Perry Jones from OKC to BOSTON CELTICS

Steve Bulpett ‏@SteveBHoop
Celtics will be acquiring Perry Jones, a second round pick and cash from Oklahoma City. Not really giving up anything. Tax deal for OKC.


bob

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Steve Bulpett ‏@SteveBHoop
Second-rounder Celts getting in the Jones trade is from Detroit (Reggie Jackson trade).


bob


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that's a high second rounder to be giving up for PJ3, who's in the last year of his contract.

Hi,
Can they do Perry Jones Kevin Durant?
Just asking...

AK

Jones was projected as a lottery pick in 2012-13 but slipped way down. He's 6' 11" and can reportedly play both forward positions. As I understand it, each team received a second round pick from the other, with the pick sent to O.C. by the Celtics being protected in some manner. And O.C. Receives cash and a trade exception.

This is definitely a "Let's withhold judgment until Danny's next shoe falls" types of deals.

Sam

On further reflection, I'm guessing this will end up as a classic episode of Danny and Brad's Pimp My Career.

They've yet to buy a fixer-upper that they haven't been able to add value to, since Brad's been here. I'm not going to doubt them on this one.

I recall that a big reason PJ3 fell in the draft was because his self-esteem was really low in the his team meetings at the Combine and elsewhere before the draft.

Brad is increasingly famous for getting players to believe in themselves.

Boston Celtics Complete Trade with Oklahoma City Thunder

Posted: Jul 14, 2015


By Boston Celtics |  @Celtics
Celtics.com
July 14, 2015






BOSTON – The Boston Celtics announced today that they have acquired forward Perry Jones III from the Oklahoma City Thunder, a 2019 second round pick from the Detroit Pistons and cash considerations in exchange for a future conditional second round pick.

Jones III, a 6'11" forward, appeared in 43 contests for the Thunder during the 2014-15 regular season and averaged 4.3 points and 1.8 rebounds in 14.7 minutes per game. He recorded a season-high 32 points on 10-17 (.588) shooting from the field, seven rebounds, three assists and one block in 42 minutes of action on October 30, 2014 against the Los Angeles Clippers.

He was originally selected with the 28th overall pick in the 2012 NBA Draft by the Oklahoma City Thunder and is averaging 3.4 points and 1.8 rebounds in 11.7 minutes on his career.



bob

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jonespe01.html


VERY Athletic.  He dropped to 28th because of concerns about his knees.  I am not aware of him having any actual problems with them.

Oh yes, this is DEFINITELY a "there's another shoe to drop" situation.  We have too many guards and too many PFs.  If Jones can play SF, man, a 6'11", 245#, 7-2" wingspan, 33" vertical, 38" max vertical SF might be just what the doctor ordered to replace Wallace. Plus, this takes us up to 15 guaranteed contracts. If Mickey is going to be with the team (and he's making an extremely strong case for it) then someone else is hasta la vista, baby.

Danny NEVER sleeps.


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Here is the report I saw about Jones' knees.  Note this article was written in 2012, when he was drafted, and explains why he dropped. He was projected as a possible lottery pick until this...

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/19545670/nba-scout-perry-jones-iiis-knees-will-hold-up-for-only-34-years


NBA scout: Perry Jones III's knees will hold up for only '3-4 years'
By Royce Young | NBA writer
July 9, 2012 11:54 pm ET
 


Even before Perry Jones III impressed in his Summer League debut for Oklahoma City with 16 points and eight rebounds, it was fairly universal: The Thunder got the steal of the draft.

A lottery talent with huge ability that slipped all the way down to No. 28. What good fortune! Sam Presti had hit another home run in the draft, despite taking what seems to be the most obvious player on the board.

But it left everyone asking how, why and what. How did OKC land Jones? Why did he fall? What were other teams thinking passing on him?

The reason everyone cited: Because he was medically red flagged before the draft due to a “meniscus issue.” What that entails or how that affects him is unknown. But whatever it was, the Thunder felt good enough about it to draft Jones anyway. And bear in mind, this is a pretty fickle organization when it comes to player health. The Thunder rescinded a one-sided trade for Tyson Chandler because of a big toe.

