2019-20 NBA Officiating Last Two Minute Reports

Here's the link.

https://official.nba.com/2019-20-nba-officiating-last-two-minute-reports/

Nothing on the Celtics-Laker game yesterday.  Stay tuned.

Gary Washburn @GwashburnGlobe
about 3 hours ago
The @NBA two-minute report said there were no missed or incorrect calls in the final two minutes of #Celtics-#Lakers game, including the contact between Jayson Tatum and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope near the sideline with 16.5 seconds left. The report called the contact "incidental."


bob
MY NOTE:  An offensive foul was called on Tatum for that "incidental contact".  Therefore the whistle was a mistake.  And nothing for Davis going over Smart's back?  And the replay showing Davis' pinky touched it last?  If the L2M is supposed to increase transparency then this report is transparently inept.



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You can use the link to see the actual wording. It sounds like gobbledygook to me.

No mention of the Pinky. It said the tech on Brad was valid.

[Insert poop emoji here]

The officials were weak in the last part of Sunday's game, but how many turnovers did the Cs commit?

It was a game that could have been won, but I believe that the Cs will need to clean up their end-of-game performance before we blame the officials.

bobheckler wrote:Gary Washburn @GwashburnGlobe
about 3 hours ago
The @NBA two-minute report said there were no missed or incorrect calls in the final two minutes of #Celtics-#Lakers game, including the contact between Jayson Tatum and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope near the sideline with 16.5 seconds left. The report called the contact "incidental."


bob
MY NOTE:  An offensive foul was called on Tatum for that "incidental contact".  Therefore the whistle was a mistake.  And nothing for Davis going over Smart's back?  And the replay showing Davis' pinky touched it last?  If the L2M is supposed to increase transparency then this report is transparently inept.



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Bob,

Smart wasn’t involved in that play with AD and two Celtics going for the ball.
The only foul that is clear is Theis holding AD down with his left arm.
It was a good no call on that play.
Let the guys play and go for the rebound.

tjmakz wrote:

bobheckler wrote:Gary Washburn @GwashburnGlobe
about 3 hours ago
The @NBA two-minute report said there were no missed or incorrect calls in the final two minutes of #Celtics-#Lakers game, including the contact between Jayson Tatum and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope near the sideline with 16.5 seconds left. The report called the contact "incidental."


bob
MY NOTE:  An offensive foul was called on Tatum for that "incidental contact".  Therefore the whistle was a mistake.  And nothing for Davis going over Smart's back?  And the replay showing Davis' pinky touched it last?  If the L2M is supposed to increase transparency then this report is transparently inept.



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Bob,

Smart wasn’t involved in that play with AD and two Celtics going for the ball.
The only foul that is clear is Theis holding AD down with his left arm.
It was a good no call on that play.
Let the guys play and go for the rebound.

TJ,

Smart was the "underneath" player, then one whose back Davis was going over. If you want say that's not a foul that's ok, I can say that Davis got away with a loose ball foul. If we say "let the boys play" and not call fouls on AD for over the back nor on Theis for his hand on AD's wrist, then it went out off AD finger.

There were a number of bad calls that game at key junctures. Calling Tatum out of bounds when he clearly wasn't, for one. He would have had an almost clear path for the basket for 2 if not for that bad call. Even the Laker fans on the Comments From The Other Side admitted they were getting some very nice treatment from the refs towards the end of the game.


bob

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bobheckler wrote:

tjmakz wrote:

bobheckler wrote:Gary Washburn @GwashburnGlobe
about 3 hours ago
The @NBA two-minute report said there were no missed or incorrect calls in the final two minutes of #Celtics-#Lakers game, including the contact between Jayson Tatum and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope near the sideline with 16.5 seconds left. The report called the contact "incidental."


bob
MY NOTE:  An offensive foul was called on Tatum for that "incidental contact".  Therefore the whistle was a mistake.  And nothing for Davis going over Smart's back?  And the replay showing Davis' pinky touched it last?  If the L2M is supposed to increase transparency then this report is transparently inept.



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Bob,

Smart wasn’t involved in that play with AD and two Celtics going for the ball.
The only foul that is clear is Theis holding AD down with his left arm.
It was a good no call on that play.
Let the guys play and go for the rebound.

TJ,

Smart was the "underneath" player, then one whose back Davis was going over.  If you want say that's not a foul that's ok, I can say that Davis got away with a loose ball foul.  If we say "let the boys play" and not call fouls on AD for over the back nor on Theis for his hand on AD's wrist, then it went out off AD finger.

There were a number of bad calls that game at key junctures.  Calling Tatum out of bounds when he clearly wasn't, for one.  He would have had an almost clear path for the basket for 2 if not for that bad call.  Even the Laker fans on the Comments From The Other Side admitted they were getting some very nice treatment from the refs towards the end of the game.


bob

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Bob,

Go into the link that you posted about the 2 minute report.
On the right side of each play's description, the NBA posted a video clip of that play.
You will see that Smart is not in on the play that was in question. Jaylen was the player in front of AD.
If you watch that video, you will see an obvious missed call with Theis attempting to wrap up AD with his left arm.
Theis also technically fouled AD with his right hand trying to pull down AD's arm.

