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Celtics Wrap: Boston Bounces Back By Blowing Out Mavericks
Boston finally survived a Luka Doncic onslaught

NESN by Keagan Stiefel

The Boston Celtics rebounded from their first loss in three weeks with a dominant victory over the Dallas Mavericks, 125-112, at TD Garden on Wednesday night.

The Celtics improved to 14-4 on the year, while the Mavericks dropped to 9-8.


ONE BIG TAKEAWAY
The Celtics came out flat in their Monday loss to the Chicago Bulls at United Center, missing open shots and reverting back to their ways of the NBA Finals and turning the ball over. The opposite was true Wednesday.

Boston came out firing on all cylinders against Dallas, pouring it on early and often. The Celtics had scored 70 points by halftime on 54% shooting from the field and 52% shooting from beyond the arc — a stark contrast from their 44/38% performance in Chicago.

The Celtics and Mavericks both played pretty basic defense on each other’s superstars, blitzing Luka Doncic and Jayson Tatum with double teams and running shooters off their spots. It didn’t really work for either side, as both men showed off their ability to make plays and get others involved, the C’s just knocked down their shots. Sam Hauser and Grant Williams, the Celtics’ best three-point shooters, combined to go 1-for-6 from 3-point land, with everyone else combining to go 16-for-27. It was just that kind of night for Boston.

Though the Celtics let a 27-point lead dwindle down to nine in the fourth quarter, the outcome was never truly in question with the Mavericks eventually running out of time.

STARS OF THE GAME
— Tatum did a little bit of everything for Boston, scoring 37 points, grabbing 13 boards and dishing out five assists. The key to his game? Getting to the line and finishing 13-for-15 from the charity stripe. He also sealed the game with a key block on Doncic.

— Doncic was the sole reason this game wasn’t a 50-point blowout. He had 42 points on 17-for-28 shooting, adding eight rebounds and nine assists.

— Marcus Smart’s evolution as a playmaker has been something special to watch this season. The veteran finished with 13 points and eight assists, playing tremendous perimeter defense as always.

WAGER WATCH
Bettors had the opportunity to make some easy money Wednesday, as DraftKings Sportsbook set the odds of Tatum eclipsing 38.5 total points, rebounds and assists at -115 prior to the start of the game. He hit 40 with seven minutes remaining in the third quarter. A $100 bet would have paid out $186.96.

UP NEXT
The Celtics will continue their extended homestand Friday night against the Sacramento Kings. Tipoff from TD Garden is scheduled for 8:00 p.m. ET.

Great start led to a very big victory, we were locked in at the beginning with playoff like intensity both ends. Jaylen and Luka with an intense battle in the first quarter with 15 and 13 points. We were running hard with pace with some real good strong finishes. We showed some of our vintage offense in scoring 70 points for the half, great movement; attacking the rim with both J’s looking majestic and Brogden, Al and White all on from 3. This intense type of play can overwhelm anybody.

Basketball being a game of runs, Luka continued to carry them and started getting others involved and their defense tightened, forcing us into a lot of iso. Lead went from 28 to 12, Christian Wood started pummeling us inside. Eventually 2 J’s came thru, building back up lead and carrying us home. Great response to the Bulls game, we’re still in first place and the 2 J’s are the highest scoring duo in the league.

This is the most fun I have had watching baskketball since 2007-2008. Coach Joe has unleashed one beast of a team.

worcester wrote:This is the most fun I have had watching baskketball since 2007-2008. Coach Joe has unleashed one beast of a team.

I loved watching that team defend, that was a historic defense, as good as any in history of the game and might have even been better the next year….if only KG didn’t go down

JM simply has changed the Celtics fundamentally and not seen since Tommy Heinsohn coached the team in the 1970's.

He has unleashed the athleticism and speed of the the teams players and has focused on a run and gun offense. Gone are the days of walking the ball up and then setting up your offense. It is ball movement right from the start by taking the ball out quickly, causing fast break opportunities.  

It is ball in motion, touching 2-4 players hands before someone has a shot.  It is attack the paint and the rim with a plan of attack instead of iso ball BS that we have seen in the past that is so predictable.

Defending teams have very little time to set their defense up and key on our weaknesses. We play such an up tempo game that we force the defending players on other teams to get tired out!

No, there is a difference, a big difference we have not seen in 40+ years since Tommy coached the team.  If they played like this in the finals last year they would have won.

