The Boston Celtics currently possess 10 traded player exceptions, and these are all of them
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The Boston Celtics currently possess 10 traded player exceptions, and these are all of them
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The Boston Celtics currently possess 10 traded player exceptions, and these are all of them
Justin Quinn
Mon, February 14, 2022, 5:08 PM·2 min read
Traded player exceptions (TPEs) — the “coupon” that allows teams to complete a non-simultaneous trade months after the first players end up being dealt into another team’s cap space — are increasingly an important tool in today’s NBA, and the Boston Celtics have been one of the league’s most frequent and creative users of TPEs as a team-building tool in recent years.
And at the 2022 NBA trade deadline, the team created several new TPEs to add to their rolling collection of trade exceptions, good for a year in most circumstances (the pandemic upset that a bit), several of which could be put to use by Boston this coming offseason.
Let’s take a quick look at the TPEs Boston has to work with — and for how long.
Moses Brown TPE - $500,000 (expires June 27, 2022)
Kemba Walker TPE- $1,024,467 (expires May 17, 2022)
Tristan Thompson TPE - $1,440,549 (expires July 7, 2022)
Enes Freedom TPE - $1,669,178 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
Bruno Fernando TPE - $1,782,621 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
PJ Dozier TPE - $1,910,860 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
Bol Bol TPE - $2,161,152 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
Dennis Schroder TPE - $5,890,000 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
Juancho Hernangomez TPE - $6,907,815 (expires Jan. 19 ,2023)
Evan Fournier TPE - $17,142,857 (expires July 18, 2022)
Bob
MY NOTE: I suspect the smaller ones will expire without being used, and that's ok. Could Brad use them to unload a lower salaried player for a higher salaried, more veteran player (i.e. trade a player on a rookie contract for a veteran on the mid-level exemption)? Sure, and that might be good, but probably not needle-moving since any rookie that's looking good isn't likely to be traded because he's good and cheap and any rookie that isn't looking good isn't going to be appealing to another team enough to give up a quality veteran.
Moses Brown TPE - $500,000 (expires June 27, 2022)
Kemba Walker TPE- $1,024,467 (expires May 17, 2022)
Tristan Thompson TPE - $1,440,549 (expires July 7, 2022)
All three of these TPEs expire in 3-4 months. The Kemba TPE probably won't be used since it is before the draft and before free agency but after the trade deadline. So how would/could you use it? Thompson's may be used because it expires post-draft and post-free agency opening season.
Another grouping might be the ones in the $1.5M - $2M range. Not enough to land a quality player by themselves but if you need to add some money to a bigger trade to get the salaries within 25% of each other they might be helpful. For example, Bol Bol's $2.1M actually counts like $2.7M if you're just trying to get within 25% of another number.
The Group 2 TPEs that I see as qualifying for this are:
Enes Freedom TPE - $1,669,178 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
Bruno Fernando TPE - $1,782,621 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
PJ Dozier TPE - $1,910,860 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
Bol Bol TPE - $2,161,152 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
Unlike the smaller ones in Group 1 these all expire in 2023, so there's plenty of opportunities for Brad to use them. More $, more time = more utile.
The bigger ones, however, are something else. They can be broken up into multiple bites. I believe they can also be used to facilitate trades for other teams (we contribute some of the TPEs to their deal and we receive a player and/or picks in return).
Which TPEs fall into the last category, Group 3, in my opinion?
Dennis Schroder TPE - $5,890,000 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
Juancho Hernangomez TPE - $6,907,815 (expires Jan. 19 ,2023)
Evan Fournier TPE - $17,142,857 (expires July 18, 2022)
The Fournier TPE isn't as big as Gordon Hayward's $28M one but, if you add it to another player's salary, you can land yourself a pretty big fish. It expires in 2022, but after free agency opens and the salary cap is set and teams are jockeying to stay under it.
Another consideration to remember is that while TPEs expire, they can be rolled forward. Some of Gordon's TPE was used to get Fournier, and now Fournier's free agency signing with NYK was manipulated into a TPE with a one-year life span from there for us. That all happened due to Caponomics. The Knicks needed the relief, not us, we just gained by giving them the cap room to sign Fournier when we were going to lose him anyway. This $17M TPE is, basically, free money to us since Fournier was gone and his salary was coming off the books no matter what. Without Gordon's TPE (which we got by helping MJ sign Gordon without blowing up his team salary) we couldn't have gotten Fournier from Orlando, and then Fournier's move to NY rolled it forward to this TPE because we helped Dolan not blow up his team salary. Wheels within wheels.
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The Boston Celtics currently possess 10 traded player exceptions, and these are all of them
Justin Quinn
Mon, February 14, 2022, 5:08 PM·2 min read
Traded player exceptions (TPEs) — the “coupon” that allows teams to complete a non-simultaneous trade months after the first players end up being dealt into another team’s cap space — are increasingly an important tool in today’s NBA, and the Boston Celtics have been one of the league’s most frequent and creative users of TPEs as a team-building tool in recent years.
And at the 2022 NBA trade deadline, the team created several new TPEs to add to their rolling collection of trade exceptions, good for a year in most circumstances (the pandemic upset that a bit), several of which could be put to use by Boston this coming offseason.
Let’s take a quick look at the TPEs Boston has to work with — and for how long.
