A new Hi-tech way to evaluate basketball players.

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Post by worcester Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:50 am

http://www.fastcodesign.com/1670059/moneyball-20-how-missile-tracking-cameras-are-remaking-the-nba

This is a fascinating article about using cameras and computers designed to track missiles to evaluate basketball players. Ten NBA teams currently use these systems. I wonder if Boston is one of them.
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Post by bobheckler Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:34 pm

worcester,

Interesting.

Personally, I'd think this has more value when applied to college players than pros. What will this technology tell an NBA coach that 10 years of games and game film won't? Who is the 2nd best rebounder? Does it really matter to a coach if he's 2nd or 3rd or even 4th? What matters is how he gets position for the boards. Does he pad his stats with missed free throws or does he stick his nose in there for a rugged rebound in traffic? Does he run loose rebounds down or does he let them go out of bounds (which neither helps nor hurts his stats, but does make a difference to the team). That type of info has value and I don't think this technology provides that.

College players, on the other hand, don't play more than 4 years and sometimes not even more than 1. Add to that the fact that a national championship year for a college player is about 1/2 of a regular NBA season, and that's not a lot of game film and NO experience by the NBA coaches coaching against them or the players expected to defend against them.

I see this as a big boon for NBA scouts.

Obviously, if 10 teams use this already, I'm missing something here.

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Post by beat Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:51 pm

Plus Bob

in college you rarely play a team more than 2X and there are few teams that you even play that many times.

So many intangebles as you say. Did Red need this when he caught his first glimps of Russ, Hondo, ect..???

Think it will help but think many coachs scouts ect will trust what they see with thier eyes on the floor not a statsheet on steroids.

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Post by worcester Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:51 pm

My quick read was that it tells a coach from where a player has most success taking his shot or after how many dribbles. I found it interesting that Westbrook wasn't so effective after five dribbles and that Durant was most effective shooting from 3 particular spots. This could help when scouting teams and setting up defensive assignments. Of course, KG already knows all this stuff, but he won't be around forever.
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Post by beat Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:55 pm

worcester wrote:My quick read was that it tells a coach from where a player has most success taking his shot or after how many dribbles. I found it interesting that Westbrook wasn't so effective after five dribbles and that Durant was most effective shooting from 3 particular spots. This could help when scouting teams and setting up defensive assignments. Of course, KG already knows all this stuff, but he won't be around forever.

I can just imagine some players now counting the opponents dribbles ( if they can count past 5) then backing off and getting burned. Of course 1/2 of those dribbles are carries and he probably traveled to start with anyway, or will travel when he picks up the dribble.
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Post by worcester Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:00 pm

( if they can count past 5) - That made me laugh! One thing I noticed about Westbrook is that he really palms the ball - and gets away with it. Who do the refs think he is, Michael Jordan?
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Post by Outside Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:02 pm

I posted another article about this a while back.

http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/tech/post/_/id/492/492
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Post by gyso Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:59 pm

Outside,

I remember that thread, here is a link to it:

https://samcelt.forumotion.net/t3410-new-nba-stats

We were in the middle of the playoffs then and a bit distracted. Now we have lots of time on our hands!!

Thanks,

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Post by beat Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:33 pm

I thought I saw this before

But counting to 5 and remembering threw me off a bit

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