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The Boston Celtics Should Consider Keeping All Three First-Round Picks
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The Boston Celtics Should Consider Keeping All Three First-Round Picks
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The Boston Celtics have frequently been rumored to give up one or two of their four draft picks this June, in large part due to roster constraints. While subject to change as the season progresses, the Celtics are currently slated to select 17th via Memphis, 25th via their own pick, 30th via Milwaukee and 46th via Brooklyn.
On the surface it does make sense to consolidate some of those picks to either move up in the draft, or to acquire a veteran who can help them win next season. However, several aspects, ranging from the quality of the draft class, to Boston's window of winning, as well as their current core, should factor in to any decision they make on draft night.
Let's tackle Boston's roster first. Their two primary pieces moving forward are Jayson Tatum, who just turned 22, and Jaylen Brown who is 23. They do have two other crucial players in Kemba Walker and Gordon Hayward, both of whom will turn 30 this spring.
Boston is currently good enough to warrant win-now status given how both Tatum and Brown play beyond their years. But eventually their co-stars Walker and Hayward will produce less, and thus the team could risk finding themselves in a situation where they need to stock up on age-appropriate talent to ride the wave of Tatum and Brown futher.
With three first-rounders available this year, stocking up now might be the best course of action.
Granted, it would undoubtedly mean a trade-off in terms of how much Boston can fully embrace the concept of becoming championship contenders next season, as rookies aren't exactly known for their winning ways. It could be a step back in immediate production, and that also means potentially wasting years of especially Walker's final prime seasons.
That brings us to Boston's window of winning. As currently constructed, the Celtics should have at least two-to-three years of being one of the elites of the East, pending Hayward sticks around and the foursome of him, Walker, Tatum and Brown remain.
Would Tatum and Brown alone be enough to catapult Boston into that conversation after Walker and Hayward age out? It's possible, but why risk it?
With players such as Grant Williams (21), Robert Williams (22), and Romeo Langford (20) already on the roster, it might behoove the Celtics to embrace a more committed youth movement via the draft this year and try to build a team that age-wise could find themselves deep in the playoffs for a window of 10-12 years. You'd need some of those picks and players to work out and exceed expected production based off draft slot, but with three bites at the apple, those aren't necessarily bad odds.
Let's turn our attention to this year's draft class, which projects as a bad one. Normally a poor draft would mean teams should try to avoid having multiple selections in it, but there's a twist this year. There is very little consensus on who is good, and who is not, going into the draft. Players who are slotted to go in the mid-lottery today, could find themselves get drafted in the late 20's come June, and vice versa.
That lack of draft order could greatly benefit the Celtics. Given that they draft in mid to low areas, in a draft that's even more of a crap shoot than usual, the Celtics are free to swing for the fences.
You want to draft a freakishly long and athletic wing, who is two years away from influencing the game? That's fine, you can afford that wait.
You want to go traditional and find a defensive-oriented center in the late first round that will cost you very little in terms of salary, but could help you close out games? By all means, go get that guy.
The Celtics have an abundance of freedom with these selections, and trading them away would make any selection they keep more crucial to hit on. This is the old Sam Hinkie mentality speaking, of course, given how the former Philadelphia 76ers executive decided to look at draft picks as bulk items. The more you have, the better. While ultimately simplistic, it’s not a wrong way to look at it.
It’s also worth noting that the Celtics could stash a few of these selections if need-be. Theo Maledon has developed nicely at ASVEL - maybe he would be inclined to agree to another year of maturing in the French Pro A league before heading over to the States in 2021.
Of course, if the Celtics believe there is a guy, projected to go higher on the draft board who they feel is worth moving up for, then that avenue should certainly be explored. It would seem unlikely to be the case this year, however, as there are huge question marks hovering over virtually every prospect. It’s based on that premise - that no draft prospect really pops as a potential franchise guy - the Celtics should decide to, for a change, concentrate on quantity and more swings of the bat.
It also helps that Boston is generally a good drafting team. Outside of Tatum and Brown, Marcus Smart, Terry Rozier, E’Twaun Moore, and Avery Bradley are all noteworthy players who the Celtics have made players out of.
Ultimately for the Celtics, this is about creating something long-term to best assist Tatum and Brown, who are their pillars for the next decade. Should just one of these picks hit and become a significant addition to that duo, it’s worth it. So why not increase those odds?
bob
MY NOTE: My opinion is that we are already too young, 3 more draft picks isn't going to correct that.