Imme did bring some disipline and focused on defense, but JM has unleashed the talent and took it to a whole new level!

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Even though Luka scored at will, Sam played good D on him as did Jaylen. Marcus has really learned how to be a pg...such creative passing at times...and he has cut back on chucking 3's. Brogdon and White are so good. Such a pity for Payton who plays his heart out whenever he gets on the floor. Danny deserves credit for snagging the J's, Grant and RWill, but Brad has really shored up the bench...and getting Al back for Kemba was a master stroke. So good to be a Celtics fan.

cowens/oldschool wrote:

worcester wrote:This is the most fun I have had watching baskketball since 2007-2008. Coach Joe has unleashed one beast of a team.

I loved watching that team defend, that was a historic defense, as good as any in history of the game and might have even been better the next year….if only KG didn’t go down

+1 Cowens. If KG didn't go down I think we would have repeated.

However, this team is so much fun to watch. Tommy Heinsohn would have loved this uptempo pace and the beautiful passing and spacing. Go Celtics and Happy Thanksgiving to all!!!

Boy, we really GOBBLED the Mavs up, didn't we?  

Is Luka fun to watch or what?!  I'm not going to compare him to Larry, that's not fair, but he is absolute living proof you don't need to run fast or jump high to be a great basketball player.  17-28, 3-8 from 3.  28 fgas, 20 from 2.  See that, Jayson?  You don't have to launch from the arc everytime to drop 42.  8 rebounds and 9 assists.  Just 2 rebounds and an assist from an amazing triple-double.  Fine with me, it's still close enough to be amazing.  He got whatever he wanted last night regardless of who Joe put on him.  I was surprised at how he was able to post up Jaylen.  Jaylen's only 1" shorter, has a 7' wingspan and is uber-athletic and yet Luka knows how to bump his man off him just enough to get that 1/2" of blue sky he needs to see the rim.  In that, at least, he's like Larry.  Nothing against Trae Young but Mark Cuban should be arrested for Grand Theft - Player.  I rarely gush about a player not in green but Luka?  Absolutely.  Wow.




I expected Dinwiddie to explode once he got out from under the spector of Kyrie and was given a full-time starting job.  Didn't happen and I don't know why not.  It's not like Luka's a bad passer.

Jayson had a great game too with 37/15/5, but it was his 15 ftas that won this game for us and is pushing him into the MVP conversation.  He's now averaging 30.6ppg and 8.8ftas/game.  In IT's MVP-conversation year of 2016-2017 he averaged 28.9ppg and 8.5ftas/game.  Unless you are Steph Curry, taking >11 3pt fgas/game and shooting 45.5% on them in 2015-2016, there is a definite correlation between ftas and the MVP.  King Tatutum indeed, Worcester.  :30 of the highlight film shows Tatum really putting defenders into a blender.




And, while everybody oohs and ahhs about Jayson Tatum, Robin dropped a quiet, almost unnoticeable because he was outshone by the Luka/Jayson duel, 31 on 13-18 and only 2-3 from 3.  He had 13 points at the half, so an 18 point 2nd half by Jaylen Brown.  Jaylen's averaging 25.6ppg this year.  Can the man get to another All-Star game, for Pete's Sake?!  Remember what an awful frito shooter he was when he came into the league?  He's now 80%.  He's only getting to the line 4.8/game, and he deserved more whistles last night than he got.  If he ups his ft% to 85% next year (or this?) and a couple more ftas/game and he'll be a perennial lock for an All-Star berth.  Regardless, the numbers he's putting up are All-Star worthy already.  I think some of Jaylen's "problem" is that he glides in for so many layups they're not impressive enough.  He's just too strong, gets his shoulders past his man and does the same layup all of us practiced when we were kids.  Not Sportcenter stuff, but 2 points.  Watch the highlight film below.  See how many layups, especially left-handed ones, Jaylen took last night.




Smart with 13/9 and only 3 TOs.  5-9, 3-4 from 3.  When he plays like this we are very, very hard to beat because we really have no glaring offensive weak link in our first 8 players.

How did Christian Wood not get drafted?  The same way Sam Hauser didn't but James Wiseman, currently toiling with the Santa Cruz Warriors and not the Golden State Warriors, was drafted #2.  It's a crap shoot, although there's not much of an excuse for blowing a #2 pick.

