Celtics Have The Tools To Change Free-Agent Approach
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Celtics Have The Tools To Change Free-Agent Approach
C's have the tools to change free-agent approach
June 30, 2015, 4:45 pm
SHERROD BLAKELY
BOSTON – There are a handful of uber-talented free agents who are looking for a new team this summer and the Boston Celtics should be in play for all of them.
Those players have an opportunity to get paid top dollar while playing in a major East Coast market for an organization that’s clearly trending in the right direction.
And yet other than Detroit’s Greg Monroe, you will be hard-pressed to find the Celtics linked closely to any of this summer’s elite free agents.
The reason?
It has little to do with the players or the past, and a lot to do with the pitch.
Boston has a lot of positives going on right now. Everyone around the league knows this.
And yet there is a clear disconnect between what the franchise has to offer and the game’s top free agent talent wanting to be an active participant in that growth.
Given some time to think about it, it’s not that hard to come up with reasons as to why Boston’s free agent haul probably won’t include any A-listers.
If this were ‘Family Feud’ and the question was to name the reasons why elite players don’t come to Boston, these answers would probably be on the board:
-- Other teams are closer to winning now.
-- Players can make more money staying put.
-- It’s too cold in New England.
-- Taxes are too high.
See, that was easy.
But in this particular offseason, none of those reasons should be a major factor.
Ultimately Boston’s success or struggles to land top-notch talent this summer will come down to how well they sell themselves to prospective players, because everything else that you need to attract and obtain good players is in place already.
Boston has a young, feisty team led by a young head coach in Brad Stevens that showed the ability to play multiple styles depending on the personnel, and exceed expectations.
The team’s ownership and front office work in concert with one another, something that should not be taken for granted.
But ultimately players’ decisions are based on three things:
-- How much can I make?
-- How much will I play?
-- Can we win a lot of games?
The Celtics have clear potential to provide a legit opportunity at all those things, and yet they find themselves relegated – for now at least – to waiting to see what happens elsewhere with teams that on paper, at least, don’t look nearly as promising as currently constructed.
Don’t get me wrong.
Danny Ainge could shock us all and land one of the summer’s top free agents.
It’s not like he hasn’t done this fireworks in the offseason thing before (see: 2007 trades for Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett).
But Trader Danny has a much better track record at making that happen via trade than getting it done in free agency.
Which is why despite all the positives that Boston has going for itself heading into free agency, attracting the absolute best free agents on the market remains a challenge.
bob
MY NOTE: Is it just me, or is this an amazing tangle of literary gobbledygook? Did Blakely just twist himself into a pretzel before our very eyes? He lists the reasons why elite free agents don't come here, and then say those aren't a factor this year. Ok, fine. Then he lists reasons why free agents do go somewhere and say we have those things going for us and should be fine. Then he says "don't expect good things" and, of course, finishes with the usual "but I could be wrong" coda. If the Celtics "have the tools to change the free-agent approach", which is the title of this article, then why shouldn't we expect good things? And if we don't have the tools, then what is this article about? Is there no such thing as an editor at csnne?
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June 30, 2015, 4:45 pm
SHERROD BLAKELY
BOSTON – There are a handful of uber-talented free agents who are looking for a new team this summer and the Boston Celtics should be in play for all of them.
Those players have an opportunity to get paid top dollar while playing in a major East Coast market for an organization that’s clearly trending in the right direction.
And yet other than Detroit’s Greg Monroe, you will be hard-pressed to find the Celtics linked closely to any of this summer’s elite free agents.
The reason?
It has little to do with the players or the past, and a lot to do with the pitch.
Boston has a lot of positives going on right now. Everyone around the league knows this.
And yet there is a clear disconnect between what the franchise has to offer and the game’s top free agent talent wanting to be an active participant in that growth.
Given some time to think about it, it’s not that hard to come up with reasons as to why Boston’s free agent haul probably won’t include any A-listers.
If this were ‘Family Feud’ and the question was to name the reasons why elite players don’t come to Boston, these answers would probably be on the board:
-- Other teams are closer to winning now.
-- Players can make more money staying put.
-- It’s too cold in New England.
-- Taxes are too high.
See, that was easy.
But in this particular offseason, none of those reasons should be a major factor.
Ultimately Boston’s success or struggles to land top-notch talent this summer will come down to how well they sell themselves to prospective players, because everything else that you need to attract and obtain good players is in place already.
Boston has a young, feisty team led by a young head coach in Brad Stevens that showed the ability to play multiple styles depending on the personnel, and exceed expectations.
The team’s ownership and front office work in concert with one another, something that should not be taken for granted.
But ultimately players’ decisions are based on three things:
-- How much can I make?
-- How much will I play?
-- Can we win a lot of games?
The Celtics have clear potential to provide a legit opportunity at all those things, and yet they find themselves relegated – for now at least – to waiting to see what happens elsewhere with teams that on paper, at least, don’t look nearly as promising as currently constructed.
Don’t get me wrong.
Danny Ainge could shock us all and land one of the summer’s top free agents.
It’s not like he hasn’t done this fireworks in the offseason thing before (see: 2007 trades for Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett).
But Trader Danny has a much better track record at making that happen via trade than getting it done in free agency.
Which is why despite all the positives that Boston has going for itself heading into free agency, attracting the absolute best free agents on the market remains a challenge.
bob
MY NOTE: Is it just me, or is this an amazing tangle of literary gobbledygook? Did Blakely just twist himself into a pretzel before our very eyes? He lists the reasons why elite free agents don't come here, and then say those aren't a factor this year. Ok, fine. Then he lists reasons why free agents do go somewhere and say we have those things going for us and should be fine. Then he says "don't expect good things" and, of course, finishes with the usual "but I could be wrong" coda. If the Celtics "have the tools to change the free-agent approach", which is the title of this article, then why shouldn't we expect good things? And if we don't have the tools, then what is this article about? Is there no such thing as an editor at csnne?
