-0--235--19---UNLV
26---PG-----Tyler Ulis----------5-9----160---20---Kentucky
27----C-----Damian Jones-----6-10---248---20---Vanderbilt
28----C-----Ivica Zubac-------7-0----240----19----Int
29----C-----Ante Zizic---------6-11---240-----------Int
30---PF---Guerschon Yabusele--6-8---240---20----Int

31----C-----Cheick Diallo------6-9----220----19----Kansas
32---SF----DeAndre Bembry---6-6---210----21----St Josephs
33----F----Juan Hernangomez--6-9---220---20----Int
34----C-----AJ Hammons-----7-0-----278---23----Purdue
35---PG----Melo Trimble-----6-3-----190----21---Maryland
36----C------Zhou Qi---------7-2-----209----20----Int
37---PF-----Petr Corelie-----6-11----220----20-----Int
38---SG-----Caris LeVert-----6-7----200----21----Michigan
39---PF-----Joel Bolomboy---6-9----230-----------Weber St
40---PG----Anthony Barber---6-2---185----21----NC St
41---PF-----Pascal Siakam---6-9----230----22----N. Mexico St
42---PG-----Gary Payton II---6-3---175----23----Oregon St
43---SG-----Isaia Cordinier---6-5---190----19----Int
44---SG----Wayne Selden Jr--6-6---223----21----Kansas
45---PF-----Ben Bentil-------6-9----235----------Providence
46---SF-----Damion Lee-----6-6---210----23----Louisville
47---SG----Michael Gbinije---6-7---200---23----Syracuse
48---SG----Malcolm Brogdon--6-5---215--23----Virginia
49---C-----Chinanu Onuaku---6-10--245---19----Louisville
50---SF-----Paul Zipser-------6-8----210---22-----Int
51---SF---Jaron Blossomgame--6-7---220--------Clemson
52---SF---Dorain Finney-Smith--6-8--220--23---Florida
53---SF-----Jarrod Uthoff------6-9----210--23----Iowa
54--SG----Sheldon McClellan---6-5---205--23---Miami
55--PG-----Isaiah Cousins-----6-4----200--------Oklahoma
56---PF-----Perry Ellis--------6-8-----225---22---Kansas
57--SG----Tim Quarterman---6-6----190---21---LSU

I was looking for this same list that was produced before the college season started. I know that I remember seeing it, but cannot find it anywhere.

Might be nice to see them compared. Off the top of my memory, the top of the list appears pretty similar to what I remember from before the season?

I think I posted one last month sometime, but that was the first one I did.

I don't keep past ones, as it's a rolling average for me.

off the top of my head

Hield
Dunn
Sabonis
Chriss
are all risers

it'll change each month as we get closer.

I use this as a snapshot as to where players are considered today only.

once we get to a couple weeks out from the draft, things do start to solidify.

KDP, here's that Jaylen Brown/Aaron Gordon video. As you can see, I'm coming around on him big-time. And I recall two years ago Aaron Gordon was ranked 8th-11th for the entire pre-draft season, and it was thought that Orlando reached at #4. Nobody says that anymore.

KDP,

Do you want me to sticky this thread to use as our ongoing mock draft thread?

gyso

Up to you Gyso,

it's a bit early as we still don't know for sure who's in and who's out.

I'll add another row that shows the last ranking for each player in the next one around may, to show movement.

mid April update: all three websites have updated 2 round mocks between 4/15- 4.18 now.

Rank -Previous--Pos-----Player-------------Hgt
1------1--------SF------Ben Simmons------6-10
2------2--------SF------Brandon Ingram----6-9
3------3--------PF------Dragan Bender------7-1
4------5--------SG-----Jamal Murray--------6-5
5------4--------SG------Buddy Hield--------6-4
6------6--------PG------Kris Dunn-----------6-4
7------8--------C -------Jakob Poeitl---------7-0
8------7--------SF-------Jaylen Brown------6-7
9-----11--------PF-----Skal Labissiere------7-0
10----10-------PF-------Ivan Rabb---------6-10
11----12-------PF------Henry Ellenson-----6-10
12-----9-------PF------Deyonta Davis------6-9
13----16------SG------Furkan Korkmaz----6-7
14----13------PF-----Domantas Sabonis---6-10
15----14------PF------Marquese Chriss-----6-9
16----18------SG------Malik Beasley-------6-4
17----17------PG-----Dejounte Murrey-----6-5
18----15------SG-----Timothe Luwawu-----6-7
19----23------SF------Denzel Valentine----6-6
20----21------PG----Demetrius Jackson----6-1
21----19------SF------Taurean Prince------6-7
22----20------C------Diamond Stone------6-10
23----22------PF------Brice Johnson--------6-9
24----28------C-------Ivica Zubac-----------7-0
25----27------C-------Damian Jones-------6-10
26----24------PG------Wade Baldwin--------6-3
27----25------C------Stephen Zimmerman---7-0
28----26-----PG-------Tyler Ulis-------------5-9
29----31------C-------Cheick Diallo----------6-9
30----30-----PF-----Guerschon Yabusele----6-8


