Nets exploring potential blockbusters
+4
wide clyde
worcester
mrkleen09
112288
8 posters
Page 1 of 1
Nets exploring potential blockbusters
ESPNBOSTON
By Marc Stein and Ohm Youngmisuk | ESPN.com
NEW YORK -- The Brooklyn Nets have begun reaching out to teams to let them know that former All-Stars Deron Williams, Brook Lopez and Joe Johnson are available via trade, ESPN.com has learned.
League sources told ESPN.com that the Nets, off to a disappointing 8-11 start and looking to retool after last season's $190 million roster filled with veterans couldn't advance beyond the second round of the playoffs, have let it be known that they are prepared to move any of those franchise cornerstones in what would likely be separate deals if they came to fruition because of the high salaries each possess.
Sources say no trade is imminent involving any of the three players.
Veteran forward Andrei Kirilenko, who has been out of the rotation and mostly away from the team recently due to a personal matter, also could be traded. The 76ers and Nets had preliminary talks about a Kirilenko deal in late November, and those talks have since restarted, sources told ESPNNewYork.com.
The exploratory discussions with various teams are the strongest indication yet that the Nets are looking to shake up their roster after a tumultuous 2013-14 campaign in which they started 10-21 under rookie coach Jason Kidd. They rallied to reach the playoffs and beat the Toronto Raptors in a first-round series despite another season of ups and downs for Williams and the injury-plagued Lopez alongside Kevin Garnett and the since-departed Paul Pierce.
Yet sources insist that the Nets haven't abandoned their recent "win-now mentality" and aren't merely looking to dump salary. Brooklyn's hope, sources said, is to construct a deal or two that bring back sufficient talent that enables the Nets to remain a playoff team.
The Nets have built their team around Williams, 30, and Lopez, 26, dating to the February 2011 trade to acquire the former from the Utah Jazz. Both have since signed maximum contracts alongside another max player in Johnson, whom Brooklyn acquired in the summer of 2012 to help fend off the Dallas Mavericks and re-sign Williams when he was a free agent.
But the Nets, still sporting a hefty $94 million payroll this season after spending nearly $190 million in salary and luxury taxes last season, have not enjoyed the kind of results they had hoped for under new coach Lionel Hollins.
Asked by reporters Dec. 1 if he thought that the core of Williams, Johnson and Lopez could win, Nets general manager Billy King said: "We'll see."
Pressed about the possibility of making changes to the roster, King acknowledged that "we're on the phones, we're talking to people, but there's nothing imminent."
Brook Lopez, Deron Williams and Joe Johnson are all signed to big contracts for the Nets, who are off to an 8-11 start.
The reality is that trading Williams, Lopez or Johnson, let alone a combination of those three, is likely to be difficult.
Williams has two years remaining on a five-year, $98 million deal and has struggled to recapture the All-Star form he displayed in Utah while battling ankle trouble in recent seasons. He is due $21 million next season and $22.3 million in 2016-17, with the ability to opt of his contract and return to free agency in the summer of 2016.
Lopez, who signed a four-year, $60 million deal in 2012, has one more season left on his contract after this one. It's a player option for 2015-16 worth $16.7 million, which Lopez is expected to exercise given the foot injuries that have plagued him for years in addition to the back strain that has him sidelined presently.
Johnson is making $23.2 million this season as the league's third-highest player and is owed $24.9 million in 2015-16. He combines with Williams and Lopez to form the league's highest-paid trio this season at $58.7 million combined.
Johnson isn't making the trip with the Nets to Chicago because he is sick with the flu and will miss his second straight game when Brooklyn faces the Bulls on Wednesday.
Williams underwent offseason surgery on both ankles but has played in all 19 games this season, averaging 17.1 points and 6.5 assists in 36.5 minutes per game.
Lopez is averaging 16.1 points and 6.2 rebounds in 16 games this season but played in a mere 96 games over the past three full seasons. The 7-footer appeared in just 17 games last season before suffering a season-ending injury to his right foot Dec. 20 in Philadelphia.
Lopez underwent two procedures on his right foot in January, when he had surgery to repair a fractured fifth metatarsal and a first metatarsal osteotomy, in which another bone was repositioned in his foot to unload and protect the injured area. On March 3, Lopez had surgery to repair a torn tendon and tighten lateral ligaments in his left ankle.
With both players making their way back while the Nets try to learn a new system under Hollins, Brooklyn has had difficulty meshing at times during the first couple of months.
Williams and Lopez are adjusting to their fourth coach since the 2012-13 season, when Avery Johnson was fired and replaced by interim coach P.J. Carlesimo. Hollins, who replaced Kidd, has said he has had to learn a lot about his players and admitted to having to alter his system slightly late last month.
A frustrated Johnson called the team out a few weeks ago for playing "very selfish" and saying that "guys kind of exhaust their options, and then when there is nothing else for them, then they'll pass it when they have to."