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The Boston Celtics Should Consider Keeping All Three First-Round Picks
Morten Jensen
Morten JensenContributor
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I cover a wide variety of subjects within the NBA.
PHILADELPHIA, PA - MAY 5: Jaylen Brown #7 and Jayson Tatum #0 of the Boston Celtics celebrate ... [+] GETTY IMAGES
The Boston Celtics have frequently been rumored to give up one or two of their four draft picks this June, in large part due to roster constraints. While subject to change as the season progresses, the Celtics are currently slated to select 17th via Memphis, 25th via their own pick, 30th via Milwaukee and 46th via Brooklyn.
On the surface it does make sense to consolidate some of those picks to either move up in the draft, or to acquire a veteran who can help them win next season. However, several aspects, ranging from the quality of the draft class, to Boston's window of winning, as well as their current core, should factor in to any decision they make on draft night.
Let's tackle Boston's roster first. Their two primary pieces moving forward are Jayson Tatum, who just turned 22, and Jaylen Brown who is 23. They do have two other crucial players in Kemba Walker and Gordon Hayward, both of whom will turn 30 this spring.
Boston is currently good enough to warrant win-now status given how both Tatum and Brown play beyond their years. But eventually their co-stars Walker and Hayward will produce less, and thus the team could risk finding themselves in a situation where they need to stock up on age-appropriate talent to ride the wave of Tatum and Brown futher.
With three first-rounders available this year, stocking up now might be the best course of action.
Granted, it would undoubtedly mean a trade-off in terms of how much Boston can fully embrace the concept of becoming championship contenders next season, as rookies aren't exactly known for their winning ways. It could be a step back in immediate production, and that also means potentially wasting years of especially Walker's final prime seasons.
That brings us to Boston's window of winning. As currently constructed, the Celtics should have at least two-to-three years of being one of the elites of the East, pending Hayward sticks around and the foursome of him, Walker, Tatum and Brown remain.
Would Tatum and Brown alone be enough to catapult Boston into that conversation after Walker and Hayward age out? It's possible, but why risk it?
With players such as Grant Williams (21), Robert Williams (22), and Romeo Langford (20) already on the roster, it might behoove the Celtics to embrace a more committed youth movement via the draft this year and try to build a team that age-wise could find themselves deep in the playoffs for a window of 10-12 years. You'd need some of those picks and players to work out and exceed expected production based off draft slot, but with three bites at the apple, those aren't necessarily bad odds.
Let's turn our attention to this year's draft class, which projects as a bad one. Normally a poor draft would mean teams should try to avoid having multiple selections in it, but there's a twist this year. There is very little consensus on who is good, and who is not, going into the draft. Players who are slotted to go in the mid-lottery today, could find themselves get drafted in the late 20's come June, and vice versa.
That lack of draft order could greatly benefit the Celtics. Given that they draft in mid to low areas, in a draft that's even more of a crap shoot than usual, the Celtics are free to swing for the fences.
You want to draft a freakishly long and athletic wing, who is two years away from influencing the game? That's fine, you can afford that wait.
You want to go traditional and find a defensive-oriented center in the late first round that will cost you very little in terms of salary, but could help you close out games? By all means, go get that guy.
The Celtics have an abundance of freedom with these selections, and trading them away would make any selection they keep more crucial to hit on. This is the old Sam Hinkie mentality speaking, of course, given how the former Philadelphia 76ers executive decided to look at draft picks as bulk items. The more you have, the better. While ultimately simplistic, it’s not a wrong way to look at it.
It’s also worth noting that the Celtics could stash a few of these selections if need-be. Theo Maledon has developed nicely at ASVEL - maybe he would be inclined to agree to another year of maturing in the French Pro A league before heading over to the States in 2021.
Of course, if the Celtics believe there is a guy, projected to go higher on the draft board who they feel is worth moving up for, then that avenue should certainly be explored. It would seem unlikely to be the case this year, however, as there are huge question marks hovering over virtually every prospect. It’s based on that premise - that no draft prospect really pops as a potential franchise guy - the Celtics should decide to, for a change, concentrate on quantity and more swings of the bat.
It also helps that Boston is generally a good drafting team. Outside of Tatum and Brown, Marcus Smart, Terry Rozier, E’Twaun Moore, and Avery Bradley are all noteworthy players who the Celtics have made players out of.