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Re: Celtics Have The Tools To Change Free-Agent Approach
It's known as covering one's butt from several different directions. I believe he's more afraid of being wrong than desirous of being right. Maybe he felt his Monroe Doctrine fulfilled his responsibility to mention an occasional specific.
Sam
Sam
Re: Celtics Have The Tools To Change Free-Agent Approach
The whole 'Danny isn't good at free agency' crap really is starting to bug me. I started watching the Celtics when I moved to Boston in the late 80s, and I don't think the Cs have ever had any real cap space to play with in that time. Looking at what leftovers you can sign for the MLE isn't really related to what you can do when you make a max offer while also having a young team with a good coach, that made the playoffs last year, and where you can give someone the opportunity to be 'the man' as opposed to having to ride LeBron, Kobe, or Melo's coattails. There are people that should be attractive to.
The 'Boston is cold' argument also bugs me. They're playing from October to April (hopefully later), so they should be indoors most of that time in the gym, in practice, watching video, or playing actual games. And they're traveling half the season. It's not like they're moving here to be road workers. They can go live whatever warm place they want the rest of the year.
Likewise the tax argument doesn't really hold a lot of weight. MA personal income tax is much lower that that in CA, NY, IL, etc. I think the only states with NBA franchises that have zero taxes are TX (3 teams) and FL (2 teams). They might have an advantage in negotiations based on that, but only 5 teams have that advantage.
One disadvantage Boston has for the young rich and single is a crappy nightlife scene. Everything closes early, there aren't a huge number of clubs, there aren't any strip clubs and such, etc. I think that's probably more on the minds of young free agents than the weather.
-V
The 'Boston is cold' argument also bugs me. They're playing from October to April (hopefully later), so they should be indoors most of that time in the gym, in practice, watching video, or playing actual games. And they're traveling half the season. It's not like they're moving here to be road workers. They can go live whatever warm place they want the rest of the year.
Likewise the tax argument doesn't really hold a lot of weight. MA personal income tax is much lower that that in CA, NY, IL, etc. I think the only states with NBA franchises that have zero taxes are TX (3 teams) and FL (2 teams). They might have an advantage in negotiations based on that, but only 5 teams have that advantage.
One disadvantage Boston has for the young rich and single is a crappy nightlife scene. Everything closes early, there aren't a huge number of clubs, there aren't any strip clubs and such, etc. I think that's probably more on the minds of young free agents than the weather.
-V
BaronV- Posts : 158
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Re: Celtics Have The Tools To Change Free-Agent Approach
All good points, Baron. Especially the one about the minimal financial resources Danny has operated with over the years. Several times, he was hailed for finding creative ways to make something out of nothing. I'm anxious to see what he can do when operating from a reasonable position of strength. Players (at least the non-elite ones) tend to focus on things like playing time, opportunity to be in an impact role, an of course money.
As for clubs, is Howard Johnson's permanently closed? Howard was a great pole guy in his time.
Sam
As for clubs, is Howard Johnson's permanently closed? Howard was a great pole guy in his time.
Sam
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Re: Celtics Have The Tools To Change Free-Agent Approach
BaronV
" I moved to Boston in the late 80s, and I don't think the Cs have ever had any real cap space to play with in that time. "
Regarding your above point. I have spent considerable time trying to find an answer to the question of available cap space for the Celts over the years with no success. I was able to determine that the Celts payroll each year was at the Cap or higher but of coarse that doesn't show how the money was spent. My guess would be that they never were in the hunt financially to land an elite player that was still in his prime. My research, as I recall, took me back to the Mid eighties.
swish
" I moved to Boston in the late 80s, and I don't think the Cs have ever had any real cap space to play with in that time. "
Regarding your above point. I have spent considerable time trying to find an answer to the question of available cap space for the Celts over the years with no success. I was able to determine that the Celts payroll each year was at the Cap or higher but of coarse that doesn't show how the money was spent. My guess would be that they never were in the hunt financially to land an elite player that was still in his prime. My research, as I recall, took me back to the Mid eighties.
swish
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Re: Celtics Have The Tools To Change Free-Agent Approach
Thanks Swish. I didn't do any real research but was just going from memory. I can remember a lot of years where there was discussion about who would be signed with the MLE, but not any real big name free agent chases.
-V
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Re: Celtics Have The Tools To Change Free-Agent Approach
The only "big" fish that we were in the running for and lost was David West. Even he was not all that big, merely MLE-ish. He took Indy's offer for slightly more money or years, after saying it wasn't about the money, it was about winning (the dirty rat!!).
He would have kept the window open another year or so (IMO) if he would have signed with us, but in my memory, we never has cap space to chase any real big name free agents.
With a full cap after 2008, Danny was praised for the many ways he added to the core. It just didn't produce end of season results based on early season projections. Danny learned from this and now is trying a different approach; start from a core of "utes", add seasoning and then add the final piece (or pieces) to get us over the top. This may not produce a steady climb up each season, but once we get near the top, it should have a longer window of opportunity!
gyso
He would have kept the window open another year or so (IMO) if he would have signed with us, but in my memory, we never has cap space to chase any real big name free agents.
With a full cap after 2008, Danny was praised for the many ways he added to the core. It just didn't produce end of season results based on early season projections. Danny learned from this and now is trying a different approach; start from a core of "utes", add seasoning and then add the final piece (or pieces) to get us over the top. This may not produce a steady climb up each season, but once we get near the top, it should have a longer window of opportunity!
gyso
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