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Post by 112288 Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:48 pm

Celtics Wrap: Boston’s Win Streak Remains Alive After Win Vs. Pelicans
The Celtics win streak lives on



NESN by Gio Rivera

The Boston Celtics notched their ninth consecutive victory, defeating the New Orleans Pelicans 117-109 at Smoothie King Center on Friday.

Remaining the NBA leaders in wins, the Celtics improved to 13-3 on the season, while the Pelicans fell to 9-7 and end their three-game win streak.

ONE BIG TAKEAWAY
The Celtics walked off the floor the same way they entered — the hottest team in the NBA.

On Nov. 5, during a 133-118 win against the New York Knicks, the Celtics set a franchise record after hitting 27 total 3-point field goals — a record that stood for over two decades. Against the Pelicans, a similar hot hand from the outside made an appearance from Celtics shooters. In the first half alone, the Celtics shot 51.9% from 3-point territory and connected on 14-of-27 attempts, tying a franchise record, as noted by NBC Sports Boston.

Everyone in the Celtics starting lineup contributed at least two of Boston’s 20 total 3-pointers each. Derrick White led that charge, hitting a season-high six 3-pointers.

Despite the Pelicans battling back to bring the game within six with 5:58 minutes remaining in the fourth quarter, the Celtics proved why they’ve been the league’s best. Boston struggled, but closed the door despite committing 17 turnovers — including nine in the third quarter — to New Orleans’ 10.

STARS OF THE GAME
— White had himself a night, yet again. The 28-year-old veteran led scored 26 points while totaling three rebounds and two blocks while shooting 9-for-12 from the field and 6-for-8 from 3-point range.


— Al Horford delivered a strong showing while doing a little of everything, scoring 18 points while going 7-for-8 from the field with four 3-pointers alongside seven rebounds and two assists.

— Brandon Ingram led the way for the Pelicans’ push, scoring 25 points on 9-of-19 shooting from the field along with two rebounds and seven assists.

WAGER WATCH
DraftKings Sportsbook set the over/under of White’s 3-point field goal total at 1.5 with +105 odds on the Over. White took little to no time clearing those odds, finishing the first two quarters while knocking down four shots in from beyond the arc en route to a 14-point first half. A $100 bet on White would’ve resulted in a $205 total payout.

UP NEXT
The Celtics remain on the road, back in action against the Chicago Bulls on Monday. Tipoff from United Center is scheduled for 8 p.m. ET.

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Post by 112288 Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:49 pm

THE BEAT GOES ON!

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Post by sinus007 Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:10 pm

Hi,
It was a good win. Against a good team even without Williamson.
The game ball goes obviously to White - he was everywhere, especially behind 3pt line.
On the negative side I don't understand why at times Celtics and some individual players were trying to walk through a brick wall over and over again. JB as a prime example: you're not a good ball handler so, if your drives to the hoop didn't work once, twice (which led to turnovers and the other team getting back to the game) try something else; and don't forget that you have 4 more people who are more than happy to help you.
Continuing on this subject, I don't understand CJ: why don't you take a time-out and cut the ugly at the bud.
I hope it's just a growing pain.
Overall, 13-3 is an excellent 1/5 of the season.

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Post by cowens/oldschool Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:19 pm

I love the depth of this still young team, without 2 starters and with either J having a bad game, we still have no problem cruising to wins. Tatum was off, Brown had a lot of sloppy turnovers, but White stepped up. Hauser and Brogden off, didn’t matter. Tatum learning how to impact the game with his shot off, 10 assists. We don’t need our A-game to beat playoff teams.

Jaylen with almost a triple double, had some sloppy dribbling, but some great bully ball; had a Moses Malone moment and on a hard drive, got knocked down, but the guy that fouled him clearly got the worst of it. Love the way he defends points, he made life for McCollum very difficult and love his defense in the paint on bigs, fearless mixing it up with the big boys.

As good as we are this stretch, we will amp it up even more. Tatum is due for more monster games as is Brown, Timelord is on his way back. There are so many players that can hit shots and move the ball, Brogden, White, Hauser, Pritch, GWill, Al. Smart will be back soon, he knows all he has to do is move the ball, he doesn’t need to score. This team is going to be even take it up another notch real soon.

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Post by dbrown4 Sat Nov 19, 2022 1:34 pm

I don't know if anyone was listening to the homer's broadcast/play-by-play for NOP, but in their own gentle way they finally made me realize I have no idea what I'm watching and what/how the Celtics are doing what they are doing right now. Thank goodness my son is going to be here tomorrow for Thanksgiving week and I'm going to sit down with him and have him tell me/show me how to watch a basketball game and how to pick apart game film. I never played organized ball so I really shouldn't know what's going on. But these guys did a great job of pointing out everything the Celtics were doing right, what the Pelicans were doing wrong, how they were forcing the Pelicans into leaving our guys wide open by forced switching that after about three of those switches, if you're not in constant communication with your teammates, someone is taking a practice 3 or dunk as you sit there watching your man take that shot you should have been guarding.