Ultimately for the Celtics, this is about creating something long-term to best assist Tatum and Brown, who are their pillars for the next decade. Should just one of these picks hit and become a significant addition to that duo, it’s worth it. So why not increase those odds?
bob
MY NOTE: My opinion is that we are already too young, 3 more draft picks isn't going to correct that.
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I think that the Cs will try to get either a higher draft pick in this year's draft, a first round pick next year or an advanced young already an NBA guy in a trade or trades before the draft in June. Keeping more than one of the three picks does seem to keep the current roster too young for next year.
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There is a lot to be said in favor of strong contenders that have a solid bench of capable veterans - see the Lakers ,
Clippers and Bucks.
swish
Clippers and Bucks.
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swish wrote:There is a lot to be said in favor of strong contenders that have a solid bench of capable veterans - see the Lakers ,
Clippers and Bucks.
swish
spot on there.
Ainge can move all the picks next year for me. This draft doesn't look that great and getting NBA ready players NOW should be the priority. Hayward likely is staying either on his option year or a new longer term deal. only leaving Kanter, Wanamaker and Semi as roster openings. We already have people clamoring to get Waters up to the main club and if not here, likely somewhere in the NBA next season.
so thats TWO roster spots.
If Kanter stays ( Looks like he'll be gone right now) then that's only one.
give me solid NBA vets to round out our bench next year. Hayward and Kemba are NOT getiting any younger.
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Tough call either way.
They could use at least one of those picks to go after a center or a PG in the draft. Having a little more youth for future development at those two positions wouldn't be bad. From there it's Let's Make a Deal time to try and sign FAs or make trades for bigs and bench help.
They could use at least one of those picks to go after a center or a PG in the draft. Having a little more youth for future development at those two positions wouldn't be bad. From there it's Let's Make a Deal time to try and sign FAs or make trades for bigs and bench help.
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NYCelt wrote:Tough call either way.
They could use at least one of those picks to go after a center or a PG in the draft. Having a little more youth for future development at those two positions wouldn't be bad. From there it's Let's Make a Deal time to try and sign FAs or make trades for bigs and bench help.
We’ve got Kemba, Smart, Wanny and Waters at point, I don’t know if we need another young/project point, a mobile big that can do more dirty work is always a good asset. I’m actually souring on Wanny lately, too many mental errors, but so to is Kemba....
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cowens/oldschool wrote:NYCelt wrote:Tough call either way.
They could use at least one of those picks to go after a center or a PG in the draft. Having a little more youth for future development at those two positions wouldn't be bad. From there it's Let's Make a Deal time to try and sign FAs or make trades for bigs and bench help.
We’ve got Kemba, Smart, Wanny and Waters at point, I don’t know if we need another young/project point, a mobile big that can do more dirty work is always a good asset. I’m actually souring on Wanny lately, too many mental errors, but so to is Kemba....
I figure Wanamaker isn't a keeper and while I like Waters game, he's just too small. Smart is a true combo guard, but may be best suited to the two. I think a long-term backup to Walker is needed, and there are a few decent PGs that should be available in this year's draft. There should also be a good quality big around with our top pick, which is why I make it a tough call on dealing away first round picks.
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I too think a good PG makes sense in the draft. Of course also a center or a big.
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NYCelt wrote:cowens/oldschool wrote:NYCelt wrote:Tough call either way.
They could use at least one of those picks to go after a center or a PG in the draft. Having a little more youth for future development at those two positions wouldn't be bad. From there it's Let's Make a Deal time to try and sign FAs or make trades for bigs and bench help.
We’ve got Kemba, Smart, Wanny and Waters at point, I don’t know if we need another young/project point, a mobile big that can do more dirty work is always a good asset. I’m actually souring on Wanny lately, too many mental errors, but so to is Kemba....
I figure Wanamaker isn't a keeper and while I like Waters game, he's just too small. Smart is a true combo guard, but may be best suited to the two. I think a long-term backup to Walker is needed, and there are a few decent PGs that should be available in this year's draft. There should also be a good quality big around with our top pick, which is why I make it a tough call on dealing away first round picks.