So what's the big deal with Jones' knees? They looked pretty alright in his first game Monday and for two years at Baylor? Would 24 teams really dare pass on him just because of that? Well, consider this from Seth Davis of Sports Illustrated CBS Sports:

NBA scout told me today his team's docs believe Perry Jones's knees will only hold up for 3-4 years in the league. Explains why he dropped.

Well then. That explains things a bit. But then again, a rookie contract lasts only four seasons, so if this is really the case, the Thunder will at least get a good amount of health from Jones.

And also, people are often wrong. Doctors don't always nail this stuff. Again, Chandler. Or DeJuan Blair. But for everyone Blair, there's a Brandon Roy. Except when you're the Thunder picking 28th with an almost entirely full roster, taking a chance on a guy that might have his career shortened isn't unwise.

If Jones only has three or four good years in him, that would be a shame. He's an intriguing talent in an equally intriguing situation in OKC. He's got a heap of talent and the potential to make a whole lot of NBA executives feel silly a couple years down the road. Or maybe even get a few medical examiners fired.

Guess we'll have to wait and see.



bob



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http://nesn.com/2015/07/report-celtics-acquire-perry-jones-from-thunder-for-draft-pick-cash/


The Celtics acquired forward Perry Jones from the Oklahoma City Thunder for a second-round pick and cash, according to the Boston Herald’s Steve Bulpett. As Bulpett points out, the move largely is a salary dump for the Thunder, who will free up $7 million against the luxury tax, per RealGM.com. Boston reportedly also will receive a future second-round pick, according The Boston Globe.

Jones was a first-round pick (No. 28 overall) by the Thunder in 2012. Jones has only appeared 143 games over his three seasons with just 21 starts. Jones did get a career-high 14.7 minutes per game in 2014-15, which led to a career-high 4.3 points per game. He could be an effective player with more playing time, however, as he’s averaging 10.5 points and 5.4 rebounds per 36 minutes.

Update (3:44 p.m. ET): The Celtics formally announced the deal, which will also bring to Boston a 2019 second-round pick that originally belonged to the Detroit Pistons.


bob
MY NOTE: No mention of a 2nd rounder going FROM Boston to OKC, only the 2nd round pick OKC acquired in the Reggie Jackson deal from Detroit coming our way.


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So, why did Perry Jones III not get consistent playing time in OKC?

Depth-wise, he was behind Durant and Ibaka at the 3/4 slot, and they play heavy minutes, but Collison was getting minutes in front of him too.

Darnell Mayberry @DarnellMayberry
Kevin Durant just said he thinks Perry Jones III is the best athlete in the league.
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Rumor has it he has a questionable work ethic.  That will change or he will be gone.


bob


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So, here's the roster reset, as of 7/14/15 (Bastille Day!), guaranteed contracts only. Don't blink, it'll change.


5 - Zeller, Olynyk
4 - Johnson, Lee, Sully, Jerebko
3 - Turner, Crowder, Jones, Young
2 - Bradley, Hunter
1 - Smart, Thomas, Rozier


There's 15 contracts.  Does not include Pressey, Babb, Mickey (whose contract is being negotiated).  If Mickey signs a pro contract, sending him to Portland still means 16 guaranteed contracts (like it was with Melo and Young).

Them shoes will be a'droppin'...


bob



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who's going???????????????too many players to make happy

Here's Forsberg's take on it:


http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/13255732/oklahoma-city-thunder-trade-perry-jones-second-round-draft-pick-boston-celtics





Thunder trade Perry Jones, 2nd-round pick to Celtics

Royce Young, ESPN Staff Writer



The Oklahoma City Thunder traded forward Perry Jones, a second-round draft pick and cash to the Boston Celtics on Tuesday.

The Celtics will send the Thunder a conditional second-round pick. Boston gets the 2019 second-rounder Oklahoma City had acquired from the Detroit Pistons.



