Report: Jaylen Brown could “seek a move” if things don’t improve

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Report: Jaylen Brown could “seek a move” if things don’t improve


The Celtics All-Star could be the one to initiate change in Boston as soon as this offseason

By Jack Simone@JackSimoneNBA  Feb 1, 2022, 7:25pm EST  130 Comments



According to Steve Bulpett of Heavy.com, the Boston Celtics could be forced to make some franchise-altering decisions in the coming months.

Brown has been helping spearhead change both on and off the court lately, and the C’s have gone 4-1 in their last five games. Bulpett, a long-time Celtics reporter who has since moved to over Heavy.com, had sources tell him that unless the team gets its act together, “Brown could be the one to acknowledge that the mix isn’t right and seek a move.”

In the article, Bulpett revealed that multiple sources called looking for intel on Brown. While this is simply front offices doing their due diligence, the questions that surfaced were intriguing.

Sources inquired about things such as Brown’s development since entering the league, whether or not he’s been at the root of Boston’s problems, and how he is as a person. In turn, those same sources admitted that the C’s haven’t been dangling Brown in trade talks, but if that opportunity does present itself, “you’d better be ready to move fast.”

The general consensus is that opposing teams would “have to give up A LOT” in any trade for Brown.

The one-time All-Star is averaging 24.4 points, 6.6 rebounds, and 3.0 assists while shooting 45.9 percent from the field and 36.1 percent from behind the arc this season.

In addition, a source told Bulpett that the Celtics’ recent stretch of solid play is how they’ve wanted to play for a long time. But in turn, disclosed some eye-popping information about the mentality of Brown in recent years.

“But when it was going bad, it was really hard to watch. It seemed like Brown was feeding off Tatum holding it. Like, Brown goes, ‘Ah, screw it. Tatum’s held it three straight times. Now if I get the ball, I’m shooting no matter what.’ That just kills what you’re trying to do as a team.”

Jayson Tatum ranks seventh in the NBA in terms of isolation frequency this season. However, his field goal percentage (38.4 percent) in those situations ranks fifth-worst amongst players who attempt at least three iso shots per game.

As a team, the Celtics rank top-five in terms of isolation shots per game, but as mentioned, this recent stretch of winning has reflected how they hope to play as a team. Bulpett’s sources said that “no one denies the talent that’s there,” but it’s all about consistency.

The Celtics have lingered around the .500 mark for the last two seasons. If serious improvements aren’t made soon, things could get crazy this offseason.


Bob
MY NOTE:  God, I hope this is all bullshite.  C'mon, Jaylen!  You pushed us to hire Ime, you've said you and Jayson are good together, give Brad a chance to work some magic.


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Any young player at his level will have plenty of options, this is BS….yawn

cowens/oldschool wrote:Any young player at his level will have plenty of options, this is BS….yawn

Cow,

Agreed, even not-so-young players at his level will have plenty of options.  The question is "will he ask for Brad to explore those options or not?".  That's what this article is about.  It's not about what Jaylen could have, it's about what Jaylen may want if.


Bob


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Is this really news? Any great player and competitor will want to be in a winning situation. Even if JB has muttered something occasionally, muttering is still pretty far from asking for a trade. He's also signed through the 23-24 season I believe...

The media (not all but many) have all been on the trade Jaylen bandwagon.  The Celtics organization threw cold water on that narrative again recently.  In no uncertain terms, the Celtics have declared that their road to success lies in building the team around their two pillars.

Now Bulpett tells us something that we have know about for a few years.  Teams do call the Celtics and Jaylen Brown's name is on their lips.  Maybe some of these teams have been listening to the media too much.

Jaylen has never shown any indication that he is looking to go elsewhere.  To the contrary.  He describes himself as a Bostonian.  He is a winner both on and off the court.

In sum, this article describes a hypothetical situation.  There will be a lot of folks that will eat crow before all is said and done.

There's nothing wrong with this article as it is written. With the shelf life of these guys being right at 4.5 years, it is difficult not to at least publicly question things about the current state of affairs of the team you are on.