But the Nets showed their potential with a 95-93 overtime win over the reigning champion San Antonio Spurs last week when Williams had 17 points and nine assists and Lopez had 16 points and 16 rebounds.
112288
By Marc Stein and Ohm Youngmisuk | ESPN.com
NEW YORK -- The Brooklyn Nets have begun reaching out to teams to let them know that former All-Stars Deron Williams, Brook Lopez and Joe Johnson are available via trade, ESPN.com has learned.
League sources told ESPN.com that the Nets, off to a disappointing 8-11 start and looking to retool after last season's $190 million roster filled with veterans couldn't advance beyond the second round of the playoffs, have let it be known that they are prepared to move any of those franchise cornerstones in what would likely be separate deals if they came to fruition because of the high salaries each possess.
Sources say no trade is imminent involving any of the three players.
Veteran forward Andrei Kirilenko, who has been out of the rotation and mostly away from the team recently due to a personal matter, also could be traded. The 76ers and Nets had preliminary talks about a Kirilenko deal in late November, and those talks have since restarted, sources told ESPNNewYork.com.
The exploratory discussions with various teams are the strongest indication yet that the Nets are looking to shake up their roster after a tumultuous 2013-14 campaign in which they started 10-21 under rookie coach Jason Kidd. They rallied to reach the playoffs and beat the Toronto Raptors in a first-round series despite another season of ups and downs for Williams and the injury-plagued Lopez alongside Kevin Garnett and the since-departed Paul Pierce.
Yet sources insist that the Nets haven't abandoned their recent "win-now mentality" and aren't merely looking to dump salary. Brooklyn's hope, sources said, is to construct a deal or two that bring back sufficient talent that enables the Nets to remain a playoff team.
The Nets have built their team around Williams, 30, and Lopez, 26, dating to the February 2011 trade to acquire the former from the Utah Jazz. Both have since signed maximum contracts alongside another max player in Johnson, whom Brooklyn acquired in the summer of 2012 to help fend off the Dallas Mavericks and re-sign Williams when he was a free agent.
But the Nets, still sporting a hefty $94 million payroll this season after spending nearly $190 million in salary and luxury taxes last season, have not enjoyed the kind of results they had hoped for under new coach Lionel Hollins.
Asked by reporters Dec. 1 if he thought that the core of Williams, Johnson and Lopez could win, Nets general manager Billy King said: "We'll see."
Pressed about the possibility of making changes to the roster, King acknowledged that "we're on the phones, we're talking to people, but there's nothing imminent."
Brook Lopez, Deron Williams and Joe Johnson are all signed to big contracts for the Nets, who are off to an 8-11 start.
The reality is that trading Williams, Lopez or Johnson, let alone a combination of those three, is likely to be difficult.
Williams has two years remaining on a five-year, $98 million deal and has struggled to recapture the All-Star form he displayed in Utah while battling ankle trouble in recent seasons. He is due $21 million next season and $22.3 million in 2016-17, with the ability to opt of his contract and return to free agency in the summer of 2016.
Lopez, who signed a four-year, $60 million deal in 2012, has one more season left on his contract after this one. It's a player option for 2015-16 worth $16.7 million, which Lopez is expected to exercise given the foot injuries that have plagued him for years in addition to the back strain that has him sidelined presently.
Johnson is making $23.2 million this season as the league's third-highest player and is owed $24.9 million in 2015-16. He combines with Williams and Lopez to form the league's highest-paid trio this season at $58.7 million combined.
Johnson isn't making the trip with the Nets to Chicago because he is sick with the flu and will miss his second straight game when Brooklyn faces the Bulls on Wednesday.
Williams underwent offseason surgery on both ankles but has played in all 19 games this season, averaging 17.1 points and 6.5 assists in 36.5 minutes per game.
Lopez is averaging 16.1 points and 6.2 rebounds in 16 games this season but played in a mere 96 games over the past three full seasons. The 7-footer appeared in just 17 games last season before suffering a season-ending injury to his right foot Dec. 20 in Philadelphia.
Lopez underwent two procedures on his right foot in January, when he had surgery to repair a fractured fifth metatarsal and a first metatarsal osteotomy, in which another bone was repositioned in his foot to unload and protect the injured area. On March 3, Lopez had surgery to repair a torn tendon and tighten lateral ligaments in his left ankle.
With both players making their way back while the Nets try to learn a new system under Hollins, Brooklyn has had difficulty meshing at times during the first couple of months.
Williams and Lopez are adjusting to their fourth coach since the 2012-13 season, when Avery Johnson was fired and replaced by interim coach P.J. Carlesimo. Hollins, who replaced Kidd, has said he has had to learn a lot about his players and admitted to having to alter his system slightly late last month.