All the good points, we can cut ties with Wanny, too many mental errors, I just don’t want another Rozier either, where it takes him 3 years to develop. Maybe just sign a heady vet, a George Hill type would be perfect. On Waters, I haven’t seen his size be exploited on defense like IT, kid is cagey and competes, very good defender actually. I’m more worried about his offense, if he can get a reliable 3 point shot down, he could be our guy, has a lot of slick offensive moves actually, I think his passing can be developed further too, there’s something there.
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Trade the 3 picks for VETERAN QUALITY players that can contribute the most NEXT YEAR. The hell with long range planning - the future is next year.
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This is a very interesting topic and there are a lot of things to consider.
This year Danny added 4 rookies through the draft and also signed Tacko as an undrafted free agent. He brought Poirier over from France. Lastly FA Javonte Green made the final roster cut. That is 7 NBA rookies on the team two of which are on two-way contracts.
This type of configuration of having so much inexperience has been partly responsible for the level of play we have seen during this mini slump.
However, the cost of having these guys provides salary flexibility. With the pending FA GH and soon to be JT, filling out the roster with low cost guys is a must.
Next year these rookies will have more NBA experience yet these rookies appear to have a low ceiling. Langford perhaps has the highest ceiling of them all. In other words I expect marginal improvement year over year.
If you add 3 more rookies to the team (Plus our 2nd rounder) you cannot expect a lot of improvement.
I think all options are on the table. Moving up, trading down or packaging picks and players for a veteran.
I do not think we need to keep all of these picks. I think we need a long athletic big that can scan score and defended and I think drafting a PG is a must.
My concern is that we do not have a long term replacement for Kemba Walker. We are starting to see some physical issues with Kemba. I think we look to draft his replacement in June which provides a 3 year window for development. Waters and Edwards are midgets and Wanamaker has no discernible upside.
In summary, I would look to trade for a veteran that is south of 30 and if that was not a deal to be made I would move up or move down in the draft to target a particular position (PG, PF) I would do a 2 for 1 or trade 2 firsts and a 2nd to move up. I would trade out of the first round this year and add a future first rounder. All cards are on the table (except trading any of our core guys)
This year Danny added 4 rookies through the draft and also signed Tacko as an undrafted free agent. He brought Poirier over from France. Lastly FA Javonte Green made the final roster cut. That is 7 NBA rookies on the team two of which are on two-way contracts.
This type of configuration of having so much inexperience has been partly responsible for the level of play we have seen during this mini slump.
However, the cost of having these guys provides salary flexibility. With the pending FA GH and soon to be JT, filling out the roster with low cost guys is a must.
Next year these rookies will have more NBA experience yet these rookies appear to have a low ceiling. Langford perhaps has the highest ceiling of them all. In other words I expect marginal improvement year over year.
If you add 3 more rookies to the team (Plus our 2nd rounder) you cannot expect a lot of improvement.
I think all options are on the table. Moving up, trading down or packaging picks and players for a veteran.
I do not think we need to keep all of these picks. I think we need a long athletic big that can scan score and defended and I think drafting a PG is a must.
My concern is that we do not have a long term replacement for Kemba Walker. We are starting to see some physical issues with Kemba. I think we look to draft his replacement in June which provides a 3 year window for development. Waters and Edwards are midgets and Wanamaker has no discernible upside.
In summary, I would look to trade for a veteran that is south of 30 and if that was not a deal to be made I would move up or move down in the draft to target a particular position (PG, PF) I would do a 2 for 1 or trade 2 firsts and a 2nd to move up. I would trade out of the first round this year and add a future first rounder. All cards are on the table (except trading any of our core guys)
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I have been disappointed with Wanamaker's play the last few weeks. Just when I thought he was going to be a strong contributor off the bench he fell into the ocean. Turnovers are a big thing with him, I don't know if the game with the young guys is just too fast for him, or he just gets lost in the shuffle and commits errors.
As far as the rest of the bench, I am convinced that Kanter will walk, he cannot be happy with his playing time since he came back from his injury. I watched him Sunday on the bench and he was not engaged much at all. This has to be a bummer for him but Theis has earned his minutes and RWilliams needs to get back into the swing of things. Romeo is an interesting part of this bench. He is a hard worker, talented as heck, there is no doubt there. Carson Edwards has just been a disappointment, the game is just so fast, I really thought he would have been better so I can see him gone as well.
I would love to see a multi talented veteran join this team next year, how many kids can you have???
