Boston Celtics –Target - Monroe & Love - Best Case $22.57 million

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Boston Celtics – Best Case $22.57 million

The Celtics have a ton of cash and are geared up to use it. Target number one is Kevin Love. Target number two is Greg Monroe.

Sources close to the process say the Celtics plan to swing for the proverbial fences this summer including runs at Gasol, Leonard and Butler too.

With a roster jammed with young guys, there is also a sense that Boston would be open to a sign-and-trade if they can get someone to take an offer as a means to avoid to the matching game and potentially open up more space.

The Celtics also have the pieces to move off money if they can get two guys to commit verbally.

The Celtics’ cap situation is pretty straight forward, as they have a couple of major cap holds that they are likely to renounce: Brandon Bass ($10.35m), Jonas Jerebko ($8.5m) and Luigi Datome ($2.275m).

The sense is that the Celtics may do a new deal with Brandon Bass at a significantly lower value than his cap hold, while Jerebko and Datome are renounced.

The Celtics have $40.406 million in guaranteed contracts and will likely carry three incomplete charges worth about $1.5 million, so in real money the C’s may have almost $25 million to play with. That’s enough for a max offer to almost anyone, hence why the Celtics have high hopes on a marquee name.

112288

PLEASE NO!!!!!!

IF Ainge is going full bore into UFA next year...DeAndre Jordan is the man to make a full run at.

1) he is a NBA CENTER

2) hes the BEST REBOUNDER in the NBA the past two years

3) he's 26 YO now

4) he's the best defensive center playing in the league


and finally.........
5) we probably have no chance of signing him here.

DAMMIT!

I have dreams of him on this roster right now and watch use tear apart the East.

now lets hope my dream of Jordan works out like my dream of I. Thomas earlier.

I like both those players, just not for us now.

Greg Monroe is a very smooth offensive player, with post moves like Big Al but is more mobile.  He has excellent high post passing skills, on a par with Noah.  He is not that good a defender for his size and is NOT a rim protector.

Kevin Love is neither a good defender nor is he a rim protector.

If I'm going to spend the money I want a high quality rim protector.  I want Jordan (although I'll think of Rondo everytime he is at the free throw line) or someone like him.

I don't know who wrote this, but Brandon Bass is making $6.9M/year this year not $10.35M.  http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/celtics.jsp

That why I thought he would be attractive at the trade deadline, he was cheap for who and what he is.  I'm glad he's with us but I thought he'd be gone.

Gasol is 30.  That should be good for 4-5 years.

If Bass is gone why would we give up Jerebko (except to get Love, which I am opposed to ESPECIALLY if we don't have an excellent baseline defender behind him to cover up his defensive weaknesses) or vice versa?

Datome, if he isn't given some minutes over the rest of this year, will probably not be with us next year.  


bob
P.S.  Nice to see you, 112288.


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Thxs Bob

Now you see me...now you don't
112288

When talking about Love and Monroe it is not for the center position but rather power forward. Sully maybe on his way out of Boston as per his 2 late show ups for walk through and his weight issue which they asked him to correct over last summer. You saw how Danny blasted him. Now he has a stress fracture which is not good especially for a big overweight player.

Perhaps a sign and trade is in the future for Sully.

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112288 these guys are bad defenders at the PF position too.

Cowen,

Who says they are not good power forward! State your source. Love has a better outside shot, is more mobile and can run the floor then Sully and he can jump.

Monroe is a better passer then Sully, better inside offensive game then Sully, and can run the floor better then Sully and can play above the rim. Sully cannot keep up with Stevens up tempo game that is why his numbers go down each quarter because he begins to cheat and pace himself. That was in several articles in the Boston sports sites last few weeks.

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Bob,

They are talking about Bass' cap hold for NEXT year as a UFA.

believe the cap holds for UFA's are 150% of the last seasons salary. so in Bass' case that would be over $10M.

of course Bass can always sign for much less, or sign elsewhere OR have his rights renounced by Ainge (in which case Boston cannot re-sign him of course).

Jerebko's cap hold for next year would  be 150% of his $4.5M salary this year or about 6.8M.

the article is correct.

and of course IF we do sign a top center, Bass and Jerebko will probably both be gone.

I doubt Sully will be moved (at least not until after the season starts) and KO will move over to his natural PF slot, with another real center to join Zeller.


as for Love or Monroe being an upgrade over Sully, I would agree. But as with everything at what PRICE?

Love if he leaves Cleveland (which he won't) would only consider it for MAX money.

Monroe will command around $12-14M , most likely.

Sully makes what $3M next year?

Give me an REAL NBA starting center for that money, sorry.

I'll stick with Sully and KO at PF for now.

112288 wrote:Cowen,

Who says they are not good power forward!  State your source.   Love has a better outside shot, is more mobile and can run the floor then Sully and he can jump.