Those guys did use the words I've been thinking and saying...practice shots. That's what the Celtics are taking and making. From anywhere and everywhere at will. Hi Will.

But just watching the game at regular speed, everything flows so very smoothly for Boston and for the never organized ball player like myself, it's a blur. There is no panic in this team....Ever that I've seen so far.

Whatever Derrick White is eating for breakfast, I want that as well. Something's gotten into him. He's another problem who's not on any other team's scouting report at least for now. But that's not what the rest of the league wants to hear or see right now. It was just try to contain the 2 J's. That didn't work. The only reprieve other teams get from that is when both J's don't show up on the same night. This happens more than it should at this stage of their careers but it doesn't matter. Pick your poison. And as as the other "Derrick Whites" ramp up, ala GW, Doogie, Brogden, P-Squared, et al, teams have no choice but to stay stuck to their man with no double teaming allowed. Again. Pick your poison. You're going to lose. Oh. And I almost forgot about RWIII. You see what I mean.

I haven't watched the 4th quarter only to know we gave up 11 points to win by 8. Don't know what went wrong there but that's not going to happen with everyone playing. Saw the high TO's. Again, that's ok if it's because we're moving the ball. Sloppiness? I'm not so forgiving.

Another quality team bites the the dust. It appears there are a couple of revenge games coming up, one that dates back to last season with DAL. CHI up first on Monday night in CHI. I think we will see a different outcome since the last time we played. Bulls now 6-10 but that means nothing.

The Celtics are playing like they don't know they've won 9-in-a-row or know how good they are. They could care less. Teams get on winning streaks and they pull in the horns. This team is not doing that at all. They have clearly upgraded the steamroller they were using at the end of last season and into the playoffs. Keep it rolling!!

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Post by bobheckler Sat Nov 19, 2022 1:35 pm

20-46 from 3, 43.5%. 86 total fgas. Once again > 50% of our fgas are from beyond the arc. As much as I hate to have to admit it this is working for us. We have the #1 record in the NBA and are "hotter than fish grease" (this infers that there are various levels of grease heat. Is fish grease hotter than bacon grease, etc? Fish grease has a smoke point of 375 degrees. Bacon grease has a smoke point of 374 degrees. French fries oil is 325 degrees and Krispy Kreme fries their donuts at around 350 degrees. So I guess fish grease is pretty up there).

Another Derrick White podium game. Ever since Brogdon and Smart went down he has been hotter than a plasma cutter (30,000 degrees Fahrenheit, which is still cooler than the interior of the sun, so there's still room for growth for White). 2 blocks, both on CJ McCollum, who is no pushover.




A blistering 40 point 1st quarter is what did it. Remember the days of icy-cold starts? Nah, I can't either, it's been so long. A very healthy 24 fgas in that 1st, 62.5% from the field and 10-16 from 3. 24 fgas, 16 of them from 3. That's insane, to me, but it sure seems to work. Big Al 4-4 from 3 in the 1st to power that.

Jaylen with a fabulous stat line, except for the 7 turnovers. Is this his ceiling? I hope not, of course, but this is the one area where he hasn't made much progress in over the years.

Jayson with 10 assists and 3 turnovers. Not an efficient shooting night for him, but he has been working extra hard at replacing Smart's floor generalship while he's out. I think we've seen this as a developing pattern over the past week or more. When he's focusing on his passing he doesn't shoot that well and when he's in scoring mode he seems to get a little sloppy with the ball and turns it over. Nevertheless, he's making progress into becoming as complete a player as anybody in the league.

Another hallmark of this team is its high assist-to-fgm ratios. Last night was 28 assists:41fgm. That's 68%, which is excellent. Our season-to-date number is 26.5apg:42.4fgm, 62.5%.

It's still very early, of course, but we have a 1 game lead in the loss column over Milwaukee and a 2 game lead in the loss column over Portland. Our 7.2ppg MoV is #1 in the league. That means we're not just winning but beating them decisively.

Our #1 offense is now #2 (120.2ppg is just behind Sacto's 120.3ppg) but our defense has crawled its way up to 16th @ 113ppg given up. Remember when we were 23rd or something down in the lower range of the league? And RWill is just weeks away.

