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Report: Sixers prefer to trade Jahlil Okafor over Nerlens Noel
by 112288 Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:18 pm
Report: Sixers prefer to trade Jahlil Okafor over Nerlens Noel
By WEEI
With the NBA draft 10 days away, the rumor mill continues to churn, with the latest report suggesting the Philadelphia 76ers have decided which big man they’d like to deal away — Jahlil Okafor.
According to Philly.com, the Sixers would rather deal Okafor than fellow youngster Nerlens Noel, because they feel they can get a better return for Okafor, who last year became their first rookie since Allen Iverson to lead the team in scoring.
Okafor is recovering from knee surgery and told a Duke podcast that he hopes to return to the court shortly.
The Sixers are expected to take LSU’s Ben Simmons with the No. 1 overall pick in the draft, adding another big man to a crowded young frontcourt. The Sixers chose Okafor No. 3 overall last year, and they acquired the rights to Noel after the Pelicans selected the Malden native with the sixth overall pick in 2013.
The Celtics were linked to Okafor at the trade deadline, but there are concerns over his fit in Boston, since he’s not a great rim protector and generally plays with his back to the basket. He averaged 17.5 points a game last year.
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By WEEI
With the NBA draft 10 days away, the rumor mill continues to churn, with the latest report suggesting the Philadelphia 76ers have decided which big man they’d like to deal away — Jahlil Okafor.
According to Philly.com, the Sixers would rather deal Okafor than fellow youngster Nerlens Noel, because they feel they can get a better return for Okafor, who last year became their first rookie since Allen Iverson to lead the team in scoring.
Okafor is recovering from knee surgery and told a Duke podcast that he hopes to return to the court shortly.
The Sixers are expected to take LSU’s Ben Simmons with the No. 1 overall pick in the draft, adding another big man to a crowded young frontcourt. The Sixers chose Okafor No. 3 overall last year, and they acquired the rights to Noel after the Pelicans selected the Malden native with the sixth overall pick in 2013.
The Celtics were linked to Okafor at the trade deadline, but there are concerns over his fit in Boston, since he’s not a great rim protector and generally plays with his back to the basket. He averaged 17.5 points a game last year.
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Re: Report: Sixers prefer to trade Jahlil Okafor over Nerlens Noel
by 112288 Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:21 pm
I do not buy the spin on why they want to trade him. Why because they can get a better return..........come on............so given that they can get more .............because he must be the better player..............so why trade your better player?
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Re: Report: Sixers prefer to trade Jahlil Okafor over Nerlens Noel
by NYCelt Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:47 am
112288 wrote:I do not buy the spin on why they want to trade him. Why because they can get a better return..........come on............so given that they can get more .............because he must be the better player..............so why trade your better player?
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Agree.
I don't buy the idea they want to trade either one, at least not at this time. If they knew what they had with Embiid, maybe, but it would be too big a risk otherwise.
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Re: Report: Sixers prefer to trade Jahlil Okafor over Nerlens Noel
by dboss Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:00 pm
Before the 26ers do anything they should first determine if Embid is going to be able to play.
Regardless you take Simmons # 1
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Regardless you take Simmons # 1
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Re: Report: Sixers prefer to trade Jahlil Okafor over Nerlens Noel
by bobheckler Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:43 am
http://www.csnphilly.com/the700level/chad-ford-sixers-may-not-be-able-get-top-5-pick-okafor-noel-may-be-more-valuable?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo&yptr=yahoo
CHAD FORD: SIXERS MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET TOP-5 PICK FOR OKAFOR, NOEL MAY BE MORE VALUABLE
By Enrico Campitelli June 16, 2016 5:28 PM
When rumors started swirling about a potential trade between the Celtics and 76ers involving Boston's 3rd overall pick in the upcoming 2016 NBA Draft and Sixers' big man Jahlil Okafor, there were many on both sides who believed it to be a pretty fair deal that would benefit both teams.
Obviously, there is never universal support among a fanbase for a rumored deal and many Sixers' fans thought they were getting the short end. Plenty in Philly don't want the Sixers to part with Jah after just one season.
Turns out, teams around the league don't seem to believe Okafor is worth a top-5 pick in the upcoming draft, at least according to NBA insider Chad Ford.
