NBA Draft/NCAA’s

I thought we could start a thread on our thoughts of the tournament and the upcoming draft....

So is it only me or does this look like one of the weakest drafts ever? Just watched the USC- Gonzaga game and can’t believe they are calling this kid Evan Mobley the best big in the draft? In the game I just saw he had no impact either end and at 7’0” and 210 pounds looks like a string bean. I used to weigh 210, I’m down to 200 now lol. 2 guys on Gonzaga’s frontline that I never heard of, that were 6’9” and 6’7” outplayed him constantly the whole game. I don’t know, I don’t follow college basketball much until this time of the year, maybe the USC coach is terrible and he obviously got outcoached.

There are also no elite wings to be that I can see in this draft. Tell me I’m wrong, I haven’t seen anything near a RJ Barrett or Anthony Edwards. Cade Cunningham went 9-34 in his 2 games, the second of which his team got bounced. Obviously his shot must have been off, but I didn’t see any elite athleticism or ball handling type things from him either. Has anyone been following him? I have no idea about any good point guards in this draft...??? Curious of all your thoughts?

We got lucky with PP. Our Celtics do not need to get any more young talent. We need to get older, not younger.

worcester wrote:We got lucky with PP. Our Celtics do not need to get any more young talent. We need to get older, not younger.

+1 been saying we need young vets

I think the players we would want will be gone by our turn to pick.

Garza will go #1 without a doubt
Cunningham (will be a starting NBA PG, maybe right away) goes #2 or #3
Dosunmu, by #6
Mobley, by #10
Butler, by#4
Timme, by #10 (Taking the Mustache Celebration to the NBA)
Kisper, by #10 (shooter, would look great in green; not happening)

From those that should be available outside the lottery, but within the top 25 + or -...
If we're looking for a big, maybe Krutwig from Loyola-Chicago. He has a decent all-around game, can board and score.
If we're looking for a wing that can really defend, maybe Jones from Alabama.

NYCelt wrote:I think the players we would want will be gone by our turn to pick.

Garza will go #1 without a doubt
Cunningham (will be a starting NBA PG, maybe right away) goes #2 or #3
Dosunmu, by #6
Mobley, by #10
Butler, by#4
Timme, by #10 (Taking the Mustache Celebration to the NBA)
Kisper, by #10 (shooter, would look great in green; not happening)

From those that should be available outside the lottery, but within the top 25 + or -...
If we're looking for a big, maybe Krutwig from Loyola-Chicago. He has a decent all-around game, can board and score.
If we're looking for a wing that can really defend, maybe Jones from Alabama.

NYCelt,

Garza is projected to go #51 on nbatankathon.com and go undrafted on nbadraft.net.
He's pretty much a player who looks for the ball in the post and go from there.
I don't know any NBA teams that are utilizing that offense anymore.
If a big man is involved, it is usually via pick and roll or lobs and dunks.

tjmakz wrote:

NYCelt wrote:I think the players we would want will be gone by our turn to pick.

Garza will go #1 without a doubt
Cunningham (will be a starting NBA PG, maybe right away) goes #2 or #3
Dosunmu, by #6
Mobley, by #10
Butler, by#4
Timme, by #10 (Taking the Mustache Celebration to the NBA)
Kisper, by #10 (shooter, would look great in green; not happening)

From those that should be available outside the lottery, but within the top 25 + or -...
If we're looking for a big, maybe Krutwig from Loyola-Chicago. He has a decent all-around game, can board and score.
If we're looking for a wing that can really defend, maybe Jones from Alabama.

NYCelt,

Garza is projected to go #51 on nbatankathon.com and go undrafted on nbadraft.net.
He's pretty much a player who looks for the ball in the post and go from there.
I don't know any NBA teams that are utilizing that offense anymore.
If a big man is involved, it is usually via pick and roll or lobs and dunks.

They're all over the place this year in projections. I think we can ignore the mocks more than usual.

I've seen several with Cunningham going #1 and I've seen Timme as low as 40-something.

I think traditional bigs are coming back as a premium and I don't think Garza goes later than 5, 1 depending on who tanks deepest. Same with Timme, not later than 10.

If we're picking later, I think we're looking for role players like I listed above.

If we're mid-round, I think we go for a PG, especially if we have a shot at someone like Mitchell.

My predictions anyway. Relatively weak draft.

NYCelt wrote:

tjmakz wrote:

NYCelt wrote:I think the players we would want will be gone by our turn to pick.