Chris Forsberg @ChrisForsberg_
about 35 minutes ago
Jayson Tatum when defended by Luka Doncic: 15 PTS, 5-8 FG, 1:57 matchup time Luka when defended by Tatum: 2 PTS, 1-2 FG, 2 TO, 1 BLK, 1:12 Defensive data is imperfect. But NBA tracking had Celtics scoring 31 points on 12-19 FG vs Luka. Tatum allowed 6 points on 3-5 FG, 2 BLK


Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.


Bob


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Gotta admit I was a little nervous going into this game. Take that back. I was very nervous going into this game. Why? Easy-Luka. Luka Doncic! He is a maniac.
However, after watching last night, he can score 60 and they’ll still lose. Because outside of Dinwiddy, he has little to no help. I don’t think that team gets to the WFC without making some moves before the trading deadline. So I shouldn't have been nervous at all. That Dallas roster is nowhere near close to the C’s level.
Heard Stephen A say while watching the replay that the rest of the Dallas roster gets checks too and they need to start earning them. (Can’t believe I just quoted Stephen A) Speaking of—

Matters of Media

(Bob H keeps telling me to turn the sound down but I can’t I have to watch and listen good or bad.)

There was 3:50 left in the 3rd Q and we were up 26. Scal asks Mike, “Think we should start pulling our starters now”!? Mike says “..”We’re still in the 3rd quarter, but”.. and then mentioned something  
that I just missed hearing but I’m pretty certain it wasn’t a “Yeah lets do it!  Scal cuts in says (not verbatim) Think we should Mike?
Mike goes back to PBP without a response.
I dont need to go into what happened right after that dumbass question but I can tell you that when it got down to 10, Scal says “We got a ball game Mike”-Duh..

I then watched the replay on ESPN and Mike Breen referring to the score, says to Doris, “They're getting an absolute beat down right now. Do they fight back? Are they going to fight back tonight”?
Doris says “Thats a great question. Luka is obviously having a great game but body language, all of the guys in white jerseys are spread across the floor and not communicating. It tells you a lot. The group is not cohesive yet”.
NEVER did they ever discuss Boston pulling their starters with that much time left.
I complain about Doris at times but as a game analyst she knows the deal. Scal does not and HE played in the NBA.
How Scal fixed his mouth to even suggest pulling starters that early is beyond comprehension.
Violating listener expectations is his specialty!

Bob I’m impressed with those simple finishes on Jaylen’s drives, you still have to get there and have the touch to finish; he’s one of the premier finishers in the L, as is Tatum. I can’t think of 2 wings on the same team that are more dynamic or better finishers than the J’s. Both these guys are in the conversation/comparable to any of the all time great dunkers IMHO. Agreed Jaylen doesn’t get enough calls on many drives, such a blessing to have 2 gifted 2 way wings like this. White and Brogden are good finishers, Smart is finishing better as is GWill. This team is being unleashed into an offensive juggernaut that can go after you so many different ways. Way to coach Joe!!!

Celtics17 wrote:

cowens/oldschool wrote:

worcester wrote:This is the most fun I have had watching baskketball since 2007-2008. Coach Joe has unleashed one beast of a team.

I loved watching that team defend, that was a historic defense, as good as any in history of the game and might have even been better the next year….if only KG didn’t go down

+1 Cowens. If KG didn't go down I think we would have repeated.

However, this team is so much fun to watch. Tommy Heinsohn would have loved this uptempo pace and the beautiful passing and spacing. Go Celtics and Happy Thanksgiving to all!!!

I know we would have repeated, my eye test tells me that 09 team was even more dominant at the time of KG’s injury than the year before. I remember being so disappointed going to a game at MSG and it was over by the middle of the 3rd, thought I didn’t get my money’s worth as there were so many games we just toyed with teams and the starters rested in the 4th.

Ktron wrote:Gotta admit I was a little nervous going into this game. Take that back. I was very nervous going into this game. Why? Easy-Luka. Luka Doncic! He is a maniac.
However, after watching last night, he can score 60 and they’ll still lose. Because outside of Dinwiddy, he has little to no help. I don’t think that team gets to the WFC without making some moves before the trading deadline. So I shouldn't have been nervous at all. That Dallas roster is nowhere near close to the C’s level.
Heard Stephen A say while watching the replay that the rest of the Dallas roster gets checks too and they need to start earning them. (Can’t believe I just quoted Stephen A) Speaking of—

Matters of Media

(Bob H keeps telling me to turn the sound down but I can’t I have to watch and listen good or bad.)