Monroe is a better passer then Sully, better inside offensive game then Sully, and can run the floor better then Sully and can play above the rim.  Sully cannot keep up with Stevens up tempo game that is why his numbers go down each quarter because he begins to cheat and pace himself.  That was in several articles in the Boston sports sites last few weeks.

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my source is my eyes, these guys are known as bad defenders, talk about offense all you want, they are not defenders.

112288, good to see you posting again.

Sam

Cow...you state the obvious truths about Love and Monroe. However if we could get Cauley-Stein, then i would like LoVe at PF. OF course it would be great to get Gasol. Marc.

after watching Cavs shred us like a turnstile, no thats too kind a word, either Kentucky bigman would be godsend, both are better defenders than Ofafar IMO....and some still want playoff? but I'd also be happy with another quick guard. Actually I also like Dakari Johnson, playoff berth guarantees we could miss out on all 4.

Towns is probably a top 3 pick, which means we never had a chance for him.

Cauley-Stein is looking like a top 10, which means we COULD be there IF we tank the rest of this year (not going to happen).

Johnson will be there late first round, if he comes out at all.

You want a rookie to be our next starting center I want D. Jordan for the next 5 years myself. and to compete for a title in 1-2 years.

different ideas about building a team, I know.

Ainge has NEVER had the chance to go after UFA's like he can this off-season. It should be interesting to see IF the old idea that NBA players don't want to come to Boston is true

Sure we'd like to sign Jordan, but chances are so slim that's gonna happen. More likely we'll get a chance to draft Cauley-Stein...not a big chance but better than ours for Jordan. Danny could perhaps trade up for him.

why do you think Ainge has a less chance of landing Jordan, than say Love or Monroe?

If the Clippers sign Jordan to a max deal they will have about $60M tied up in three players for the next three years.

while that may not be a problem in 2016, next year they will be big time tax payers. maybe the deep pockets of the new ownership will be willing.

the Clippers have the WORST cap scenario over that time of the three teams (Cleveland and Detroit being the other two).

I agree that all three are long shots though, mostly becasue of the new TV money hitting the cap in 2016.

Asik or R. Lopez would be my second choices as UFA's to address our center weekness.

Trading up for Cauley-Stein is a nice idea, bnut I wouldn't count on him being our starting center for a couple years.

Not my choice but if you want someone without giving up picks or young talent > Larry Sanders.

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kdp59 wrote:Towns is probably a top 3 pick, which means we never had a chance for him.

Cauley-Stein is looking like a top 10, which means we COULD be there IF we tank the rest of this year (not going to happen).

Johnson  will be there late first round, if he comes out at all.

You want a rookie to be our next starting center I want D. Jordan for the next 5 years myself. and to compete for a title in 1-2 years.

different ideas about building a team, I know.

Ainge has NEVER had  the chance to go after UFA's like he can this off-season. It should be interesting to see IF the old idea that NBA players don't want to come to Boston is true

I'm all for acquiring DeAndre Jordan, I was calling him the next Bill Russell, because he is so athletic (didn't go well on this board) and now without Blake hes putting up even bigger numbers,....however realistically I don't see Clippers and Doc letting him go.

112288 wrote:Not my choice but if you want someone without giving up picks or young talent > Larry Sanders.

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headcase. how do you know he will play for you? hes talented, but so was Royce White and Vin Baker, does anyone really know what his demons are?

No thanks

I'd rather take a second round flyer on this guy instead of Sanders;



http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Robert-Upshaw-6447/

For those who advocate that the Celtics get DeAndre Jordan, you'll be glad to know that I have given Danny my full permission to go after him.  It could be that Danny would have more chances to sign DeAndre's grandfather, Michael.  But it would be nice to sew up a defensive rebounder just for money so that the crap shoot funfest, additional free agent acquisitions, and trades can be devoted to cherry picking guys who can help at other positions and who are more likely to be around when the Celtics shoot their craps.

Sam

P.S. I have also let Danny know that I would be happy to finance free throw lessons for DeAndre from Rajon Rondo.

kdp59 wrote:I'd rather take a second round flyer on this guy instead of Sanders;



http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Robert-Upshaw-6447/

nice find, this kid is definitely worth a look.

The Celtics are in a lucky situation with the 2015 draft as 4 top centers are projected to go in the top 10 picks. The Celtics can easly get a center by trading some picks or young players they have.

Jahill Okafor > Ky

Karl Towns > Ky

Willie Cauley Stein >Ky

Myles Turner >Tx

112288

kd - I'd love us to get DeAndre but I just assumed we had no shot at wresting him from the Clips. Their owners has beaucoup bucks to spend exceeding the salary cap. Beaucoup.

worcester wrote:kd - I'd love us to get DeAndre but I just assumed we had no shot at wresting him from the Clips. Their owners has beaucoup bucks to spend exceeding the salary cap. Beaucoup.

Morticia! (I mean "Cowens!"),

That's french!


gomez

Oui. Oui. (That doesn't mean going #1).