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Post by bobheckler Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:55 am

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Romeo Langford player comparison




by Mark Nilon

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Coming into the 2019-20 season, the Boston Celtics are chock full of highly touted rookies. Here, we will discuss which current NBA player most resembles each of the team’s young bucks. Today’s rookie: Romeo Langford.
The Boston Celtics came away from this June’s draft with four players, two of which coming in the first round. With their first selection — 14th overall — the team decided to bolster their wing depth with combo-wing Romeo Langford.


Coming into the draft, Langford seemed to be quite an interesting prospect. Despite being seen as a potential top-10 selection prior to the 2018-19 collegiate season, his draft stock slightly dropped coming into June due to an “underwhelming” lone season with the Indiana Hoosiers.

Although Langford did in fact manage to put up solid averages of 16.5 points, 5.4 rebounds and 2.3 assists per game, his less-than stellar efficiency on the court (specifically his shooting percentages) left people longing for more. While many have chocked his efficiency woes up to a thumb injury suffered back in November of 2018, the fact still remains — Langford did not live up to his pre-season hype.


Despite his struggles throughout his one-and-done season, the Boston Celtics saw the 19-year-old’s potential as too much to pass up on. The team spent a lottery pick to nab him in the middle of the first round. With a body built for basketball at six-foot-six, 215 pounds, the wing appears to have the physical tools necessary to hold his own at the professional level.

While no one should expect the rookie to take the NBA by storm in year one, his raw talent coupled with his impressive size should make it easy for fans to see him developing into a solid contributor in the association for years to come. As for who Langford appears most similar to in the league today, Kelly Oubre Jr seems like the optimal comparison.


Romeo Langford 2018-19 Season Highlights

Statistics: 16.5 PPG, 5.4 RPG, 2.3 APG & .8 SPG



Kelly Oubre Jr 2018-19 Season Highlights

Statistics: 15.2 PPG, 4.7 RPG, 1.2 APG & 1.2 SPG




Though Oubre Jr may not be the “superstar” type of player you may have wanted to see, make no mistake about it, this comparison is by no means a bad thing.

Similar to Langford, Kelly Oubre Jr is an athletic & lengthy wing with a long wingspan — 6-11 (Langford) & 7-3 (Oubre) — and an affinity for driving hard to the basket. Both players have shown the ability to create their own shot with a quick first step and with their effective ability to put the ball on the floor.

Langford and Oubre Jr’s games are predicated on their close-to-mid range play, but have shown the capability to hit from downtown on occasion. Despite their underwhelming long range shooting percentages, both players are young enough to realistically fix their strokes and forms altogether which, in turn, should significantly help their overall efficiency.

Since being drafted 15th overall back in the 2015 NBA Draft, Oubre Jr has consistently proven to be an impactful contributor for his respective franchise(s).

Last year, the 23-year-old saw his best professional season to date, as he recorded averages of 15.2 points, 4.7 rebounds, 1.2 assists and 1.2 steals per contest in a career high 28 minutes.

Am I saying Langford’s career will play out like Oubre Jr’s? Of course not! However, in regard to his specific style of play, the wing very much resembles that of the very talented fifth year pro.



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Post by wideclyde Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:40 am

I would think that if Langford can be as good as Oubre, he will be at least an average NBA player, but right now (even without a summer season) I am hoping that Langford can be better after four years than Oubre.

Langford was a higher ranked recruit than Oubre and may have a higher ceiling, but we shall see. Lots of pressure on him as training camp nears.

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Post by mrkleen09 Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:45 am

Good court vision, lots of patience (and maturity) for a young player, and a nice mid range game. I see Evan Turner more than Kelly Oubre. But either way, Romeo has all the tools to find his niche in the NBA.
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Post by kdp59 Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:47 am

other NBA players I have read in the past he has been compared to include:

K. Caldwell-Pope
Evan Turner
Richard Hamilton
Wil Barton
DeMarr DeRozen

for whatever that's worth
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Post by bobheckler Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:06 am

kdp59 wrote:other NBA players I have read in the past he has been compared to include:

K. Caldwell-Pope
Evan Turner
Richard Hamilton
Wil Barton
DeMarr DeRozen

for whatever that's worth


kdp,

I would be happy with any of those (least so with K C-P).  I don't see the Hamilton and DeRozan ones, though.  They were/are dead-eye shooters.  Even if Romeo's shooting is better than we expect because his thumb injury diluted his numbers, is he really Rip Hamilton?  That would make me exceedingly happy.  I'd be ecstatic with Will Barton too.