There was 3:50 left in the 3rd Q and we were up 26. Scal asks Mike, “Think we should start pulling our starters now”!? Mike says “..”We’re still in the 3rd quarter, but”.. and then mentioned something  
that I just missed hearing but I’m pretty certain it wasn’t a “Yeah lets do it!  Scal cuts in says (not verbatim) Think we should Mike?
Mike goes back to PBP without a response.
I dont need to go into what happened right after that dumbass question but I can tell you that when it got down to 10, Scal says “We got a ball game Mike”-Duh..

I then watched the replay on ESPN and Mike Breen referring to the score, says to Doris, “They're getting an absolute beat down right now. Do they fight back? Are they going to fight back tonight”?
Doris says “Thats a great question. Luka is obviously having a great game but body language, all of the guys in white jerseys are spread across the floor and not communicating. It tells you a lot. The group is not cohesive yet”.
NEVER did they ever discuss Boston pulling their starters with that much time left.
I complain about Doris at times but as a game analyst she knows the deal. Scal does not and HE played in the NBA.
How Scal fixed his mouth to even suggest pulling starters that early is beyond comprehension.
Violating listener expectations is his specialty!

Ktron

You are right on all accounts. I only watched the espn feed. I don't always agree with Doris Burke, but I think she is a fine analyst and runs rings around Scal. Living in Jersey I am happy to be able to get the Celtics games via League Pass, but I suffer through Scal. I have thought about muting the volume, but then you lose the game feel.

I watch on Streameast.io and get the national feed on Celtics games. Doris and Scal are in different talent universes. Doris is super. Scal not so much.

I just love how King Tatutum learned to drive inside consistently for easy buckets and more foul call. He is on a whole new level now. Same too with JB. And they both are figuring out when to dish to perimeter players when they get blocked inside. JT is a bit more advanced on that score.

worcester wrote:I watch on Streameast.io and get the national feed on Celtics games. Doris and Scal are in different talent universes. Doris is super. Scal not so much.

I just love how King Tatutum learned to drive inside consistently for easy buckets and more foul call. He is on a whole new level now. Same too with JB. And they both are figuring out when to dish to perimeter players when they get blocked inside. JT is a bit more advanced on that score.

worcester etal,

Adding to your streaming suggestion I use https://reddit.rnbastreams.com/


Bob


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Thanks for that Bob.

That's much better. When the ball moves, great things happen.

I like the way BOS and CJ Old Schooled it by going Inside-Out early on. Then Brodgen came in and hit a couple of 3's and 3-ball target practice started for real.

Per the announcers, this was CJ's doing in that the Mavs have just as much trouble in the middle as we currently do. Celtics attacked the lane, got fouled, made free throws and an 85% clip. Jason alone went to the line 15 times. IMHBAO, CJ's outsmarted and out-coached Ime at this point. Please lock him down as the new head coach. Give it to him for Christmas.

It has been great watching these games with my sons. My middle child is the AAU baller. Among other things, I learned from him and when the announcer mentioned about "playing/guarding their feet" which just like in non-verbal communication, one's feet tell you everything about one's direction and intention. Love it!!

I don't mind so much that we squandered 18 points of our dominating lead, but at some point, you just got to hand it to Luka, literally and figuratively. That dude's ridiculous. It really seemed like he never missed. He and DAL unfortunately have early LeBron Cleveland Syndrome. The rest of DAL just stands around and watches Luka operate, which we all had ourselves last night watching Luka and fantasizing about what he'd look like in green for the love of God. Then when Luka goes to the bench for half the 2nd quarter, no scoring from the rest of the team. I know Ktron jumped on me last time when I quipped that Mark Cuban needed to drop Shark Tank and get back to focusing more time on this team and building a championship contender, but nothing has changed for DAL. Sorry Ktron, I'm looking more and more correct in my stab at this point.

The key to making the 3's is to simulate practice. You simulate practice 3's by moving the ball around, forcing switching and miscommunication on their defense thus eventually leaving someone wide open, then execute. It's that simple. Marcus has become the Larry Bird of the 2020's with his passing. 9 assists and just about all Larry Bird-esque?! Give me a break! As we are saying over and over now...this is fun to watch.

There's not the fear of us running up a huge lead, slacking off and then blowing the game anymore. Too many weapons even when none of them can throw it in the ocean for a game or two. Again, all this currently occurring sans RWIII.