Ford was a guest on 97.5 the Fanatic on Thursday afternoon and spoke about the desire around the league for one of the Sixers' big men. From Liberty Ballers:
I think that the Sixers and I both believed that the most valuable asset they had other than the No. 1 pick was [Jahlil] Okafor. I think that now, several weeks of gauging that interest around the league has led them to the conclusion that he might not be as valuable as they once thought. I think they went into the process asking the question, "Would we trade for the No. 3 pick, or the No. 4 pick or the No. 5 pick for a guy like Okafor, would that be good value for us?' And I think they've walked out of that scenario saying, 'We don't think we can actually get that for Okafor right now."
I think that's less an indictment on Okafor than it is a realization that center has become a little bit like a running back in the NFL... Especially the sort of player Okafor is, which is a back to the basket, below the rim, not particularly athletic, not going to stretch the floor, doesn't necessarily play defense big man. That just doesn't fit the schemes that most NBA coaches are after, including I think the 76ers. So I think there was a major miscalculation on the part of Sam Hinkie when he selected him at [three].
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[Nerlens] Noel might actually end up having more trade value because he does some things in the modern NBA, his ability to defend multiple positions, his shot-blocking, his ability to finish on the break, that make him perhaps a more attractive option right now. They're exploring that as well, but it's not easy to necessarily move either of those guys right now and get the sort of value that Philadelphia wants, which I think what they want is a top five or six pick in this draft, or a young point guard, or a young two guard that can really shoot the basketball to pair on the floor with Ben Simmons.
As Kyle Neubeck points out, regardless of what side of the Okafor-Noel debate you fall on, this isn't positive news for Sixers fans. It could also be opposing team GMs feeding info in an attempt to lower the price on one of the Sixers' bigs.
It was just a few short weeks ago when Ford also said there was a "high liklihood" that the Sixers would trade Okafor or Noel.
Perhaps we'll find out how teams really feel, including the Sixers, about the big men next Thursday night in Brooklyn.
bob
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CHAD FORD: SIXERS MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET TOP-5 PICK FOR OKAFOR, NOEL MAY BE MORE VALUABLE
By Enrico Campitelli June 16, 2016 5:28 PM
When rumors started swirling about a potential trade between the Celtics and 76ers involving Boston's 3rd overall pick in the upcoming 2016 NBA Draft and Sixers' big man Jahlil Okafor, there were many on both sides who believed it to be a pretty fair deal that would benefit both teams.
Obviously, there is never universal support among a fanbase for a rumored deal and many Sixers' fans thought they were getting the short end. Plenty in Philly don't want the Sixers to part with Jah after just one season.
Turns out, teams around the league don't seem to believe Okafor is worth a top-5 pick in the upcoming draft, at least according to NBA insider Chad Ford.
Ford was a guest on 97.5 the Fanatic on Thursday afternoon and spoke about the desire around the league for one of the Sixers' big men. From Liberty Ballers:
I think that the Sixers and I both believed that the most valuable asset they had other than the No. 1 pick was [Jahlil] Okafor. I think that now, several weeks of gauging that interest around the league has led them to the conclusion that he might not be as valuable as they once thought. I think they went into the process asking the question, "Would we trade for the No. 3 pick, or the No. 4 pick or the No. 5 pick for a guy like Okafor, would that be good value for us?' And I think they've walked out of that scenario saying, 'We don't think we can actually get that for Okafor right now."
I think that's less an indictment on Okafor than it is a realization that center has become a little bit like a running back in the NFL... Especially the sort of player Okafor is, which is a back to the basket, below the rim, not particularly athletic, not going to stretch the floor, doesn't necessarily play defense big man. That just doesn't fit the schemes that most NBA coaches are after, including I think the 76ers. So I think there was a major miscalculation on the part of Sam Hinkie when he selected him at [three].
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[Nerlens] Noel might actually end up having more trade value because he does some things in the modern NBA, his ability to defend multiple positions, his shot-blocking, his ability to finish on the break, that make him perhaps a more attractive option right now. They're exploring that as well, but it's not easy to necessarily move either of those guys right now and get the sort of value that Philadelphia wants, which I think what they want is a top five or six pick in this draft, or a young point guard, or a young two guard that can really shoot the basketball to pair on the floor with Ben Simmons.
As Kyle Neubeck points out, regardless of what side of the Okafor-Noel debate you fall on, this isn't positive news for Sixers fans. It could also be opposing team GMs feeding info in an attempt to lower the price on one of the Sixers' bigs.
It was just a few short weeks ago when Ford also said there was a "high liklihood" that the Sixers would trade Okafor or Noel.
Perhaps we'll find out how teams really feel, including the Sixers, about the big men next Thursday night in Brooklyn.
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