Perry Jones scored 68 points during a three-game stretch last season when Kevin Durant was sidelined with an injury. Andrew D. Bernstein/NBAE/Getty Images


The trade is strictly a luxury tax move for the Thunder, who after recently signing Enes Kanter to a $70 million deal will save roughly $7 million by trading Jones.

The deal also will create a $2.1 million trade exception for the Thunder.

Jones averaged 4.3 points and 1.8 rebounds in 43 games last season with the Thunder. He flashed his potential, though, during a three-game span early in the season when he filled in for the injured Kevin Durant and scored 32, 20 and 16 points, respectively, before badly bruising his knee and missing the next 13 games.

With a young roster in Boston, the 23-year-old Jones will fit nicely into the Celtics' plans. He's a 6-foot-11 athletic specimen, a player Durant once called "the best athlete in the league."

The Thunder selected Jones out of Baylor 28th overall in the 2012 draft after he surprisingly slipped to the bottom of the first round.

The Thunder can lower their luxury tax number even more by offloading forward Steve Novak (making $3.75 million), a move they may look to do, although a deal in that regard isn't imminent.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.



bob
MY NOTE:  "Badly bruising his knee" is not a significant injury.  Averaging almost 23ppg over 3 games filling in for Durant is significant.


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So can it be assumed Jones will suit up for the Celtics tonight?

Sam

sam wrote:So can it be assumed Jones will suit up for the Celtics tonight?

Sam

sam,

Don't think he's eligible for summer league anymore than Sully is. Same draft class.


bob


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I thought I saw that he was playing on the Oklahoma City Summer League team. Must have been in a previous year.

Sam

Steve Bulpett ‏@SteveBHoop
Jones will get a good, long look, but he's no sure bet to be on the Celtics' roster opening night. Cash from OKC makes it a no-risk move.



bob
MY NOTE:  At the worst , Danny upgraded his 2nd rounder from a highly conditioned one to Detroit's; at best we have a now motivated 6'11" SF; and somewhere in the middle he has another trading chip.


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Young is gone. So is either Sully, Thomas, Bradley, or Turner. Mickey and MT will be signed and stay. Then again there's also Holmes...

We probably all need to be careful when thinking of filling our roster with so many rookies even if they are looking good in the summer leagues.

The Celtics were deemed "too young" last season by Stevens on several occasions and they only had two true rookies and a few other younger guys.  If the four draft choices and Holmes are part of what we think will be this season's roster that will amount to FIVE actual rookies.  Plus, there are plenty of other quite young players who are not actually rookies any longer so I would think that Ainge and Stevens will be careful about how many very inexperienced players they will add in attempts to improve from the 40 wins that were last season.

I'm thinking MT and Holmes will be stored in D League. The other 3 - Rozier, Mickey, and Hunter will be on the bench.

I think Fair also deserves consideration to try to stash somewhere. However, he, Holmes and (more recently) Thornton have all performed well enough for other teams to take fliers on them.

Doesn't Perry Jones sound like a men's fashion guru? Maybe he can convince Celtics management to ditch those god-awful grey pajamas that pass for uniforms.

Sam

sam wrote:Doesn't Perry Jones sound like a men's fashion guru?  Maybe he can convince Celtics management to ditch those god-awful grey pajamas that pass for uniforms.

Sam

sam,

Perry Jones II = men's fashion designer
Perry Jones III = basketball player


bob


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sam wrote:I think Fair also deserves consideration to try to stash somewhere.  However, he, Holmes and (more recently) Thornton have all performed well enough for other teams to take fliers on them.  

Sam,

I agree with you.
With Perry Jones, Boston now has 15 on the roster, not including Fair, Mickey, Thornton, Babb and Pressey.
Of course, Babb and Pressey will be cut or traded.
I expect that Fair, Mickey and Thornton will get an NBA contract even if it's not with Boston.
Mickey is better than Young.
Boston might just have to release a player or two who has a guaranteed contract.