Moses Brown TPE - $500,000 (expires June 27, 2022)
Kemba Walker TPE- $1,024,467 (expires May 17, 2022)
Tristan Thompson TPE - $1,440,549 (expires July 7, 2022)
Enes Freedom TPE - $1,669,178 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
Bruno Fernando TPE - $1,782,621 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
PJ Dozier TPE - $1,910,860 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
Bol Bol TPE - $2,161,152 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
Dennis Schroder TPE - $5,890,000 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
Juancho Hernangomez TPE - $6,907,815 (expires Jan. 19 ,2023)
Evan Fournier TPE - $17,142,857 (expires July 18, 2022)
Bob
MY NOTE: I suspect the smaller ones will expire without being used, and that's ok. Could Brad use them to unload a lower salaried player for a higher salaried, more veteran player (i.e. trade a player on a rookie contract for a veteran on the mid-level exemption)? Sure, and that might be good, but probably not needle-moving since any rookie that's looking good isn't likely to be traded because he's good and cheap and any rookie that isn't looking good isn't going to be appealing to another team enough to give up a quality veteran.
Moses Brown TPE - $500,000 (expires June 27, 2022)
Kemba Walker TPE- $1,024,467 (expires May 17, 2022)
Tristan Thompson TPE - $1,440,549 (expires July 7, 2022)
All three of these TPEs expire in 3-4 months. The Kemba TPE probably won't be used since it is before the draft and before free agency but after the trade deadline. So how would/could you use it? Thompson's may be used because it expires post-draft and post-free agency opening season.
Another grouping might be the ones in the $1.5M - $2M range. Not enough to land a quality player by themselves but if you need to add some money to a bigger trade to get the salaries within 25% of each other they might be helpful. For example, Bol Bol's $2.1M actually counts like $2.7M if you're just trying to get within 25% of another number.
The Group 2 TPEs that I see as qualifying for this are:
Enes Freedom TPE - $1,669,178 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
Bruno Fernando TPE - $1,782,621 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
PJ Dozier TPE - $1,910,860 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
Bol Bol TPE - $2,161,152 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
Unlike the smaller ones in Group 1 these all expire in 2023, so there's plenty of opportunities for Brad to use them. More $, more time = more utile.
The bigger ones, however, are something else. They can be broken up into multiple bites. I believe they can also be used to facilitate trades for other teams (we contribute some of the TPEs to their deal and we receive a player and/or picks in return).
Which TPEs fall into the last category, Group 3, in my opinion?
Dennis Schroder TPE - $5,890,000 (expires Feb. 10, 2023)
Juancho Hernangomez TPE - $6,907,815 (expires Jan. 19 ,2023)
Evan Fournier TPE - $17,142,857 (expires July 18, 2022)
The Fournier TPE isn't as big as Gordon Hayward's $28M one but, if you add it to another player's salary, you can land yourself a pretty big fish. It expires in 2022, but after free agency opens and the salary cap is set and teams are jockeying to stay under it.
Another consideration to remember is that while TPEs expire, they can be rolled forward. Some of Gordon's TPE was used to get Fournier, and now Fournier's free agency signing with NYK was manipulated into a TPE with a one-year life span from there for us. That all happened due to Caponomics. The Knicks needed the relief, not us, we just gained by giving them the cap room to sign Fournier when we were going to lose him anyway. This $17M TPE is, basically, free money to us since Fournier was gone and his salary was coming off the books no matter what. Without Gordon's TPE (which we got by helping MJ sign Gordon without blowing up his team salary) we couldn't have gotten Fournier from Orlando, and then Fournier's move to NY rolled it forward to this TPE because we helped Dolan not blow up his team salary. Wheels within wheels.
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bobheckler- Posts : 62491
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Re: The Boston Celtics currently possess 10 traded player exceptions, and these are all of them
Since the Celtics look set to finish this season below the tax line the owners should be ready to open their wallets and let Brad complete his roster in the off season. We do not know what other teams are planning to do until after the season ends. If some team needs to dump a contract to make room for another deal we could benefit. As long as we do not just use the TPE's for useless parts that would be good. We may be able to get some draft picks as well.
dboss- Posts : 19200
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Re: The Boston Celtics currently possess 10 traded player exceptions, and these are all of them
All this sort of reminds me of the expiring contract of Theo Ratliff. Seemed like that was carried forward for 10 years or so!
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bobc33- Posts : 13864
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Re: The Boston Celtics currently possess 10 traded player exceptions, and these are all of them
We have 10 TPEs and seven of them are (more or less) are equal to or less than the value of a 5-6-7 years in the league vet minimum contract (first season). That's what we want, right? To add a seasoned vet player or three?
So, we can just outright sign a seasoned vet for this kind of money and we don't have to deal with another team to do it. I tried to search for any occurrence where a player was traded using such a small TEP, but came up empty.
Anyway, I believe that it is likely that the seven smaller TPEs will wither and die on the vine.
On the other hand, the bigger three? Out of the three, the biggest one expires first, Brad better get on it right after the season is over.
So, we can just outright sign a seasoned vet for this kind of money and we don't have to deal with another team to do it. I tried to search for any occurrence where a player was traded using such a small TEP, but came up empty.
Anyway, I believe that it is likely that the seven smaller TPEs will wither and die on the vine.
On the other hand, the bigger three? Out of the three, the biggest one expires first, Brad better get on it right after the season is over.
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