No doubt about Boston's rich history. We know what we're doing. But history is made in the present. And we've made it quite clear on this site that the last 2 years have been forgettable. Fan's tolerance is just about two years. At least Boston fan's tolerance is that much. Very similar to UNC-CH in college basketball. NC State fans when asked what our program's best two years were historically come back with jokingly, "The 2 years Matt Doherty was coach at Carolina." (You would think they'd come back with 1974 and 1983, but no.)

Heck, Boston hasn't even had two really bad seasons like Carolina did and but it's time for things to start moving in the positive direction in Boston. Now. Not by the trade deadline. Not during the offseason. Now. Today.

These guys are under a completely different paradigm than the rest of us. They are trying to cram a lifetime of salary/income into 4 years all in their early 20's. But they all want the chip, too.

Most NBA owners wake up every morning and don't have a choice. The choice is, is my team going to make money or are we going to win a championship this year. Most owners are just in this for the money and prestige of owning an NBA team. They will never win a championship. The return on investment must be great because I don't ever see any owner bailing out unless they are forced out. So it's not a bad holding in your portfolio.

Very few teams/franchises can have both the money and an annual shot at the title. The Lakers and Celtics are the first two. And more so the Lakers than the Celtics lately. I've seen 5 championships in my cognizant lifetime. But during that same time, the Lakers have leveled the totals at 17 & 17. We still have their number face-to-face at 9-3. You have some considerable fall off to teams like the Bulls and Warriors after that, but that's about it.

So unless JB is looking at the Lakers as his other destination, he knows Boston is the only other place that can pull it off. If he is even trying to do anything, it is further act like a leader and rattle the cage through the whole organization. He's saying to the current team, which BTW seems to be working, "It's time." And to the rest of the organization past the coach, "Keep 'em comin'. Don't get lazy on us. Keep surrounding us with the pieces that will make us look like the Warriors did a few years ago. THAT'S what we want. No one and dones here. We want a dynasty. Here."

Anyway. Tonight is yet another opportunity to move the needle into the positive zone and keep it there. A loss tonight ain't gonna cut it. An "Atlanta" lapse tonight ain't gonna cut it. This game should be another steamroll by us. I'm just sayin'.

db

db

If the shelf life of our core guys is only 4.5 years we are in big trouble and should immediately do a top to bottom rebuild. lol

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Report: Jaylen Brown could “seek a move” if things don’t improve


The Celtics All-Star could be the one to initiate change in Boston as soon as this offseason

By Jack Simone@JackSimoneNBA  Feb 1, 2022, 7:25pm EST  130 Comments



According to Steve Bulpett of Heavy.com, the Boston Celtics could be forced to make some franchise-altering decisions in the coming months.

Brown has been helping spearhead change both on and off the court lately, and the C’s have gone 4-1 in their last five games. Bulpett, a long-time Celtics reporter who has since moved to over Heavy.com, had sources tell him that unless the team gets its act together, “Brown could be the one to acknowledge that the mix isn’t right and seek a move.”

In the article, Bulpett revealed that multiple sources called looking for intel on Brown. While this is simply front offices doing their due diligence, the questions that surfaced were intriguing.

Sources inquired about things such as Brown’s development since entering the league, whether or not he’s been at the root of Boston’s problems, and how he is as a person. In turn, those same sources admitted that the C’s haven’t been dangling Brown in trade talks, but if that opportunity does present itself, “you’d better be ready to move fast.”

The general consensus is that opposing teams would “have to give up A LOT” in any trade for Brown.

The one-time All-Star is averaging 24.4 points, 6.6 rebounds, and 3.0 assists while shooting 45.9 percent from the field and 36.1 percent from behind the arc this season.

In addition, a source told Bulpett that the Celtics’ recent stretch of solid play is how they’ve wanted to play for a long time. But in turn, disclosed some eye-popping information about the mentality of Brown in recent years.

“But when it was going bad, it was really hard to watch. It seemed like Brown was feeding off Tatum holding it. Like, Brown goes, ‘Ah, screw it. Tatum’s held it three straight times. Now if I get the ball, I’m shooting no matter what.’ That just kills what you’re trying to do as a team.”

Jayson Tatum ranks seventh in the NBA in terms of isolation frequency this season. However, his field goal percentage (38.4 percent) in those situations ranks fifth-worst amongst players who attempt at least three iso shots per game.

