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112288 wrote:DBoss,

We were scoring well in the first half as you can see by the box score per quarter. My take, our first problem was simple, we quit playing defense and just tried to out score them in Q 1 & 2 which did not work. Second problem, we had no offensive strategy to break their zone defense on the fly by coach Joe in the second half while we continued to not play defense.

Bottom line, we were not focused and not as hungrey as Philly. Give them credit.

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Thanks for your response.

What the hell happened with PJ hitting JT in the N,,, and no flagrant called on him? The instant replay is crystal clear. PJ hit him on purpose and he knew exactly what he did. You can see his back turned to JT and the intent to trike and then a quick look over to JT in pain. How can the refs miss that call? It was a very, very dirty play by PJ Tucker as well as a dereliction of duty on the part of the refs.

Anyways the game was a disappointing loss because it reminds me that some of the old baggage from the regular season has been carried into the playoffs.

In no way does it define this series. Boston needs to play with purpose in game 2 and do it for a full 48 minutes,

They will, dboss. They will.

db

112288 wrote:BingBang

I like your suggestion on putting Tatum in the corner.  Could take the pressure off him.

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Ok, but unlikely. I only say this for Jaylen because I’m guessing as to why he doesn’t see the ball very late in the game. It should be him and Tatum as the go to guys but it isn’t as everybody notices.

1. Lack of offensive s po acing in the 4th Q.
2. Jayson should have been guarding Harden for the second half.
3. Defense is about effort and focus. We lacked both.
4 Rob for only 19 minutrs????

Celtics17 wrote:I think everyone is overlooking what Melton did in the first half. He hit 5-5 from three and scored 17 points. Some of it was our lackluster defense. However, at least 2 or 3 of those were tough long and contested. When a role player steps up like that it is tough to overcome. If he hits 3-5 we likely win the game. We shot 74% in the first half, shredded their defense and were up 3 at half time. I knew then we were in trouble.

Then in 3rd quarter Harden puts up a corner fade away hits the rim, the announcers are saying he misses and the ball bounces high and right in the hoop, a la Don Nelson. I don't think I've a shot from the side do that in 57 years of watching basketball. Kawhi's was different it bounced around the rim. Nellie's was from the lane. Sometimes it may not be your night.

That being said, we still had control of the game late. I totally agree that Jaylen got too passive in the fourth quarter. With about 2 minutes left up 4 we got a rebound passed it to Jaylen who only had Harden to beat (Harris was also in the play, but Jaylen had an angle on Harden). Instead of driving it, he backed it out and we didn't convert a key chance to go up 6 or 7.

The last guy I would expect to miss open shots and make bad plays is Malcolm Brogdon. Yet up 4 (may have been the same possession Jaylen backed it out) he missed an open 15 footer that could have put us up 6. I know you can't make them all, but not converting there led to the 3 point play by Maxey and you know the rest. Then of course the errant pass to Maxey after that.

I agree our defense wasn't stellar, but it was good enough to win the game if we didn't turn the ball over 16 times to their 6!!! That's where the game was lost!!! Too many turnovers, and Philly capitalized. Anytime we turned it over they made us pay.

Rosalie, I think the reason Rob is not playing more minutes is because he can't shoot the three ball and the two big lineup with no Embiid just doesn't work as well against their small lineup.

Give them credit, they played smart, hard and hit key shots, but we gave this game away. I hope we can recover, but now we are in a hole.

I think Celtic17 hits it right on target here.

Smart move by Doc going zone when he did. Harden, Melton, Harris and Maxey all made key contributions for the 6ers. Reed with 13 rebounds was a real plus for them.

When Philly got through the 1st half without spending time on the charity stripe you knew our defensive intensity was missing, and the Celtics proved that turnovers aren't just for breakfast.

It would be nice to get more minutes from RWIII but given his physical history it was smart to keep him at about 20 minutes. Against an opponent that matches up well against us and in a series that has every chance of going 7 games, it makes no sense to risk having him done for the postseason in the first few games. Celtic17's point about RWIII and the 2-big lineup being problematic with Philly going small also makes sense.

We need a focused defensive effort in game 2 to even this up. I think we'll see it.

Very rational response NYCelt. Hope you are right.

Doc did an interview and basically said they had to come out of their man to man defense and play zone.

The Celtics seem to struggle against zone defenses.  I am surprised that they do not play zone more themselves.  

Hope CJ gets them better prepared to play against the zone.  None of the sports media asked about that in the post game interview with him.

Also I think a 6 man rotation plus meaningless  minutes for player 7 and 8 leaves a lot to be desired.

worcester wrote:Very rational response NYCelt. Hope you are right.

W -

Sam used to tell my wife that her laugh sounded like a Hollywood actress's laugh.

I showed her your comment saying I wrote something rational.

She's laughing at that thought right now. I think he was right...

(...but thanks for thinking so anyway )

Well, saying the Celts need to learn how to score against the zozone and play more than 6 men is QUITE rational and nothing to laugh at..unless you're Greek and your wife is not...like me and my ex who never thought I had a rational thought.

As bad as we played both sides, we still had the lead late and missed a few key shots and they made them. We were still right there. Expecting bounce back games from Jaylen, White and RWill. A monster 40 point game from one of the J’s would be nice. Hope Joe can make necessary adjustments especially vs the zone. Riley and Spolstra talk all all the time. Hope Brad has some good ideas to share with Joe and the staff. We played really bad, Jaylen taking himself out of the game was the biggest gift they could get. As was noted Harden had a vintage flashback game and the others Melton, Reed, Maxey all stepped up and they barely won. We just have to be us and we’ll be fine.