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401468386


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Post by cowens/oldschool Sat Nov 19, 2022 2:36 pm

dbrown4 wrote:I don't know if anyone was listening to the homer's broadcast/play-by-play for NOP, but in their own gentle way they finally made me realize I have no idea what I'm watching and what/how the Celtics are doing what they are doing right now.  Thank goodness my son is going to be here tomorrow for Thanksgiving week and I'm going to sit down with him and have him tell me/show me how to watch a basketball game and how to pick apart game film.  I never played organized ball so I really shouldn't know what's going on.  But these guys did a great job of pointing out everything the Celtics were doing right, what the Pelicans were doing wrong, how they were forcing the Pelicans into leaving our guys wide open by forced switching that after about three of those switches, if you're not in constant communication with your teammates, someone is taking a practice 3 or dunk as you sit there watching your man take that shot you should have been guarding.  

Those guys did use the words I've been thinking and saying...practice shots.  That's what the Celtics are taking and making.  From anywhere and everywhere at will.  Hi Will.    

But just watching the game at regular speed, everything flows so very smoothly for Boston and for the never organized ball player like myself, it's a blur.  There is no panic in this team....Ever that I've seen so far.

Whatever Derrick White is eating for breakfast, I want that as well.  Something's gotten into him.  He's another problem who's not on any other team's scouting report at least for now.  But that's not what the rest of the league wants to hear or see right now.  It was just try to contain the 2 J's.  That didn't work.  The only reprieve other teams get from that is when both J's don't show up on the same night.  This happens more than it should at this stage of their careers but it doesn't matter.  Pick your poison.  And as as the other "Derrick Whites" ramp up, ala GW, Doogie, Brogden, P-Squared, et al, teams have no choice but to stay stuck to their man with no double teaming allowed.  Again.  Pick your poison.  You're going to lose.  Oh.  And I almost forgot about RWIII.  You see what I mean.  

I haven't watched the 4th quarter only to know we gave up 11 points to win by 8.  Don't know what went wrong there but that's not going to happen with everyone playing.  Saw the high TO's.  Again, that's ok if it's because we're moving the ball.  Sloppiness?  I'm not so forgiving.  

Another quality team bites the the dust.  It appears there are a couple of revenge games coming up, one that dates back to last season with DAL.  CHI up first on Monday night in CHI.  I think we will see a different outcome since the last time we played.  Bulls now 6-10 but that means nothing.  

The Celtics are playing like they don't know they've won 9-in-a-row or know how good they are.  They could care less.  Teams get on winning streaks and they pull in the horns.  This team is not doing that at all.  They have clearly upgraded the steamroller they were using at the end of last season and into the playoffs.  Keep it rolling!!

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Dbrown I saw that same feed, the Pelicans feed, who were those guys? The 2nd guy, not the play by play guy, was great and right on with all his breakdowns. Loved how much they were complimenting our guys, did you happen to catch that halftime magic show? What a hottie that assistant was lol 🤣😂🍀🍀💪

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Post by dbrown4 Sat Nov 19, 2022 4:04 pm

I did not but will watch halftime show the second time through!!

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Post by Ktron Sat Nov 19, 2022 4:46 pm

All: The Pelicans TV broadcast team consists of PBP - Joel Meyers. The color analyst is Antonio Daniels (Retired San Antonio Spur)  

I’m not surprised at the positive response from some of you regarding their broadcast.
Joel Meyers has done PBP for many teams throughout his career and I consider him one of the best. (Nice lil Short story is coming) He also can be heard occasionally on Sirius XM NBA radio.

Antonio Daniels a former NBA Player with the Spurs and a few others is in my opinion one of the smartest analyst in the NBA. His voice kind of annoys me but it so easy to overlook because his knowledge of the game and the content he delivers is superb.
Antonio is also on Sirius XM NBA Radio from 12-3p Central time. Poor Antonio is paired with Mr. Microphone Rick Kamla. Its a hard listen because Kamla is a 53 year old man who sounds more like a 12 year old Middle Schooler. He used to do NBA TV and the Timberwolves PBP. He’s an acquired taste for some but as for me? Sound down music up.