Celtics17 wrote:

Ktron wrote:Gotta admit I was a little nervous going into this game. Take that back. I was very nervous going into this game. Why? Easy-Luka. Luka Doncic! He is a maniac.
However, after watching last night, he can score 60 and they’ll still lose. Because outside of Dinwiddy, he has little to no help. I don’t think that team gets to the WFC without making some moves before the trading deadline. So I shouldn't have been nervous at all. That Dallas roster is nowhere near close to the C’s level.
Heard Stephen A say while watching the replay that the rest of the Dallas roster gets checks too and they need to start earning them. (Can’t believe I just quoted Stephen A) Speaking of—

Matters of Media

(Bob H keeps telling me to turn the sound down but I can’t I have to watch and listen good or bad.)

There was 3:50 left in the 3rd Q and we were up 26. Scal asks Mike, “Think we should start pulling our starters now”!? Mike says “..”We’re still in the 3rd quarter, but”.. and then mentioned something  
that I just missed hearing but I’m pretty certain it wasn’t a “Yeah lets do it!  Scal cuts in says (not verbatim) Think we should Mike?
Mike goes back to PBP without a response.
I dont need to go into what happened right after that dumbass question but I can tell you that when it got down to 10, Scal says “We got a ball game Mike”-Duh..

I then watched the replay on ESPN and Mike Breen referring to the score, says to Doris, “They're getting an absolute beat down right now. Do they fight back? Are they going to fight back tonight”?
Doris says “Thats a great question. Luka is obviously having a great game but body language, all of the guys in white jerseys are spread across the floor and not communicating. It tells you a lot. The group is not cohesive yet”.
NEVER did they ever discuss Boston pulling their starters with that much time left.
I complain about Doris at times but as a game analyst she knows the deal. Scal does not and HE played in the NBA.
How Scal fixed his mouth to even suggest pulling starters that early is beyond comprehension.
Violating listener expectations is his specialty!

Ktron

You are right on all accounts. I only watched the espn feed. I don't always agree with Doris Burke, but I think she is a fine analyst and runs rings around Scal. Living in Jersey I am happy to be able to get the Celtics games via League Pass, but I suffer through Scal. I have thought about muting the volume, but then you lose the game feel.

Same here. Back when Howard Cosell was doing MNF, some markets where the game was being played, the local stations would encourage people to turn the sound down when Howard was in town doing the broadcast. (Usually because he said something negative about their team) I remember an anchor interviewing Howard and asking him how he felt about stations encouraging viewers to turn his broadcast volume down.
Howard gave her in earful telling her that she’s a TV newsperson, a fellow broadcaster and she “should be ashamed to ask that question. How would you like it if I was to encourage people to do that to your broadcast? It very unprofessional of you young lady”. Yikes! :>) I do see his point so I try and suffer through it. Howard annoyed lots of people but I personally thought he was one of the best.
I agree with you on Burke as well. Once you get past her jargon and opinions and focus solely on her analysis, Doris is pretty damn good.

dbrown4 wrote:That's much better.  When the ball moves, great things happen.  

I like the way BOS and CJ Old Schooled it by going Inside-Out early on.  Then Brodgen came in and hit a couple of 3's and 3-ball target practice started for real.  

Per the announcers, this was CJ's doing in that the Mavs have just as much trouble in the middle as we currently do.  Celtics attacked the lane, got fouled, made free throws and an 85% clip.  Jason alone went to the line 15 times.  IMHBAO, CJ's outsmarted and out-coached Ime at this point.  Please lock him down as the new head coach.  Give it to him for Christmas.

It has been great watching these games with my sons.  My middle child is the AAU baller.  Among other things, I learned from him and when the announcer mentioned about "playing/guarding their feet" which just like in non-verbal communication, one's feet tell you everything about one's direction and intention.  Love it!!

I don't mind so much that we squandered 18 points of our dominating lead, but at some point, you just got to hand it to Luka, literally and figuratively.  That dude's ridiculous.  It really seemed like he never missed.  He and DAL unfortunately have early LeBron Cleveland Syndrome.  The rest of DAL just stands around and watches Luka operate, which we all had ourselves last night watching Luka and fantasizing about what he'd look like in green for the love of God.  Then when Luka goes to the bench for half the 2nd quarter, no scoring from the rest of the team.  I know Ktron jumped on me last time when I quipped that Mark Cuban needed to drop Shark Tank and get back to focusing more time on this team and building a championship contender, but nothing has changed for DAL.  Sorry Ktron, I'm looking more and more correct in my stab at this point.          