As a team, the Celtics rank top-five in terms of isolation shots per game, but as mentioned, this recent stretch of winning has reflected how they hope to play as a team. Bulpett’s sources said that “no one denies the talent that’s there,” but it’s all about consistency.

The Celtics have lingered around the .500 mark for the last two seasons. If serious improvements aren’t made soon, things could get crazy this offseason.


Bob
MY NOTE:  God, I hope this is all bullshite.  C'mon, Jaylen!  You pushed us to hire Ime, you've said you and Jayson are good together, give Brad a chance to work some magic.


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Believe it

dboss wrote:The media (not all but many) have all been on the trade Jaylen bandwagon.  The Celtics organization threw cold water on that narrative again recently.  In no uncertain terms, the Celtics have declared that their road to success lies in building the team around their two pillars.

Now Bulpett tells us something that we have know about for a few years.  Teams do call the Celtics and Jaylen Brown's name is on their lips.  Maybe some of these teams have been listening to the media too much.

Jaylen has never shown any indication that he is looking to go elsewhere.  To the contrary.  He describes himself as a Bostonian.  He is a winner both on and off the court.

In sum, this article describes a hypothetical situation.  There will be a lot of folks that will eat crow before all is said and done.

Yes but there is a chance that it has escalated. I wouldn't take it lightly. We talked about this here before.
BTW, Teams have their own intel and do NOT rely on the media for info. Teams USE media to shape narratives at times but its hardly the other way around.
As far as how Brown describes himself, don’t drink the Kool Aide. He strikes me as being very passive aggressive.
Bulpett is highly reputable so I wouldn't be to dismissive of this.

dboss,

You know our guys are far above average!! But I'm pretty sure that's the average without checking. And 4.5 may be giving it some.

db

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Coach Udoka on Jaylen Brown stepping up more as a vocal leader of late: “It shows that he’s really engaged and locked in to improving the team."


Bob
MY NOTE: Funny how one person's "really engaged and locked in" is another person's "frustrated and ready to give up"?

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We have only " the media's" word for it that Brown might seek a move. I'll take Brown's words and actions over Bulpett's "sources" and refrain from psycho-analyzing him from afar.

jrleftfoot wrote:We have only " the media's" word for it that Brown  might seek a move. I'll take Brown's words and actions over Bulpett's "sources" and refrain from psycho-analyzing him from afar.

+1 this story is a lot of BS

Talk about a stretch.

First, there are the usual "sources."

Second, if you read the statement carefully, even the sources don't claim Brown said anything about wanting a move. They only speculate that if things don't improve, Brown could ask out.

So without the mysterious sources even saying they heard Brown say he might seek a trade, an article gets posted?

Bulpett is usually better than this when making a statement, and I can only speculate that Simone is someone who needed to fill some space.

I can't believe I'm even wasting my own time with this. Gotta go...

NYCelt wrote:Talk about a stretch.

First, there are the usual "sources."

Second, if you read the statement carefully, even the sources don't claim Brown said anything about wanting a move. They only speculate that if things don't improve, Brown could ask out.

So without the mysterious sources even saying they heard Brown say he might seek a trade, an article gets posted?

Bulpett is usually better than this when making a statement, and I can only speculate that Simone is someone who needed to fill some space.

I can't believe I'm even wasting my own time with this. Gotta go...

NYCelt

That pretty much sums it up.

His article dovetails with the ongoing narrative being floated by several prominent Boston Sports writers that Jayson and Jaylen cannot play together. That Jayson and Jaylen do not like each other. That the Celtics should trade Jaylen to make the team better. etc. etc.

The article is true in that Jaylen could eventually seek employment with another team but that case could also be made for Jayson Tatum or any other player on the team. Fans may do well not to become alarmists. Don't buy into the hypo-the-ti-cal.

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if this cleverly came from Brown’s camp.
Call it bs and it may be but this smells suspiciously like his camp put it out.

With the quality of young man that Jaylen Brown has been since coming to the Celtics, I will only believe that he wants to go to another team will be when HE says it out of his own mouth.

Until that point the team has FINALLY become fun to watch again, and likely fun to play on again.