To be honest, though, I don't see him having a great rookie year.  Even setting aside him missing summer league I don't see where he has a clear NBA skill that will allow him to go out there and just do that and he'll get minutes for that.  Carsen Edwards, drafted much lower than Romeo, has that clear NBA skill.  He's a shooter.  His defense might need work (or not), his passing and floor generalship might need seasoning (or not) but he has NBA range and efficiency on his shots already and I predict he'll get minutes just so he can get out there and do that.  What's Romeo's clear NBA skill that will get him the minutes to develop this season?


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Post by mrkleen09 Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:23 am

He takes the ball to the hoop. A skill that is sadly missing on the Celtics and in the NBA in general. I will take than and some good passing for 10-15 minutes a night.
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Post by kdp59 Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:51 am

bobheckler wrote:
kdp59 wrote:other NBA players I have read in the past he has been compared to include:

K. Caldwell-Pope
Evan Turner
Richard Hamilton
Wil Barton
DeMarr DeRozen

for whatever that's worth


kdp,

I would be happy with any of those (least so with K C-P).  I don't see the Hamilton and DeRozan ones, though.  They were/are dead-eye shooters.  Even if Romeo's shooting is better than we expect because his thumb injury diluted his numbers, is he really Rip Hamilton?  That would make me exceedingly happy.  I'd be ecstatic with Will Barton too.

To be honest, though, I don't see him having a great rookie year.  Even setting aside him missing summer league I don't see where he has a clear NBA skill that will allow him to go out there and just do that and he'll get minutes for that.  Carsen Edwards, drafted much lower than Romeo, has that clear NBA skill.  He's a shooter.  His defense might need work (or not), his passing and floor generalship might need seasoning (or not) but he has NBA range and efficiency on his shots already and I predict he'll get minutes just so he can get out there and do that.  What's Romeo's clear NBA skill that will get him the minutes to develop this season?


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I tend to agree that Langford may have a hard time seeing minutes this year. He is very young and coming off that thumb injury also, not playing in summer league would seem a set back as well (thumb, I know). I see his rookie year much like Avery Bradley's first year, a lost one where he sits and learns. That worked out well for Bradley and I would expect the same from Langford.

I was thinking the one thing most of of those comparison have is that the players were NOT great outside shooters.I mean DeRozen ones main weakness has been his 3 point shot and even Hamilton was only a career 34% 3 point shot ( different era for sure though).


maybe in 2-3 years Tatum, Brown and Langford will be a great 3 man rotation at the two wing spots for us
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Post by cowens/oldschool Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:53 am

We will see how he translates to the next level, I think he can do everything, has well rounded game....could be a steal at 14, he’s going to be learning from the best young wings in the game and train/develop with them.

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Post by NYCelt Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:49 pm

I don't know if he'll be the second coming of any of those players.

Given his injury and the number of unknowns it has led to in his game, I'll be happy if he's healthy, productive, and the first Romeo Langford.
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Post by cowens/oldschool Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:06 pm

If he’s Evan Turner I’ll be disappointed, see some DeRozen....and hoping for or would be thrilled with a poor mans version of Paul Pierce.

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Post by worcester Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:39 am

With current NBA salaries, Langford would become a rich man's version of Paul Pierce.
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Post by dboss Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:50 pm

Damn near impossible to compare Langford to anyone who played in a different system.

His athletic profile is actually more similar to (Jaylen Brown)  Brown however looked physically stronger when he was drafted.  The big question mark for him as it was for Jaylen is his ability to make 3 point shots.  Some have argued that he shot well in high school but remember that the HS line is shorter than the college 3 point line and the NBA 3 point line is even further away.  The thumb injury may have been a major factor.  We will find out about that.  Looking at his shooting mechanics they can improve with better balance and a more even stroke (Slight hitch there)

He can create shots for himself off the bounce.

If you really want to get a better idea about him you cannot just watch the great highlight videos.  You may want to see the good, bad and ugly...if so see below.  1st half are strengths and 2nd half of video are weaknesses

https://www.insidethehall.com/2019/06/16/video-draft-express-breaks-down-romeo-langford/
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Post by cowens/oldschool Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:52 pm

Dboss I disagree, Romeo doesn’t have Jaylen’s elite freak type of athleticism. He can finish in traffic quite well with touch and strength, which is why to me he reminds me of Pierce....and has a nice midrange step back jumper ala Pierce.

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Post by dboss Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:54 pm

cowens/oldschool wrote:Dboss I disagree, Romeo doesn’t have Jaylen’s elite freak type of athleticism. He can finish in traffic quite well with touch and strength, which is why to me he reminds me of Pierce....and has a nice midrange step back jumper ala Pierce.
Cow,  I agree.  Jaylen is a freak.

