Danny Ainge Hopeful, Realistic About Marcus Smart’s Future With Celtics

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Post by dboss Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:18 pm

Shamrock1000 wrote:
dboss wrote:I thought thete is an indication that Boston is a better team with Smart on the floor tahn when he is on the bench.  That evaluation conteplates both the good and bad.  The final result was a plus in favor of Smart.  

That is the reason why i stated multiple times during the playoffs that we would need him to come back to get past the Bucks.

It will not be long before all of us have an answer.

Are you refering to the overall plus/minus stat? That does indeed indicate that Smart is a net positive, but that is not what I was thinking of.  Plus/minus cannot really evaluate the effect of a single player, and will always reflect the overall performance of the 5 players an individual is most often grouped with. As Swish mentioned, it is tricky to evaluate this in basketball, where it is difficult to numerically isolate the effect of a single player and then analyze the offensive and defensive aspects separately.
I agree I am not a big time fan of the plus/minus stat.

But I think Brad and Danny have a good feel for his team impact.  As fans we have no way to quantify things but it seems more intuitive.  You watch him make momentum changing plays all the time.  Some of those plays are ones where no one makes but him.

It will be very disappointing for me as a fan if they do not retain him for at least another year.
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Post by Shamrock1000 Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:24 pm

dboss wrote:
Shamrock1000 wrote:
dboss wrote:I thought thete is an indication that Boston is a better team with Smart on the floor tahn when he is on the bench.  That evaluation conteplates both the good and bad.  The final result was a plus in favor of Smart.  

That is the reason why i stated multiple times during the playoffs that we would need him to come back to get past the Bucks.

It will not be long before all of us have an answer.

Are you refering to the overall plus/minus stat? That does indeed indicate that Smart is a net positive, but that is not what I was thinking of.  Plus/minus cannot really evaluate the effect of a single player, and will always reflect the overall performance of the 5 players an individual is most often grouped with. As Swish mentioned, it is tricky to evaluate this in basketball, where it is difficult to numerically isolate the effect of a single player and then analyze the offensive and defensive aspects separately.
I agree I am not a big time fan of the plus/minus stat.

But I think Brad and Danny have a good feel for his team impact.  As fans we have no way to quantify things but it seems more intuitive.  You watch him make momentum changing plays all the time.  Some of those plays are ones where no one makes but him.

It will be very disappointing for me as a fan if they do not retain him for at least another year.

I agree, Danny and Brad definitely know what they are doing. Separate from my thoughts about how to analyze players, I love watching Marcus play basketball, and seeing him in another uniform would totally suck.

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