There were missed calls on each side.
It's crazy that all 3 referees missed the obvious goaltending when Kuzma went up for a layup.
I don't remember which play you were referring to with Tatum being called for out of bounds.

Hi,
I saw 2 huge oops in officiating in the last 2 minutes of that game.
1. The Pinky. The replay clearly showed that the last part of human body that was touching the ball before it went out of bounce was pinky and it belonged to AD. And the refs could not charge a foul on Theis for holding AD's arm (yes it's clearly visible in the replay) after the fact. Besides, as TJ said: let the guys play and go for the rebound (which I agree with).
2. The tech on Brad. At the very end of the game like this where a single point decides the outcome?! To Brad Stevens?! For yelling "Are you kidding me!"?! After tolerating being gang assaulted by Lebron and Co. all game long?! Preposterous!

I'm not saying that these 2 mistakes decided the game. My point is the refs made the mistakes and the league covered it. Not good!

AK

There was an "obvious" goaltending that the refs didn't call earlier in the game, at least obvious to the folks that were posting on the Game On! thread.  We lost two points on that call.  The network guys couldn't understand the lack of a call then or later when it went the other way.  Those two calls cancelled each other out IMO, but the refs made a judgement call both times.  The refs were at least consistent.  Something about the ball wasn't above the rim when the block was made after it hit the glass.  The refs didn't miss either call, they just saw it otherwise.  LOL

Jayson Tatum was called out of bounds by a ref standing 3-4 feet away.  Look in the Game On! thread for when that happened.  The replays were very clear, he wasn't out of bounds.

As far as the Last Two Minute Reports go, I think they are much like what we have seen with Coaches Reviews.  They go way overboard past reality in order to agree with the ref's original call.  We get to see it in slo-mo, as do the refs.  Even Tommy will back off after a slo-mo shows a call that is different than how he originally saw it.  The refs rarely change their minds, even if it is obvious to others watching or commenting on the game.

gyso

gyso wrote:There was an "obvious" goaltending that the refs didn't call earlier in the game, at least obvious to the folks that were posting on the Game On! thread.  We lost two points on that call.  The network guys couldn't understand the lack of a call then or later when it went the other way.  Those two calls cancelled each other out IMO, but the refs made a judgement call both times.  The refs were at least consistent.  Something about the ball wasn't above the rim when the block was made after it hit the glass.  The refs didn't miss either call, they just saw it otherwise.  LOL

Jayson Tatum was called out of bounds by a ref standing 3-4 feet away.  Look in the Game On! thread for when that happened.  The replays were very clear, he wasn't out of bounds.

As far as the Last Two Minute Reports go, I think they are much like what we have seen with Coaches Reviews.  They go way overboard past reality in order to agree with the ref's original call.  We get to see it in slo-mo, as do the refs.  Even Tommy will back off after a slo-mo shows a call that is different than how he originally saw it.  The refs rarely change their minds, even if it is obvious to others watching or commenting on the game.

gyso

Gyso,

are you referring perhaps to the play where Jaylen Brown(not JT) got whistled out of bounds at the 04:52 Minute mark in the 4th when he was at least half a meter (apologies to for using the metric system - 2 feet then) from the line?

He then passed it to JT who was then going to be left with Rondo on him and plenty of space to get to the rim - in a 1 point game late in the 4th (albeit not within the 2 minute mark) that was deffinitely a bad call with significant impact.

EDIT: Metric system conversion

officials didn't lose that game, Celtics did. Lakers can take a win with one of our all stars out...OK.

TJ is correct on that out of bounds call Smart was not the underneath player and Theis obviously had a hold of AD's arm the whole time.

lets not all turn into Tommy I've never seen a Celtic commit foul on here.

Lakers took this one fair and square. who knows maybe we'll see them again with a full roster?

Vankisa wrote:

gyso wrote:There was an "obvious" goaltending that the refs didn't call earlier in the game, at least obvious to the folks that were posting on the Game On! thread.  We lost two points on that call.  The network guys couldn't understand the lack of a call then or later when it went the other way.  Those two calls cancelled each other out IMO, but the refs made a judgement call both times.  The refs were at least consistent.  Something about the ball wasn't above the rim when the block was made after it hit the glass.  The refs didn't miss either call, they just saw it otherwise.  LOL

Jayson Tatum was called out of bounds by a ref standing 3-4 feet away.  Look in the Game On! thread for when that happened.  The replays were very clear, he wasn't out of bounds.

As far as the Last Two Minute Reports go, I think they are much like what we have seen with Coaches Reviews.  They go way overboard past reality in order to agree with the ref's original call.  We get to see it in slo-mo, as do the refs.  Even Tommy will back off after a slo-mo shows a call that is different than how he originally saw it.  The refs rarely change their minds, even if it is obvious to others watching or commenting on the game.

gyso

Gyso,

are you referring perhaps to the play where Jaylen Brown(not JT) got whistled out of bounds at the 04:52 Minute mark in the 4th when he was at least half a meter (apologies to for using the metric system - 2 feet then) from the line?

He then passed it to JT who was then going to be left with Rondo on him and plenty of space to get to the rim - in a 1 point game late in the 4th (albeit not within the 2 minute mark) that was deffinitely a bad call with significant impact.

EDIT: Metric system conversion

Yeah, Jaylen Brown (not JT).  Around 5:52 PM.  (according to the Game On! thread - page 8 )