The key to making the 3's is to simulate practice.  You simulate practice 3's by moving the ball around, forcing switching and miscommunication on their defense thus eventually leaving someone wide open, then execute.  It's that simple.  Marcus has become the Larry Bird of the 2020's with his passing.  9 assists and just about all Larry Bird-esque?!  Give me a break!  As we are saying over and over now...this is fun to watch.

There's not the fear of us running up a huge lead, slacking off and then blowing the game anymore.  Too many weapons even when none of them can throw it in the ocean for a game or two.  Again, all this currently occurring sans RWIII.      

   

DB, Cuban has people he pays good money to reboot this team. The current President ( a woman ) and his GM are fairly new hires. They had major FO issues in the past with the ex-President sexually harassing employees and creating a very toxic environment. Donnie Nelson was the GM back then and he did well until it became his time to go. Apparently he was no longer effective.
I’d like to give the 2 newbies more time before passing judgment.
Cuban appears to be very hands on because of what you see at games where he gets in the huddle during timeouts and lets the refs have it but apparently he’s just the opposite when it comes to the FO.
No excuse for letting that FO toxic environment to fester out of control. He has to take that L. However, I don’t think he should get too involved with trades and player personnel etc.. He doesn't know enough and he has people that he hired that do.

Ktron wrote:

Celtics17 wrote:

Ktron wrote:Gotta admit I was a little nervous going into this game. Take that back. I was very nervous going into this game. Why? Easy-Luka. Luka Doncic! He is a maniac.
However, after watching last night, he can score 60 and they’ll still lose. Because outside of Dinwiddy, he has little to no help. I don’t think that team gets to the WFC without making some moves before the trading deadline. So I shouldn't have been nervous at all. That Dallas roster is nowhere near close to the C’s level.
Heard Stephen A say while watching the replay that the rest of the Dallas roster gets checks too and they need to start earning them. (Can’t believe I just quoted Stephen A) Speaking of—

Matters of Media

(Bob H keeps telling me to turn the sound down but I can’t I have to watch and listen good or bad.)

There was 3:50 left in the 3rd Q and we were up 26. Scal asks Mike, “Think we should start pulling our starters now”!? Mike says “..”We’re still in the 3rd quarter, but”.. and then mentioned something  
that I just missed hearing but I’m pretty certain it wasn’t a “Yeah lets do it!  Scal cuts in says (not verbatim) Think we should Mike?
Mike goes back to PBP without a response.
I dont need to go into what happened right after that dumbass question but I can tell you that when it got down to 10, Scal says “We got a ball game Mike”-Duh..

I then watched the replay on ESPN and Mike Breen referring to the score, says to Doris, “They're getting an absolute beat down right now. Do they fight back? Are they going to fight back tonight”?
Doris says “Thats a great question. Luka is obviously having a great game but body language, all of the guys in white jerseys are spread across the floor and not communicating. It tells you a lot. The group is not cohesive yet”.
NEVER did they ever discuss Boston pulling their starters with that much time left.
I complain about Doris at times but as a game analyst she knows the deal. Scal does not and HE played in the NBA.
How Scal fixed his mouth to even suggest pulling starters that early is beyond comprehension.
Violating listener expectations is his specialty!

Ktron

You are right on all accounts. I only watched the espn feed. I don't always agree with Doris Burke, but I think she is a fine analyst and runs rings around Scal. Living in Jersey I am happy to be able to get the Celtics games via League Pass, but I suffer through Scal. I have thought about muting the volume, but then you lose the game feel.

Same here. Back when Howard Cosell was doing MNF, some markets where the game was being played, the local stations would encourage people to turn the sound down when Howard was in town doing the broadcast. (Usually because he said something negative about their team) I remember an anchor interviewing Howard and asking him how he felt about stations encouraging viewers to turn his broadcast volume down.
Howard gave her in earful telling her that she’s a TV newsperson, a fellow broadcaster and she “should be ashamed to ask that question. How would you like it if I was to encourage people to do that to your broadcast? It very unprofessional of you young lady”. Yikes! :>) I do see his point so I try and suffer through it. Howard annoyed lots of people but I personally thought he was one of the best.
I agree with you on Burke as well. Once you get past her jargon and opinions and focus solely on her analysis, Doris is pretty damn good.