31---32------SF-----DeAndre Bembry-------6-6
32---29------C--------Ante Zizic-------------6-11
33---NR------PF------Thon Maker-----------7-0
34---33-------F-----Juan Hernangomez-----6-9
35---38------SG------Caris LeVert----------6-7
36---NR------SG------Patrick McCaw-------6-7
37---34-------C-------AJ Hammons---------7-0
38---36-------C----------Zhou Qi-----------7-2
39---37-------PF-------Petr Cornelie-------6-11
40---35-------PG------Melo Trimble--------6-3
41---40-------PG-----Anthony Barber------6-2
42---39-------PF------Joel Bolomboy-------6-9
43---42-------PG------Gary Payton II------6-3
44---43------SG-----Isaia Cordinier--------6-5
45---45------PF-------Ben Bentil-----------6-9
46---51------SF----Jaron Blossomgame----6-7
47---44------SG-----Wayne Selden Jr------6-6
48---47------SG-----Michael Gbinije--------6-7
49---48------SG-----Malcolm Brogdon-----6-5
50---49-------C------Chinanu Onuaku-----6-10
51---NR------SG-------Josh Hart-----------6-5
52---50------SF-------Paul Zipser----------6-8
53---46-------SF------Damion Lee---------6-6
54---52------SF----Dorain Finney-Smith---6-8
55---53------SF--------Jarrod Uthoff-------6-9
56---55------PG------Isaiah Cousins-------6-4
57---NR-----SF-------Rade Zagorac--------6-9
58---56------PF-------Perry Ellis------------6-8



My picks today based on this ranking and our recent play:

4. J. Murray- scorer and best upside compared to Dumm and Hield
trade #16, 22 and #52 for the #11 pick
11. D. Davis- Rim protector with upside of A. Horford or D. Favors

31. J. Hernangomez- A shooter from anywhere, better K. Korver
35. Aj Hammons- Best big man left
45. D. Hamilton- UConn Shooter (not listed yet)
58. A. Desyatnikov- 7-2 Euro stash pick

Danny needs to try to get TWO elite players from this draft and we can see we need better shooters also.

kdp59 wrote:mid April update: all three websites have updated 2 round mocks between 4/15- 4.18 now.

Rank -Previous--Pos-----Player-------------Hgt
1------1--------SF------Ben Simmons------6-10
2------2--------SF------Brandon Ingram----6-9
3------3--------PF------Dragan Bender------7-1
4------5--------SG-----Jamal Murray--------6-5
5------4--------SG------Buddy Hield--------6-4
6------6--------PG------Kris Dunn-----------6-4
7------8--------C -------Jakob Poeitl---------7-0
8------7--------SF-------Jaylen Brown------6-7
9-----11--------PF-----Skal Labissiere------7-0
10----10-------PF-------Ivan Rabb---------6-10
11----12-------PF------Henry Ellenson-----6-10
12-----9-------PF------Deyonta Davis------6-9
13----16------SG------Furkan Korkmaz----6-7
14----13------PF-----Domantas Sabonis---6-10
15----14------PF------Marquese Chriss-----6-9
16----18------SG------Malik Beasley-------6-4
17----17------PG-----Dejounte Murrey-----6-5
18----15------SG-----Timothe Luwawu-----6-7
19----23------SF------Denzel Valentine----6-6
20----21------PG----Demetrius Jackson----6-1
21----19------SF------Taurean Prince------6-7
22----20------C------Diamond Stone------6-10
23----22------PF------Brice Johnson--------6-9
24----28------C-------Ivica Zubac-----------7-0
25----27------C-------Damian Jones-------6-10
26----24------PG------Wade Baldwin--------6-3
27----25------C------Stephen Zimmerman---7-0
28----26-----PG-------Tyler Ulis-------------5-9
29----31------C-------Cheick Diallo----------6-9
30----30-----PF-----Guerschon Yabusele----6-8