As far as the rest of the bench, I am convinced that Kanter will walk, he cannot be happy with his playing time since he came back from his injury. I watched him Sunday on the bench and he was not engaged much at all. This has to be a bummer for him but Theis has earned his minutes and RWilliams needs to get back into the swing of things. Romeo is an interesting part of this bench. He is a hard worker, talented as heck, there is no doubt there. Carson Edwards has just been a disappointment, the game is just so fast, I really thought he would have been better so I can see him gone as well.
I would love to see a multi talented veteran join this team next year, how many kids can you have???
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There is a real possibility that Kanter moves on. However we may also lose Poirier. Afterall, he has been gorilla glued to the bench. You would have to use the jaws of life to extricate him. If he sits much longer he could be fossilized into a sitting position.
Edward by the way signed an unusual 4 year deal. Wanamaker crumbles under on the ball pressure but he is a pretty good physical defender. Grant is limited scoring in the post because he does not have low post moves and is unreliable shooting from the perimeter. He has value as a rotation guy but where is the upside? Maybe his upside is inherent in being a rotation guy. Tacko, Waters and Green are fringe players.
We need a veteran.
There is a real possibility that Kanter moves on. However we may also lose Poirier. Afterall, he has been gorilla glued to the bench. You would have to use the jaws of life to extricate him. If he sits much longer he could be fossilized into a sitting position.
Edward by the way signed an unusual 4 year deal. Wanamaker crumbles under on the ball pressure but he is a pretty good physical defender. Grant is limited scoring in the post because he does not have low post moves and is unreliable shooting from the perimeter. He has value as a rotation guy but where is the upside? Maybe his upside is inherent in being a rotation guy. Tacko, Waters and Green are fringe players.
We need a veteran.
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Poirier was up on the GLeague team this weekend. I watched him for a while. I am still trying to figure out just what Danny saw in him other than he is big. He gets the ball under the basket, brings it down, and gets stripped more than he ever scores. Commits silly fouls. This is a comedown for him, I am wondering if he regrets leaving the team he was on over in France. I see no value to him
Everyone was on the Waters freight train, I will tell you that kid makes more turnovers than the whole team. He is quick, I will give him that, but without a solid 3 point shot, a guy his size really has to fight on the court.
Again I say, give me a veteran, I agree with you dboss.
Everyone was on the Waters freight train, I will tell you that kid makes more turnovers than the whole team. He is quick, I will give him that, but without a solid 3 point shot, a guy his size really has to fight on the court.
Again I say, give me a veteran, I agree with you dboss.
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swish wrote:Trade the 3 picks for VETERAN QUALITY players that can contribute the most NEXT YEAR. The hell with long range planning - the future is next year.
swish
the future is NOW...where is old George Allen when you need him?
haha
but I do agree...Ainge trade two of those picks for future assets, then uses the MLE (assuming Kanter moves on)and minimum deals on VET NBA players to fill out the bench next year.
some options based on this 2020 FA list.....https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/
Bigs to replace Kanter id he leaves:
Baynes
Robin Lopez
J .McGee
Mason Plumlee might find the dollars are a lot less for him next year too, If so I would look hard at him.
should all be around that MLE
since I don;t see PG as need with Kemba, Smart and Waters all back next year, I will pass on that position and instead look for a purse shooting Guard or another Big (PF type).
M. Belinneli
R. Hood
A. Bradley
Justin Holiday could all be fighting for that MLE contracts next year too.
while players like
J. Hernangomez
N. Noel
H. Giles
S. Napier
P. Connaughton
could all find minimum deals all they get next season.
not to mention any trades Ainge may be able to swing in the off-season.
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they should have signed Bellini right when he was available. I think Gomez would fit in here perfect. I have always liked him
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I think there is a general consensus that this team needs to add a veteran into the mix.
A FA signing using the MLE makes sense but that does not answer the question about what Ainge should do will multiple draft picks this year. I read that Boston may have 2 second rounders this year.
A FA signing using the MLE makes sense but that does not answer the question about what Ainge should do will multiple draft picks this year. I read that Boston may have 2 second rounders this year.
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dboss wrote:I think there is a general consensus that this team needs to add a veteran into the mix.
A FA signing using the MLE makes sense but that does not answer the question about what Ainge should do will multiple draft picks this year. I read that Boston may have 2 second rounders this year.