Garza will go #1 without a doubt
Cunningham (will be a starting NBA PG, maybe right away) goes #2 or #3
Dosunmu, by #6
Mobley, by #10
Butler, by#4
Timme, by #10 (Taking the Mustache Celebration to the NBA)
Kisper, by #10 (shooter, would look great in green; not happening)

From those that should be available outside the lottery, but within the top 25 + or -...
If we're looking for a big, maybe Krutwig from Loyola-Chicago. He has a decent all-around game, can board and score.
If we're looking for a wing that can really defend, maybe Jones from Alabama.

NYCelt,

Garza is projected to go #51 on nbatankathon.com and go undrafted on nbadraft.net.
He's pretty much a player who looks for the ball in the post and go from there.
I don't know any NBA teams that are utilizing that offense anymore.
If a big man is involved, it is usually via pick and roll or lobs and dunks.

They're all over the place this year in projections. I think we can ignore the mocks more than usual.

I've seen several with Cunningham going #1 and I've seen Timme as low as 40-something.

I think traditional bigs are coming back as a premium and I don't think Garza goes later than 5, 1 depending on who tanks deepest. Same with Timme, not later than 10.

If we're picking later, I think we're looking for role players like I listed above.

If we're mid-round, I think we go for a PG, especially if we have a shot at someone like Mitchell.

My predictions anyway. Relatively weak draft.

I agree this seems to be a weak draft class.
With Garza playing 4 years of college basketball, teams are familiar with his game.
Last year was really hard for NBA teams drafting because of a shortened college season and no NCAA tournament.
I don't think Garza will be a lottery pick because he only shoots 70% from the FT line and because I don't think his game will convert well to the NBA.
But, I have barely watched college basketball this season and have little knowledge at this point of the players who will be eligible for this years draft.

How can Garza not be in the top 51...??? Makes no sense, Garza has a mid range and outside shot.

cowens/oldschool wrote:How can Garza not be in the top 51...??? Makes no sense, Garza has a mid range and outside shot.

I think a team will take a chance on him earlier than projected as a stretch 5.


This is from nbadraftroom.com who has Garza listed at #59.

59 Hornets (from Clippers) Luka Garza C – Iowa – HT: 6-11 – WT: 260 – WING: NA – Sr – A massive and talented post player who scores in bunches but lacks ideal mobility for the NBA game.

cowens/oldschool wrote:How can Garza not be in the top 51...??? Makes no sense, Garza has a mid range and outside shot.

I think due to the elimination of last year's tournament and the changes this season a lot of the mocks are way off.

When you consider the sheer number of mocks coming from amateur sources, a lot of the details are written by groups with about as much experience as me and you. It would be hard for many of them to really keep up with all the variables thrown in at this odd time.

Hey, that's it, let's write or own mock draft! We couldn't be much worse than average in results. Think anyone will pay us?

tjmakz wrote:

cowens/oldschool wrote:How can Garza not be in the top 51...??? Makes no sense, Garza has a mid range and outside shot.

I think a team will take a chance on him earlier than projected as a stretch 5.


This is from nbadraftroom.com who has Garza listed at #59.

59 Hornets (from Clippers) Luka Garza C – Iowa – HT: 6-11 – WT: 260 – WING: NA – Sr – A massive and talented post player who scores in bunches but lacks ideal mobility for the NBA game.

Sounds like they're not buying my prediction that the dinosaurs are about to make a comeback in the NBA.

I'm in the minority on that one so far.

NYCelt,

I don't think the old-fashioned post player will make a comeback unless the league makes a major rule change. If the league creates a four point shot, fagetaboutit.

gyso wrote:NYCelt,

I don't think the old-fashioned post player will make a comeback unless the league makes a major rule change.  If the league creates a four point shot, fagetaboutit.

If the 4-point shot becomes a thing, we re-sign Antoine Walker.

My wish for our next center is pictured below. I think Cowens will like him too. I'm not sure he's entered the draft, however.

Probably no room at the Inn but i really like Jared Butler from Baylor

All I know is that was one heck of a shot last night, he put up a prayer and God answered by guiding it right through the basket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The poor UCLA kids did not know what hit them

That was one of the most amazing games ever!!!

Love Johnny Juzhang, what a cool name!!

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/six-potential-2021-nba-draft-214134893.html



Six potential 2021 NBA draft prospects for the Boston Celtics


Justin Quinn
Thu, April 8, 2021, 2:41 PM


Now that the NCAA Tournament is over and gone, the shape of how the coming 2021 NBA draft is starting to come into view.