Quick little Diddy regarding Joel Meyers. When you listen to him doing games or SportsTalk radio he always comes off as one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet. Never talks down to the audience and is very engaging. For some its an act but not so with Joel Meyers.
3 years ago I was getting on a flight from Dallas to San Antonio. As I walked to my seat I saw Joel Meyers sitting at a window seat and talking on his cell.
I went over to say hello but because he was on the phone I just smiled and waved. He waved his hand and kept talking.
Shortly before take off, Meyers gets out of his seat and comes back to where i was sitting and stuck his hand out and said “Hi, my name is Joel, I’m sorry that I couldn’t say much when you approached earlier because I was on a call”. He asked my name and then asked what I did for a living and I told him. He said “its so great to meet you, They're telling me to take my seat but I’ll see you in San Antonio”. Now usually when people say that it really means goodbye but not this time. After the flight while standing in baggage claim waiting on my bag, Joel came over and said “Hey do you have a minute? I would love to talk shop with you”. I of course said YES! We talked for another 30-40 minutes about broadcasting, Sports, in particular basketball and he also shared some of his personal life with me.
Its a moment in my life that I’ll never forget. There are lots of folks in Broadcasting that are direct opposites of a Joel Meyers- lots. It was so refreshing and a trait that I try to emulate when meeting new folks in and out of my line of work.  Joel Meyers, HOF Broadcaster and one classy human being.

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Post by worcester Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:14 am

I really enjoy Frank Isola, but Joel Myers is a whole other kind of broadcasting greatness. His voice is 100% perfectly resonant. His bball IQ is of the highest orde, but what really sets him apart is his level of human decency. He is very kind-hearted in his comments to listeners and the way he talks about players. Plus he loves jazz. In short he is a real mensch and my favorite Sirius XM NBA broadcaster. Ktron is right about Antonio Daniels. He has a squeaky voice and a subpar co-'host in Kamla, but Anyonio's bball analyses are very insightful. He has the goods.
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Post by worcester Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:16 am

I really enjoy Frank Isola, but Joel Myers is a whole other kind of broadcasting greatness. His voice is 100% perfectly resonant. His bball IQ is of the highest order, but what really sets him apart is his level of human decency. He is very kind-hearted in his comments to listeners and the way he talks about players. Plus he loves jazz. In short he is a real mensch and my favorite Sirius XM NBA broadcaster. Ktron is right about Antonio Daniels. He has a squeaky voice and a subpar co-'host in Kamla, but Antonio's bball analyses are very insightful. He has the goods.
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Post by cowens/oldschool Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:14 am

Great story and insight guys, Antonio Daniels has a voice similar to Avery Johnson. His analysis was spot on, really enjoyed his commentary, exact opposite of that idiot who is constantly saying he has no idea what is going on. Loved the way Antonio pointed out how we were setting screens away from the ball and they wouldn’t be able to keep up with us, that as the ball moved a shooter would be wide open as the ball moved side to side. Then in worse case scenario we could always get a J attacking the basket leading to a finish or a wide open kick out. He loves our offense and personnel. I also remember his game well, he had a game similar to Alvin Robertson and Marcus Smart, with worse offense than both.

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Post by dbrown4 Sun Nov 20, 2022 8:24 am

Ktron,

Great story! And that's EXACTLY how he came across on the broadcast! He made the game much more interesting and engaging. I've listened to basketball games all my life but none ever came across like he and Antonio Daniels do. And I've watched far more game than I've listened to. But that was a great game in which for me to record and re-watch and re-listen. Priceless. As always, thank you for the insight.

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Post by Ktron Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:59 pm

Meyers also has a love for different foods and talks about it when traveling from city to city.
What’s really great about him is that he comes across as a regular guy who could be a neighbor. He talks to his listeners and viewers not at them and his sharing of life stories while staying in focus on the topic of discussion or while doing play by play is amazing.

Sharing yourself with your audience raises likability.
When Oprah went into TV syndicated talk many moons ago she used to talk about Stedman, and her best friend Gayle during her show and I always thought, who the hell cares about your personal life?
Of course I learned later the importance of relatability, of engagement and putting yourself in the viewers world by being accessible.
“Hey, she’s rich and famous but does and likes normal stuff like I do”.


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Post by atcross Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:54 pm

sinus007 wrote:Hi,

Continuing on this subject, I don't understand CJ: why don't you take a time-out and cut the ugly at the bud.
I hope it's just a growing pain.
Overall, 13-3 is an excellent 1/5 of the season.

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If this were a team of rookies that would make sense. "Here's what you're doing wrong, boys." But this isn't a rookie, college, or high school team. Our guys have been playing together for a few years now and if you call a TO they know what needs to be done before it's said. Knowing there's no TO they should figure it out. Probably just need to stay calm and step up the defensive intensity. Save that momentum stopping TO for when you really need it.

Jaylen seems to agree:

“It challenges us not only for the situation at hand, but also challenges us to be better down the line,” he explained, via CLNS Media. “I think we’ve been in the NBA long enough to know how to get to our spots, how to correct some of our mistakes.”

“We’ve got a poised team, so that’s a lot of trust from our head coach that he instills in our players and in us to figure it out. So to be honest, that’s what you want as a player, and you want that relationship with your head coach.”

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