IF it were me, I would keep the Memphis pick ( assuming there is a player I wanted to target there) and then move the other late first round picks. There are teams most years looking to get in on the back end of the first round and likely will be this year. Get a future first round pick back for those picks ( move them into future drafts so to speak). IF no trades come our way one can always draft players from overseas to draft and stash.
second round picks are sold and traded with ease each year, so I wouldn't worry too much about them.
so there are options for moving on from all those picks. But I would probably keep one myself.
getting quality NBA vets may be a lot harder. We will be well over the cap and likely over the tax line next year.
The MLE next year can get at least one quality NBA player, Think Kanter like player. I think we get each year, so even IF Kanter stays (he was signed using the MLE this year to a 2 year deal), we can add another quality NBA vet.
if we are over the tax line, we cannot use the Bi-Annual exception to sign players, so we will down to Vet minimum deals to round out the roster at that point.
IF Hayward and Kanter both stay we would only have three spots Green and Semi ( Non-guaranteed deals) Wanamaker (Free Agent)
so the Memphis pick, Waters and a vet at MLE would fill out the roster.
Ainge could eat Poirier's final year of his deal, if he wants to Keep Tacko around next year too. IF he doesn't I think another team will sign Tacko to a deal
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I think I would try to retain 2 picks this year. Picks by themselves will probably not get you a journeyman.
Danny can move around the board a bit. The Memphis pick appears to be locked in at #16. Maybe if there is a guy sitting there 2 picks above that, you could move up.
I am sure Danny's draft decisions will be part of the big picture.
I think I would try to retain 2 picks this year. Picks by themselves will probably not get you a journeyman.
Danny can move around the board a bit. The Memphis pick appears to be locked in at #16. Maybe if there is a guy sitting there 2 picks above that, you could move up.
I am sure Danny's draft decisions will be part of the big picture.
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On average - if my team is a strong contender - I would prefer capable seasoned veterans (say 28 years or older) at a minimum salary - over rookie draft picks selected in the second round or later. I'll go with savy over potential in this case.
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I want a hungry veteran who has been close but no cigar. Someone who will give you everything he has to put us over the top.
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I agree with you 100% however these are two different things.swish wrote:On average - if my team is a strong contender - I would prefer capable seasoned veterans (say 28 years or older) at a minimum salary - over rookie draft picks selected in the second round or later. I'll go with savy over potential in this case.
swish
Adding a vet via the MLE or a trade can be an option but you still have 4 picks to deal with.
I believe Danny should consolidate his picks to get a higher quality draft pick and then look to FA to find a veteran.
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Re: The Boston Celtics Should Consider Keeping All Three First-Round Picks
I don't believe that a team must utilize a draft pick - so leave those roster spots open for free agent Vets.
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Re: The Boston Celtics Should Consider Keeping All Three First-Round Picks
swish wrote:I don't believe that a team must utilize a draft pick - so leave those roster spots open for free agent Vets.
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It has happened, more or less. Travis Knight was picked 29th in 1996 by Chicago and then renounced. He later signed as a free agent with the Lakers. Back then, the pick would have been given a guaranteed three year contract. The Bulls didn't want to sign a marginal late first round pick for that long. Now it's only a two year guarantee plus two year team option contract.
It sounds like the team has to make the pick but doesn't have to sign the player. It's not likely to actually happen. The 1996 event was mentioned in Larry Coon's NBA Salary Cap FAQ. The FAQ didn't mention any other occurrence, so it is likely that it hasn't happened at all in the last 23 years.
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Re: The Boston Celtics Should Consider Keeping All Three First-Round Picks
gyso wrote:swish wrote:I don't believe that a team must utilize a draft pick - so leave those roster spots open for free agent Vets.
swish
It has happened, more or less. Travis Knight was picked 29th in 1996 by Chicago and then renounced. He later signed as a free agent with the Lakers. Back then, the pick would have been given a guaranteed three year contract. The Bulls didn't want to sign a marginal late first round pick for that long. Now it's only a two year guarantee plus two year team option contract.
It sounds like the team has to make the pick but doesn't have to sign the player. It's not likely to actually happen. The 1996 event was mentioned in Larry Coon's NBA Salary Cap FAQ. The FAQ didn't mention any other occurrence, so it is likely that it hasn't happened at all in the last 23 years.
Thanks gyso.
I was not sure about the 1st round which is guaranteed for a couple years now - 2nd round is not guaranteed.
Wow - you sure are sharp on these nba contract issues.
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