And with that growing clarity come a number of projections as to where the various teams around the league might be casting their gaze for their next cohort of rookies. To that end, we rounded up what a number of popular mock NBA drafts are suggesting the Boston Celtics could be considering come the end of this July. With a single first-round pick slated to go somewhere between the lottery and the low twenties, the franchise could pick up a helpful player in a particularly deep draft.

And while there’s a chance the Celtics simply ship off the pick in a deal to consolidate talent, it’s a lot less interesting of a draft analysis to write an article based off of that, so let’s take a look at who Boston might take if they keep the pick.


Rookie Wire - Cameron Thomas - guard - LSU



Sam Owens/IndyStar via USA TODAY Sports

Our sister site's composite pick for the Celtics, Thomas is a 6-foot-4 shooting guard out of LSU who can get to the free throw line but has struggled from deep with the Tigers.



He projects to shoot the rock from deep well with some work on his shot and confidence however, connecting from the stripe at 88.2%.


ESPN - Sharife Cooper - guard - Auburn



Arden Barnes-USA TODAY Sports

ESPN tabs the 6-foot-1 point guard for Boston, whose intriguing playmaking (with 8.1 assists per game with the Tigers) a potential skill that would immediately help a Celtics roster hungry for ball movement.


His terrible 3-point shooting (22.8%) will likely improve with time, but it is a concern for the Georgia native.


Bleacher Report - Josh Giddey - Adelaide 36ers - point guard



Graham Denholm/Getty Images

While his shot needs polish, it's coming around -- and a 6-foot-8 point guard averaging 7.5 assists and 8 rebounds per game is one of our favorites for the Celtics out of this draft class.  



Bleacher Report having Boston take the Australian floor general makes all the sense in the world to us, even if the offense never quite materializes at an elite level.



Sports Illustrated - Davion Mitchell - combo guard - Baylor



Robert Deutsch-USA TODAY Sports

Sports Illustrated's choice for Boston, Mitchell's age should matter less to the Celtics than to some teams, though his 45.7% 3-point shooting is likely going to drop off considerably at the next level.  



But he moves the ball and defends well despite being a bit small to play the 2, and would be worth kicking the tires on as a potential backcourt prospect.



NBA Draft Room - Franz Wagner - forward - Michigan



AP Photo/Darron Cummings

Able to a bit of everything, Wagner is probably going to rise out of Boston's range, though we'd love to see the capable swingman NBA Draft Room projects to the Celtics in green and white.  



A solid defender who can protect the rim, rebound, and score in a variety of ways, Wagner's utility has seen his stock rise in recent weeks.



CBS Sports - Ayo Dosunmu - guard - Illinois



Greg Bartram-USA TODAY Sports

One of the more divisive prospects in the draft seen going anywhere from just outside of the lottery to into the second round, Dosunmu is a combo guard with size with the sort of passing chops the Celtics would love.  



CBS Sports' first round choice for Boston, his turnover-prone game needs to be improved to succeed at the next level, but could be immediately helped by removing some of the more difficult passes he attempts on the regular.


Bob
MY NOTE:  The standings where we fall are extremely tight.  We are projected, as of now, to pick between #12 (if we fall to 9th place, which we are only 1 game in the loss column away from) -  #17 (where we are right now).  We could also fall further if we rally and get higher in the playoff seeding.  We are only 2 games in the loss column away from #4 Charlotte, and they've lost Gordon. This situation is very, very fluid.


Cameron Thomas
nbadraft.net - #16
mynbadraft.com - #18
Tankathon - #31
CBS Sports - #14
Rookie Wire - #16
Yardbarker - #19


Sharife Cooper
nbadraft.net - #38
mynbadraft.com - @25
Tankathon - #26
CBS Sports - #26
Rookie Wire - #23
Yardbarker - #15


Josh Giddey
nbadraft.net - #20
mynbadraft.com - #14
Tankathon - #21
CBS Sports - #22
Rookie Wire - #15
Yardbarker - #24


Davion Mitchell
nbadraft.net - #15
mynbadraft.com - #27
Tankathon - #17
CBS Sports - #6
Rookie Wire - #14
Yardbarker - #8


Franz Wagner
nbadraft.net - #11
mynbadraft.com - #12
Tankathon - #11
CBS Sports - #15
Rookie Wire - #15
Yardbarker - #10


Ayo Dosunmu
nbadraft.net - #22
mynbadraft.com - #22
Tankathon - #35
CBS Sports - #17
Rookie Wire - #25
Yardbarker - #23


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