To quote the immortal Wanda Sykes: "I'ma be me."

Turnovers and giving up offensive rebounds. I too wondered why Rob didn't play more. Al coudn't guard the perimeter.To be fair, Rob was in drop coverage most of the time and didn't help much out their either.It seems like we could have used his athleticism, though. They definitely targeted Al on pnrs. We were trancendent on offense in the early going, but seemed to tighten up when they wouldn't go away. Derrick White didn't play much either. Our guys have a tendency to panic, which doesn't bode well for our champonship aspirations. Time to tighten up.If we lose the next game at home , I, for one, will be in panic mode. This team never does anything easy.

Like Tina Turner said, "We never do anything nice and easy. We do it rough."

worcester wrote:Like Tina Turner said, "We never do anything nice and easy. We do it rough."

LIKE

Here's the problem for tonight in G2.  It is basically what TNT was saying last night is spot on.  This game tonight is the season for Boston.  We're in trouble.  I have to agree with them.  Here's why.

We dicked around in the first round dragging out a series that seriously should have been over in 4, but 5 max.  The screwing around didn't hurt us as it came late in the series and we were able to do our standard Shitty Game/Bounce Back Game act.    

Enter G1, 2nd Round.  Now the Shitty Game (let's define this.  A Shitty Game is a game that we have in hand, should have won but for some or various reasons came up short) came much earlier in the series.  G1 as a matter of fact, as early as you can get it.  We've SIGNIFICANTLY narrowed our chances of getting out of this mess.  We also lost the first game of the series at home which means we have to win G2 or it is indeed over.  The good news is, losing the first home game of the series has now been done by 3 of the 4 teams in the second round.  It's a trend!!  

Of the 8 teams remaining, and I don't know if everyone is watching these other series, but so far, I'd rank us 7th in overall performance in every category.  And the only reason we haven't taken over 8th place, which is held by PHX, is because we haven't lost the first two games of this series.

Here's what I'm getting at.  I'm just not seeing it.  This team must show us all something tonight.  I'm not talking about barely showing us either.  This is a bit more desperate than we probably want to come face-to-face with this early on in the playoffs.  Remember my other premise.  PHI HAS TO WIN this round.  They haven't even lost a game yet in the playoffs, so they are INDEED acting like AND playing like a team that is desperate, recognizing this fact and they understand the ramifications and gravity of losing this series.  

I hate to be the person to speak the truth on this team this early in the playoffs, but if I don't see what I'm looking for tonight, even if we win, we're done.  It's going to be HOW we win tonight if we win.  No moral victories.  We have the deepest team next to DEN.  It should be us two in the finals.  But we are back out of the contender conversation until further notice.  It looks like all our ghosts are coming out at the same time and now it's at the beginning of this series.  And one of our "favorite" ghosts is this Shitty Game/Bounce Back Game, which although it looks somewhat good when it happens, really isn't a good thing as PHI could show us tonight and have us down 0-2.  

We will all know tonight, win or lose, what' up with this team.  We should not be asking ourselves or our team to have to show up and out tonight just to win a game.  That was NEVER a question for the 2008 team although the first two rounds were nail biters and went the distance or any team from the 80's and CERTAINLY NOT any championship team from the 60's or 70's.

These other series everyone is going all out.  It's some great basketball on both offense and defense.

But you know what?  Maybe this isn't any of those past teams.  Maybe this is the way this team is going to do it.  We have to put our preconceived notions and past championship teams behind us and just look at this team.  They always have and will always will do things their way.  We're not going to remember any of this looking up at Banner 18 in the rafters.  Just that there is a banner for 2023.

We have to change the narrative because now the media is on to the whole PHI now it's time, Embiid MVP bs train. Changing the narrative will wither start tonight or go full steam ahead with a PHI victory. We are capable. I just can't say for certain we've got this. THAT'S what is sad.  

Ktron, I'll be joining you at water aerobics class tonight.  But I will be bringing my cell phone for instant, live updates!   It's not waterproof, though!  

db

O we of little faith. I am figuratively defecating in my pants too. A fuller story on that when i get to my computer instead of typing on the phone.

worcester,

Why don't you join Ktron and myself at Water Aerobics this evening?

db

db, here's a true story about being scared shitless.

In the 1980's, my treasure hunting mentor, Captain Carl Fismer - star of the Amazon Prime TV video Treasure Lust - was working for Bob Ablanalp who made literally billions from inventing the valve that made aerosol cans a thing. Bob told this story directly to Carl. Bob was Richard Nixon's #1 financial backer and at one point (I don't know when) had Nixon at his island in the Bahamas for a pow wow. Bob sent his seaplane to Florida to pick up Henry Kissinger who was scheduled to join the conference at a specific time.

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Kissinger got on the plane, and it took off for the short flight to the Bahamas. As the plane was about to make its final approach, the pilot announced that they would be making a sea landing.

Kissinger the genius interpreted this that the plane would be crashing at sea. He promptly shoot his pants. When the plane landed, Henry had a messy load on and had to go straight to his room for a shower and change of clothes. He arrived at the meeting with Bob and the President an hour late. This was one of Bob Ablanalp's favorite stories.

Regarding the Celtics, I'm not quite that scared, but close.

I always love those stories where the other side is not around to defend themselves! Probably best not to be around for that one!! Very funny, though!!

db

Kissinger is still around. So is Carl Fismer. So too probably is the pilot.

My bad. I thought Kissinger died years ago. He's 99 years old!

db

Carl is 84