31---32------SF-----DeAndre Bembry-------6-6
32---29------C--------Ante Zizic-------------6-11
33---NR------PF------Thon Maker-----------7-0
34---33-------F-----Juan Hernangomez-----6-9
35---38------SG------Caris LeVert----------6-7
36---NR------SG------Patrick McCaw-------6-7
37---34-------C-------AJ Hammons---------7-0
38---36-------C----------Zhou Qi-----------7-2
39---37-------PF-------Petr Cornelie-------6-11
40---35-------PG------Melo Trimble--------6-3
41---40-------PG-----Anthony Barber------6-2
42---39-------PF------Joel Bolomboy-------6-9
43---42-------PG------Gary Payton II------6-3
44---43------SG-----Isaia Cordinier--------6-5
45---45------PF-------Ben Bentil-----------6-9
46---51------SF----Jaron Blossomgame----6-7
47---44------SG-----Wayne Selden Jr------6-6
48---47------SG-----Michael Gbinije--------6-7
49---48------SG-----Malcolm Brogdon-----6-5
50---49-------C------Chinanu Onuaku-----6-10
51---NR------SG-------Josh Hart-----------6-5
52---50------SF-------Paul Zipser----------6-8
53---46-------SF------Damion Lee---------6-6
54---52------SF----Dorain Finney-Smith---6-8
55---53------SF--------Jarrod Uthoff-------6-9
56---55------PG------Isaiah Cousins-------6-4
57---NR-----SF-------Rade Zagorac--------6-9
58---56------PF-------Perry Ellis------------6-8



My picks today based on this ranking and our recent play:

4. J. Murray- scorer and best upside compared to Dumm and Hield
trade #16, 22 and #52 for the #11 pick
11. D. Davis- Rim protector with upside of A. Horford or D. Favors

31. J. Hernangomez- A shooter from anywhere, better K. Korver
35. Aj Hammons- Best big man left
45. D. Hamilton- UConn Shooter (not listed yet)
58. A.  Desyatnikov- 7-2 Euro stash pick

Danny needs to try to get TWO elite players from this draft and we can see we need better shooters also.

We have the #3 lottery position currently, not 4.

thanks,

I still take Murray over Bender at #3.

If #3, I'd like to put in my request for Buddy Hield.

If it's not to much to ask, and I've got the draft spots right, Diamond Stone at 16 and Denzel Valentine at 23 if they're still on the board.

I'd go with Stone first and risk losing Valentine on the chance Stone gives us that center we need.

Danny?  Did you get that?  Dan...?


BTW; Nice job with this kdp!

you certainly can make a solid argument for Hield at the #3 pick for us. Especially with our lack of outside shooting.

after the top two picks, there seems to be 5-6 guys who are all grouped together and you can make an argument for any of them being Dannys first pick.

I still Like J. Brown myself and think he may turn into another Jimmy Butler type NBA player. But he's seemed to drop (for now) and his lack of consistent shot is a problem for the team , the ways it built today anyway.


Stone could be the next Al Jefferson, but will he give us any defense inside is my question. At #16 or 23 its a crap shoot though.

I like Valentine as a Crowder type player, but I think we need shooters from somewhere on this team.

either way things will shake up and down between now and the draft.

I'll try to keep this up to date, just so we can see the movement of players.

we never know what the real GMs think about players.

Get a shooter. That's probably the primary need. An athletic 3 or 4 is a close second.


KJ

Interesting that Bender seems locked in there at # 3 but i cannot think of a team in the top 5 that would draft him.

i see one video of him dominating what looked like some rather short high school ballers.

dboss

One can only hope the C's end up SOMEWHERE in the top 3.


KJ

I recently watched some videos of Bender.
He reminds me of Porzingis with better ball handling and he may be a better shooter.
I was very surprised at how good Bender looks.
Porzingis was also listed at 7'1" last year but is now listed at 7'3".
I wonder if Bender's height will change when measured at pre-draft workouts.
Hield could be an immediate contributor offensively for Boston.
It's hard to imagine Boston will take another guard with the Brooklyn pick without trading away a guard who is on the team now. Maybe Hield would take Turner's minutes if he signs with a different team.

dboss wrote:Interesting that Bender seems locked in there at # 3 but i cannot think of a team in the top 5 that would draft him.

i see one video of him dominating what looked like some rather short high school ballers.

dboss

Minnesota is definitely looking for a power forward.
They would probably pick Bender at #3.

Here's a new mock draft from Basketball Insiders.
I thought it was a little funny since 6 of the 8 Celtics picks are from guys who are 7'1"-7'-3".

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-updated-2016-mock-draft/

And all 8 are international.


swish

NYCelt wrote:If #3, I'd like to put in my request for Buddy Hield.

If it's not to much to ask, and I've got the draft spots right, Diamond Stone at 16 and Denzel Valentine at 23 if they're still on the board.

I'd go with Stone first and risk losing Valentine on the chance Stone gives us that center we need.

Danny?  Did you get that?  Dan...?


BTW; Nice job with this kdp!

what do you see in Stone that makes him better than AJ Hammons....how would you compare them?

that's a lot big men !!