Ktron

Definitely agree with you on Howard Cosell. Could he be annoying and irritating, absolutely. Was he entertaining, absolutely. He was one of the best ever. He made MNF mainstream and a must see. I think TV guide did a poll of which sportscaster do you hate most and which sportscaster do you like most, and Cosell was first in both polls. That's capturing an audience.

Celtics17 wrote:

Ktron wrote:

Celtics17 wrote:

Ktron wrote:Gotta admit I was a little nervous going into this game. Take that back. I was very nervous going into this game. Why? Easy-Luka. Luka Doncic! He is a maniac.
However, after watching last night, he can score 60 and they’ll still lose. Because outside of Dinwiddy, he has little to no help. I don’t think that team gets to the WFC without making some moves before the trading deadline. So I shouldn't have been nervous at all. That Dallas roster is nowhere near close to the C’s level.
Heard Stephen A say while watching the replay that the rest of the Dallas roster gets checks too and they need to start earning them. (Can’t believe I just quoted Stephen A) Speaking of—

Matters of Media

(Bob H keeps telling me to turn the sound down but I can’t I have to watch and listen good or bad.)

There was 3:50 left in the 3rd Q and we were up 26. Scal asks Mike, “Think we should start pulling our starters now”!? Mike says “..”We’re still in the 3rd quarter, but”.. and then mentioned something  
that I just missed hearing but I’m pretty certain it wasn’t a “Yeah lets do it!  Scal cuts in says (not verbatim) Think we should Mike?
Mike goes back to PBP without a response.
I dont need to go into what happened right after that dumbass question but I can tell you that when it got down to 10, Scal says “We got a ball game Mike”-Duh..

I then watched the replay on ESPN and Mike Breen referring to the score, says to Doris, “They're getting an absolute beat down right now. Do they fight back? Are they going to fight back tonight”?
Doris says “Thats a great question. Luka is obviously having a great game but body language, all of the guys in white jerseys are spread across the floor and not communicating. It tells you a lot. The group is not cohesive yet”.
NEVER did they ever discuss Boston pulling their starters with that much time left.
I complain about Doris at times but as a game analyst she knows the deal. Scal does not and HE played in the NBA.
How Scal fixed his mouth to even suggest pulling starters that early is beyond comprehension.
Violating listener expectations is his specialty!

Ktron

You are right on all accounts. I only watched the espn feed. I don't always agree with Doris Burke, but I think she is a fine analyst and runs rings around Scal. Living in Jersey I am happy to be able to get the Celtics games via League Pass, but I suffer through Scal. I have thought about muting the volume, but then you lose the game feel.

Same here. Back when Howard Cosell was doing MNF, some markets where the game was being played, the local stations would encourage people to turn the sound down when Howard was in town doing the broadcast. (Usually because he said something negative about their team) I remember an anchor interviewing Howard and asking him how he felt about stations encouraging viewers to turn his broadcast volume down.
Howard gave her in earful telling her that she’s a TV newsperson, a fellow broadcaster and she “should be ashamed to ask that question. How would you like it if I was to encourage people to do that to your broadcast? It very unprofessional of you young lady”. Yikes! :>) I do see his point so I try and suffer through it. Howard annoyed lots of people but I personally thought he was one of the best.
I agree with you on Burke as well. Once you get past her jargon and opinions and focus solely on her analysis, Doris is pretty damn good.

Ktron

Definitely agree with you on Howard Cosell. Could he be annoying and irritating, absolutely. Was he entertaining, absolutely. He was one of the best ever. He made MNF mainstream and a must see. I think TV guide did a poll of which sportscaster do you hate most and which sportscaster do you like most, and Cosell was first in both polls. That's capturing an audience.

17 He certainly was polarizing and so talented. Remember when he would do the half-time highlights? I don’t know how many know this but he adlibbed all of it. no script, nothing. Amazing.

Ktron

Never knew he adlibbed the halftime highlights. I couldn’t wait for him to do the halftime highlights back in the day, he was just fabulous.

Scal obviously ad libs too. Not quite as intelligent.

Ktron,

Thanks for the additional info on Mavs FO situation. I did not know that but that explains a lot.

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P.S. I'm very nervous going into all Celtic games but things are easing ever so slightly recently especially with RWIII on the horizon and this team figuring out things in his absence!