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How the C's could revolutionize the NBA
by k_j_88 Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:06 pm
How the Boston Celtics Could Revolutionize the NBA in 2013-2014
Yahoo Contributor Network By Justin Haskins
4 hours ago
COMMENTARY | It may sound ridiculous, but a team most analysts expect to finish in the bottom half of the Eastern Conference could revolutionize the NBA next season under the guidance of new head coach Brad Stevens.
According to Celtics.com reporter Marc D'Amico, Brad Stevens has been running three-point shooting drills in recent practices -- with the entire team shooting from beyond the arc. That's right, every player on the team is focusing on his three-point shooting, including Boston big men Jared Sullinger, Kris Humphries, Brandon Bass and Vitor Faverani.
You may be thinking that's not a big deal; it is, after all, just practice. But looking at the box scores of Boston's first four preseason games reveals a surprising trend: Almost everyone on the roster is attempting three-point shots.
In the first four preseason games, the Celtics have attempted 96 three-point shots, 30 more than their opponents, and it's not just the usual suspects either. The 6-foot-11-inch rookie Vitor Faverani has taken 4 three-point attempts, center Kelly Olynyk has 7 attempts and forward Jeff Green has an incredible 20 three-point attempts.
Even second-year player Jared Sullinger, who weighs in at 6-9 and 260 pounds, has taken 7 attempts from deep, which is truly remarkable given that he only managed to attempt 5 three-pointers in 45 regular season games in 2012-2013.
While it's true coach Brad Stevens was quick to point out in D'Amico's story that fans shouldn't "read too much" into the three-point "contests" the team is holding in practices, it's hard not to notice that virtually every player on the roster is capable of hitting a three-pointer and is spending valuable practice time working on it.
Given the struggles the Celtics are likely to go through in 2013-2014 scoring points without Rajon Rondo to start the season, anything at this point is conceivable -- even the possibility of an offense that utilizes the three-point shooting ability of every player on the floor.
If such a strategy is implemented and does actually produce positive results, it could radically change the way teams are forced to play Boston. But even if the strategy fails, one thing is absolutely true: Brad Stevens is the kind of guy who will experiment with a team until he finds something that works.
For fans, it's great to see. The Celtics are going to be a fascinating team to watch in 2013-2014.
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Given the fact that Haskins wrote this article, I was immediately skeptical to the notion that it might carry any weight. This time around, I can say that I didn't have any real problem with the article itself. Nonetheless, it brings up an interesting occurrence, and one I personally don't feel too thrilled about. 3 pointers are low percentage shots. They have youth and should be utilizing it to run other teams off the court.
KJ
Yahoo Contributor Network By Justin Haskins
4 hours ago
COMMENTARY | It may sound ridiculous, but a team most analysts expect to finish in the bottom half of the Eastern Conference could revolutionize the NBA next season under the guidance of new head coach Brad Stevens.
According to Celtics.com reporter Marc D'Amico, Brad Stevens has been running three-point shooting drills in recent practices -- with the entire team shooting from beyond the arc. That's right, every player on the team is focusing on his three-point shooting, including Boston big men Jared Sullinger, Kris Humphries, Brandon Bass and Vitor Faverani.
You may be thinking that's not a big deal; it is, after all, just practice. But looking at the box scores of Boston's first four preseason games reveals a surprising trend: Almost everyone on the roster is attempting three-point shots.
In the first four preseason games, the Celtics have attempted 96 three-point shots, 30 more than their opponents, and it's not just the usual suspects either. The 6-foot-11-inch rookie Vitor Faverani has taken 4 three-point attempts, center Kelly Olynyk has 7 attempts and forward Jeff Green has an incredible 20 three-point attempts.
Even second-year player Jared Sullinger, who weighs in at 6-9 and 260 pounds, has taken 7 attempts from deep, which is truly remarkable given that he only managed to attempt 5 three-pointers in 45 regular season games in 2012-2013.
While it's true coach Brad Stevens was quick to point out in D'Amico's story that fans shouldn't "read too much" into the three-point "contests" the team is holding in practices, it's hard not to notice that virtually every player on the roster is capable of hitting a three-pointer and is spending valuable practice time working on it.
Given the struggles the Celtics are likely to go through in 2013-2014 scoring points without Rajon Rondo to start the season, anything at this point is conceivable -- even the possibility of an offense that utilizes the three-point shooting ability of every player on the floor.
If such a strategy is implemented and does actually produce positive results, it could radically change the way teams are forced to play Boston. But even if the strategy fails, one thing is absolutely true: Brad Stevens is the kind of guy who will experiment with a team until he finds something that works.
For fans, it's great to see. The Celtics are going to be a fascinating team to watch in 2013-2014.
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Given the fact that Haskins wrote this article, I was immediately skeptical to the notion that it might carry any weight. This time around, I can say that I didn't have any real problem with the article itself. Nonetheless, it brings up an interesting occurrence, and one I personally don't feel too thrilled about. 3 pointers are low percentage shots. They have youth and should be utilizing it to run other teams off the court.
KJ
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Re: How the C's could revolutionize the NBA
by Sam Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:51 pm
While it's interesting to note that all the players are taking three-pointers, it might also be interesting to note how many are MAKING three-pointers. Somehow I don't see a fusillade of three point tries being the celtics' best option this season.
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Re: How the C's could revolutionize the NBA
by bobheckler Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:34 am
The Celtics could revolutionize the NBA by taking a ton of 3ptrs?
I take it young Master Haskins hasn't watched a Knicks game the last couple of years. Hard to believe considering his resume boasts front-and-center of obsessively following Boston sports for 10 whole years...
Taking a ton of 3ptrs when that is not what we have done for the past 5 years might force teams to change the way they defend us? No. You don't say. Sacre Bleu! Why would pigs dig for truffles when they could sup like kings on these pearls?
Thanks for posting this, KJ. It's up to each of us to decide whether what is written, by us or another, is worth a damn but in my opinion this is another example of this author in search of a concept that is in search of relevancy by someone who has a perspective as long as a May fly's.
bob
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I take it young Master Haskins hasn't watched a Knicks game the last couple of years. Hard to believe considering his resume boasts front-and-center of obsessively following Boston sports for 10 whole years...
Taking a ton of 3ptrs when that is not what we have done for the past 5 years might force teams to change the way they defend us? No. You don't say. Sacre Bleu! Why would pigs dig for truffles when they could sup like kings on these pearls?
Thanks for posting this, KJ. It's up to each of us to decide whether what is written, by us or another, is worth a damn but in my opinion this is another example of this author in search of a concept that is in search of relevancy by someone who has a perspective as long as a May fly's.
bob
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Re: How the C's could revolutionize the NBA
by RosalieTCeltics Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:17 pm
Hey Bob, I have two sets of tickets that were given to me as gifts. Both of them have the Celtic logo on the front instead of a player. For years they have had different players on the front of the ticket, this is interesting. If I were the veteran players I would be saying "hmmmmmm.....
I thought at least Rondo and Green would be on them.
I wonder what the Garden looks like. Usually there are posters on the poles, I will let you know next week. One of the tickets is for the preseason Brooklyn game.
Rosalie
I thought at least Rondo and Green would be on them.
I wonder what the Garden looks like. Usually there are posters on the poles, I will let you know next week. One of the tickets is for the preseason Brooklyn game.
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Re: How the C's could revolutionize the NBA
by bobheckler Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:26 pm
RosalieTCeltics wrote:Hey Bob, I have two sets of tickets that were given to me as gifts. Both of them have the Celtic logo on the front instead of a player. For years they have had different players on the front of the ticket, this is interesting. If I were the veteran players I would be saying "hmmmmmm.....
I thought at least Rondo and Green would be on them.
I wonder what the Garden looks like. Usually there are posters on the poles, I will let you know next week. One of the tickets is for the preseason Brooklyn game.
Rosalie
Rosalie,
What that says to me is that nobody knows who will or will not be on the team for the entire season, so they're taking no chances.
I would have thought Sully would have been safe, but apparently not. Nobody is safe when Trader Danny is stalking the waiver wires...
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Re: How the C's could revolutionize the NBA
by k_j_88 Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:13 pm
Bob,
To be honest, I almost passed on this when I saw who the author was. I only posted it because it seemed to be less ridiculous at the time, not because of agreeing with his concept because I disagree with the philosophy, but because I was willing to be somewhat open-minded towards what he had to say. I'm starting to think I was mistaken.
And to reference your point on NYK, we can take it back further to Orlando that even had a legit center with that system and still lost.
KJ
To be honest, I almost passed on this when I saw who the author was. I only posted it because it seemed to be less ridiculous at the time, not because of agreeing with his concept because I disagree with the philosophy, but because I was willing to be somewhat open-minded towards what he had to say. I'm starting to think I was mistaken.
And to reference your point on NYK, we can take it back further to Orlando that even had a legit center with that system and still lost.
KJ
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Re: How the C's could revolutionize the NBA
by bobheckler Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:51 pm
KJ,k_j_88 wrote:Bob,
To be honest, I almost passed on this when I saw who the author was. I only posted it because it seemed to be less ridiculous at the time, not because of agreeing with his concept because I disagree with the philosophy, but because I was willing to be somewhat open-minded towards what he had to say. I'm starting to think I was mistaken.
And to reference your point on NYK, we can take it back further to Orlando that even had a legit center with that system and still lost.
KJ
I start threads that are somewhat thin and/or foolish all the time. It's not my job to decide what board members should consider good or bad. If I wanted to be an editor I'd have sold my soul for a profit a long time ago, back when it was worth something. Posting this was a good idea. Deciding to read it and comment or not is theirs.
Maybe we should start a grading system that is shown before the title, like the movie industry does. His stuff could be rated "J", for Justin (or maybe juvenile).
You're right about Orlando, of course. That was two years ago, though, and therefore waaaaay before Haskins' time horizon. That'd be "old school" for him.
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Re: How the C's could revolutionize the NBA
by RosalieTCeltics Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:39 pm
KJ (and Bob)...It just seems to me that writers are digging for something to write about without giving much that as to the team they are writing about. Look around the league, there are many teams that love the "3", then look at the Celtics, we hardly have a group of three point specialists or even the guy we will go to to hit that big three when we least expect it. If Green finally gets out of his funk, I think he is the best shot, then maybe Bradley, if we are lucky. So, I think this guy is grabbing at straws. I guess it is nice to know what others are thinking, just so when we have a thought ourselves, we will think we are so much smarter than these guys who are getting paid to do it.
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Re: How the C's could revolutionize the NBA
by NYCelt Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:01 pm
Brad Stevens was quick to point out in D'Amico's story that fans shouldn't "read too much" into the three-point "contests"
Ummmm...
Maybe he just thought we should be able to hit them?
Sometimes under-appreciated fact;
They do count for an extra point if they go in from outside that arc drawn on the floor...
Ummmm...
Maybe he just thought we should be able to hit them?
Sometimes under-appreciated fact;
They do count for an extra point if they go in from outside that arc drawn on the floor...
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Re: How the C's could revolutionize the NBA
by k_j_88 Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:36 pm
Yes, it's always a great thing to be able to hit 3's, but ill-advised 3's in games are a lot more costly than a missed 3 in practice. There aren't great perimeter shooters on this team to be gin with, in my opinion.NYCelt wrote:Brad Stevens was quick to point out in D'Amico's story that fans shouldn't "read too much" into the three-point "contests"
Ummmm...
Maybe he just thought we should be able to hit them?
Sometimes under-appreciated fact;
They do count for an extra point if they go in from outside that arc drawn on the floor...
The 3 pointer shouldn't exist, but that's my opinion as well.
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