I was thinking more about other physical similarities and his college productions.  I still think his overall profile is comparable.

To help explain why I feel that way, I have attached the link for their one year college stats.

Jaylen

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jaylen-brown-1.html

Romeo

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/romeo-langford-1.html
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Post by cowens/oldschool Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:46 am

dboss wrote:
cowens/oldschool wrote:Dboss I disagree, Romeo doesn’t have Jaylen’s elite freak type of athleticism. He can finish in traffic quite well with touch and strength, which is why to me he reminds me of Pierce....and has a nice midrange step back jumper ala Pierce.
Cow,  I agree.  Jaylen is a freak.

I was thinking more about other physical similarities and his college productions.  I still think his overall profile is comparable.

To help explain why I feel that way, I have attached the link for their one year college stats.

Jaylen

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jaylen-brown-1.html

Romeo

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/romeo-langford-1.html
Interesting that he has a much better 2 point% than Jaylen in their lone college season. It looks like he has a really good touch on drives, if he can improve his 3 point shooting we will have another very lethal wing. Also Bobby H was telling me that he is a former football player, so he relishes contact....

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Post by dboss Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:35 am

Cow unless you are trying to split hairs, the FG% difference is insignificant

Jaylen .431, Romeo .448  that is a .017 difference.

Did you watch the video I shared?  It is the most comprehensive one that I have seen because it goes deep into his strengths and weaknesses.  My conclusion is that he has a lot of work to do beyond his shooting.  I think he needs at least 3 years of development.  I'll post it again 

https://www.insidethehall.com/2019/06/16/video-draft-express-breaks-down-romeo-langford/
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Post by cowens/oldschool Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:14 pm

Dboss unless I’m losing my eyesight, Romeo’s 2 point % was .530, Jaylen’s was .482 according to the stats you posted. And yes did already see that video weeks ago....

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Post by cowens/oldschool Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:23 pm

Loved that they called him best finisher in the draft....

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Post by cowens/oldschool Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:52 pm

dboss wrote:
cowens/oldschool wrote:Dboss I disagree, Romeo doesn’t have Jaylen’s elite freak type of athleticism. He can finish in traffic quite well with touch and strength, which is why to me he reminds me of Pierce....and has a nice midrange step back jumper ala Pierce.
Cow,  I agree.  Jaylen is a freak.

I was thinking more about other physical similarities and his college productions.  I still think his overall profile is comparable.

To help explain why I feel that way, I have attached the link for their one year college stats.

Jaylen

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jaylen-brown-1.html

Romeo

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/romeo-langford-1.html
Jaylen is a freak, was recently watching that famous game 7, Bird vs Nique on you tube recently. Dominque actually also had a lethal mid range game that he isn’t known for, but noticed on alot of drives and finishes/dunks.....Jaylen actually gets up higher, he obviously has a lot of work to do to get to Dominique’s offensive level, we shall see.

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Post by dboss Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:14 pm

You did say 2 pt percentage and I compared fg percentage so sorry for that.
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Post by cowens/oldschool Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:29 pm

No worries, a .530% on 2 point fg’s is a very good sign this kid has a good feel/touch, that’s also with his injured thumb....

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Post by worcester Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:42 pm

.530 with a bad thumb is a very good sign.
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Post by cowens/oldschool Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:07 pm

worcester wrote:.530 with a bad thumb is a very good sign.
Right, Tatum’s 2 pt fg% in college was .504, very good sign this kid is a shotmaker.

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Post by tjmakz Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:12 am

It's hard to make a good analysis from Langford's numbers for one year in college, since he apparently had a thumb injury.
His 3 pt percentage was probably worse than it should have been because of the thumb injury and his 2 pt percentage was probably better than it should be because he probably drove to the basket more since his outside shots weren't falling.
Also, 2 pt percentage in college really doesn't mean much to a players success in the NBA.
It's interesting how close Langford's shooting stats were compared to Marcus Smart's 2nd and final year of college.

Langford: .530 2 pt fg %, .272 3 pt fg %, .722 FT %
Smart: .514 2 pt fg %, .299 3pt fg %, .728 FT %
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Post by dboss Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:24 pm

The comparison I see with Jaylen included his physical profile, height,  weight,  standing reach, wingspan and stats like rebounding and getting to the line and assists.

   

   





Height/SWeightS-ReachWingspanReboundsAssistsFTA
Jaylen6' 6.5"2228' 6.5"6' 11.75"5.42.06.4
Romeo6' 6"2158' 7"6' 11"5.42.36.1
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