The Expendables - Ainge Weighing Options with Veterans
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The Expendables - Ainge Weighing Options with Veterans
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The Expendables - Ainge weighing options with veterans
By Jeff Clark @celticsblog on Jan 13 2015, 6:11a 111
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Buy one, get one free. While supplies last.
Draft picks, draft picks, draft picks, that's what Danny Ainge wants right now.
Boston Celtics notes | masslive.com
"Because draft picks are always tradable. Players are not," he said. "Draft picks are always assets."
Basically, if you aren't a young player with upside, then you aren't in the long term plans. The Celtics still have a few hold-over veterans (Brandon Bass, Gerald Wallace, Jameer Nelson, Marcus Thornton) and just picked up another in Tayshaun Prince. Every one them is available for next to nothing.
Ainge deals with Plan B | Boston Herald
Then, according to league sources, the Celts found a limited market for both Rondo and Green, and Brandon Bass, despite some interest from other clubs and the fact he has become a very solid performer, has yet to attract any serious offers.
Veterans can be useful. Bass and Thornton both played productive minutes in an encouraging win last night. Gerald Wallace has morphed into a player-coach of sorts. The young guys have to learn good habits and it is good for them to hear lessons from someone other than the coaches.
With that said, veterans get unhappy if they still have gas left in the tank and see their peers competing for the playoffs while they waste whole seasons at a time waiting for their contract to free them up. Some would like to speed up that process and it sounds like the Celtics would be willing to listen.
I think Danny Ainge will at the very least check the market for these guys before making any buy-out decisions. Even more likely is that he'll convince them to hang on for the next month as Danny works the phones on trades. He doesn't have a lot of attractive assets left in and of themselves, but he can play the facilitator role.
Consider how many times other teams need to bring in a 3rd team in order to make deals work financially. The Celtics have lots of expiring contracts that would be useful rentals for any contender. Or they could be included in a larger deal where another cost-cutting team waives them after the deadline (netting the Celtics another draft asset for their part in the deal).
Too many picks? No such thing says Ainge - Boston Celtics Blog - ESPN Boston
Ainge was asked if he might be downshifting in his pick pursuit. "I don’t know that," Ainge said. "You never know. I’m not done talking."
Regardless of his plans, Ainge has already opened up communication with each of the veterans.
"I've talked with all the guys," Ainge said. "I think everybody is pretty certain what their situation is."
Then, perhaps a little daffy from all the time spent with a cellphone pinned to his skull, or just being his goofy self, Ainge added, "I mean, as certain as they can be. As certain as I am - which is somewhat uncertain."
So I guess we'll have to wait and see.
If anyone wants to take any of these guys off Danny's hand, they are likely going to find him very much open to discussion. Perhaps some of them will come to buy-out terms. But I think the most likely thing is that Ainge will wait till closer to the trade deadline to finally set these veterans free - one way or another.
bob
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The Expendables - Ainge weighing options with veterans
By Jeff Clark @celticsblog on Jan 13 2015, 6:11a 111
David Butler II-USA TODAY Sports
Buy one, get one free. While supplies last.
Draft picks, draft picks, draft picks, that's what Danny Ainge wants right now.
Boston Celtics notes | masslive.com
"Because draft picks are always tradable. Players are not," he said. "Draft picks are always assets."
Basically, if you aren't a young player with upside, then you aren't in the long term plans. The Celtics still have a few hold-over veterans (Brandon Bass, Gerald Wallace, Jameer Nelson, Marcus Thornton) and just picked up another in Tayshaun Prince. Every one them is available for next to nothing.
Ainge deals with Plan B | Boston Herald
Then, according to league sources, the Celts found a limited market for both Rondo and Green, and Brandon Bass, despite some interest from other clubs and the fact he has become a very solid performer, has yet to attract any serious offers.
Veterans can be useful. Bass and Thornton both played productive minutes in an encouraging win last night. Gerald Wallace has morphed into a player-coach of sorts. The young guys have to learn good habits and it is good for them to hear lessons from someone other than the coaches.
With that said, veterans get unhappy if they still have gas left in the tank and see their peers competing for the playoffs while they waste whole seasons at a time waiting for their contract to free them up. Some would like to speed up that process and it sounds like the Celtics would be willing to listen.
I think Danny Ainge will at the very least check the market for these guys before making any buy-out decisions. Even more likely is that he'll convince them to hang on for the next month as Danny works the phones on trades. He doesn't have a lot of attractive assets left in and of themselves, but he can play the facilitator role.
Consider how many times other teams need to bring in a 3rd team in order to make deals work financially. The Celtics have lots of expiring contracts that would be useful rentals for any contender. Or they could be included in a larger deal where another cost-cutting team waives them after the deadline (netting the Celtics another draft asset for their part in the deal).
Too many picks? No such thing says Ainge - Boston Celtics Blog - ESPN Boston
Ainge was asked if he might be downshifting in his pick pursuit. "I don’t know that," Ainge said. "You never know. I’m not done talking."
Regardless of his plans, Ainge has already opened up communication with each of the veterans.
"I've talked with all the guys," Ainge said. "I think everybody is pretty certain what their situation is."
Then, perhaps a little daffy from all the time spent with a cellphone pinned to his skull, or just being his goofy self, Ainge added, "I mean, as certain as they can be. As certain as I am - which is somewhat uncertain."
So I guess we'll have to wait and see.
If anyone wants to take any of these guys off Danny's hand, they are likely going to find him very much open to discussion. Perhaps some of them will come to buy-out terms. But I think the most likely thing is that Ainge will wait till closer to the trade deadline to finally set these veterans free - one way or another.
bob
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Re: The Expendables - Ainge Weighing Options with Veterans
I really hope they find a good home for Bass, he deserves it.
swedeinestonia- Posts : 2153
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Re: The Expendables - Ainge Weighing Options with Veterans
it's NOT just about draft picks, it's about playing the young guys this year and opening up serious cap room next year.
one reason you trade waive/buy out a vet on the final year of his deal, is you don't have a cap hold on him the following year(until he signs somewhere).
that said I feel that Bass and Wallace will both be here the rest of this year.
Nelson is already gone, with Robinson being bought out.
Prince will be bought out.
Rivers will be moved for little or nothing
I think Thornton will be moved or bought out as well now.
that'll leave us with 11 player and Ainge will fill the final two spots with young players on NON-guaranteed deals.
Draft picks AND cap space, that's what it's all about.
don't be surprised if Ainge has a playoff team here NEXT year though.
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