A frustrated Johnson called the team out a few weeks ago for playing "very selfish" and saying that "guys kind of exhaust their options, and then when there is nothing else for them, then they'll pass it when they have to."
But the Nets showed their potential with a 95-93 overtime win over the reigning champion San Antonio Spurs last week when Williams had 17 points and nine assists and Lopez had 16 points and 16 rebounds.
112288
112288- Posts : 7855
Join date : 2009-10-16
Re: Nets exploring potential blockbusters
Lopez has such a history of injuries that he scares me, but he is the only one of that group that I have any interest in discussing if I am DA.
I have NO IDEA how Billy King still has a job.
I have NO IDEA how Billy King still has a job.
mrkleen09- Posts : 3873
Join date : 2009-10-16
Age : 55
Re: Nets exploring potential blockbusters
How would the Celtics even thing of getting Lopez? They could give Brooklyn one of their first round picks back, but what players would Brooklyn want to balance salaries that the Celtics would want to give up? Maybe Wallace?
wide clyde- Posts : 815
Join date : 2014-10-22
Re: Nets exploring potential blockbusters
wide clyde wrote:How would the Celtics even thing of getting Lopez? They could give Brooklyn one of their first round picks back, but what players would Brooklyn want to balance salaries that the Celtics would want to give up? Maybe Wallace?
Clyde,
It would be ironic indeed if taking Wallace and his contract was the key to the deal last year to get their picks and Brooklyn would now take back Wallace and his contract to get some draft picks back while giving up a very good, albeit oft-injured, center to do it.
My gut tells me to agree with Mrkleen, Lopez's injury history scares me. I don't know how many minutes he has played this year, but it is not a lot.
Bob
.
bobheckler- Posts : 62616
Join date : 2009-10-28
Re: Nets exploring potential blockbusters
Lopez has 2 years at $15M ..............too rich for the risk (health) in my opinion unless they took back Wallace, no picks included as Brooklyn will be a bust in 2 years when the Celtics get their #1 pick in 2016 unless you give up the Clippers pick due us this year.
I would stay pat for the moment and not panic for a center............Zeller may become as good as Lopez if he continues his advanced play.
112288
I would stay pat for the moment and not panic for a center............Zeller may become as good as Lopez if he continues his advanced play.
112288
Last edited by 112288 on Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:36 pm; edited 1 time in total
112288- Posts : 7855
Join date : 2009-10-16
Re: Nets exploring potential blockbusters
Until proven otherwise I don't see him as a player durable enough to carry a team in a deep playoff grind/run. Our future Mr Intimidator has to be durable and theres alot of 7 footers in the next few drafts.
cowens/oldschool- Posts : 27704
Join date : 2009-10-18
Re: Nets exploring potential blockbusters
cowens/oldschool wrote:Until proven otherwise I don't see him as a player durable enough to carry a team in a deep playoff grind/run. Our future Mr Intimidator has to be durable and theres alot of 7 footers in the next few drafts.
Cow,
If you want to be relevant within the next 4 years, getting your starting center in next year's draft is probably not the way to go.
bob
.
bobheckler- Posts : 62616
Join date : 2009-10-28
Re: Nets exploring potential blockbusters
bob we have enough pieces that the 5 doesn't have to carry the team, especially offensively, in my vision he has to be a defensive rebounding force....anything is possible? at the same time if we could get that piece through a trade, I'd be fine with that.
cowens/oldschool- Posts : 27704
Join date : 2009-10-18
Re: Nets exploring potential blockbusters
Not interested in any of the three. I agree with Cow that our center priorities should involve defense, rebounding and durability. Even if Rondo departed and vacated some cap space, I consider Williams too big a physical risk and somewhat of a head case. And who wants a scorer who is going to absorb one-quarter to one-third of the cap amount? There are scorers who offer better value.
Sam
Sam
Re: Nets exploring potential blockbusters
KG!!!!!
send 'em back one of their draft picks Danny stole from them and Wallace.
Imagine even the old and tired KG playing with Smart !
send 'em back one of their draft picks Danny stole from them and Wallace.
Imagine even the old and tired KG playing with Smart !
kdp59- Posts : 5709
Join date : 2014-01-05
Age : 65
Similar topics
» Danny Ainge exploring options with Brooklyn Nets pick, but thinks top of the draft is deep
» Knicks Exploring Options To Move JR Smith
» EXPLORING THE DYNAMICS OF THE RECENT FIVE-GAME SURGE
» Report: Mavericks exploring trading Dennis Smith Jr.
» Exploring Celtics' three options to solve Gordon Hayward conundrum
» Knicks Exploring Options To Move JR Smith
» EXPLORING THE DYNAMICS OF THE RECENT FIVE-GAME SURGE
» Report: Mavericks exploring trading Dennis Smith Jr.
» Exploring Celtics' three options to solve Gordon Hayward conundrum
Page 1 of 1
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum