The Phil Pressey Conundrum

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SHOULD PHIL PRESSEY MAKE THE CELTICS ROSTER?

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Post by bobheckler Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:47 pm

http://hardwoodhoudini.com/2014/07/06/boston-celtics-phil-pressey-conundrum/



Boston Celtics: The Phil Pressey Conundrum
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Phil Pressey belongs in the NBA. I want to make that clear from the start. He’s already proven that he’s a solid backup point guard. He has outstanding court vision, a tight handle, and holds his own on defense despite his diminutive size (5′ 11″, 175 lbs). The 7.7 assists he averaged per 36 minutes last year actually ranked ahead of Jeff Teague, Kyle Lowry, Tony Parker, Michael Carter-Williams, and Mike Conley. If you need someone who can initiate the offense (and not get killed on D) while your starters get a breather, Pressey is your guy. Phil Pressey belongs on an NBA roster. There’s just no guarantee the roster will be that of the Boston Celtics.

It’s not that the Celtics are spoiled with riches and there’s simply no room for Pressey (they aren’t). It’s not that they don’t like Pressey (they do). It’s not that Pressey played poorly for the team last year (he didn’t). But given Pressey’s height and poor shooting, he’s not a perfect complementary fit in a backcourt now headlined by Rajon Rondo, Marcus Smart, and Avery Bradley.

The ability to handle the ball is what’s keeping Pressey entrenched in a serious discussion for a roster spot. As the last two seasons have proven, Rondo is the only reliable ball-handler the team has. Bradley has shown time and time gain that he cannot play the point. Marcus Smart may eventually develop into that guy but right now he’s simply way too erratic with his dribbling and decision-making on offense. Pressey, other than Rondo, is really the only pure-point guard the team has. The Celtics don’t have outstanding 1-on-1 talent so having a second guy who control the tempo in Brad Stevens’ spread, flex, and box sets is important.

It’s hard to ignore the potential complications of making Pressey your “4th guard”, however. Bradley has proven he can be a disruptive on ball defender if he’s guarding the point. He’s generously listed at 6′ 3″. When guarding the opposing SG last season, Bradley allowed a PER of 17.2 (compared to 15.2 when guarding PG’s, which is average). Those numbers against SG’s don’t scream elite defender. In fact, they scream below average defender. Having Avery Bradley guard strictly SG’s takes away his one major advantage (overwhelming on-ball pressure). We know Rondo, despite his best efforts, can’t guard anyone taller than 6′ 4″. Pressey being the 4th guard brings up some questions.

Marcus Smart answers some of them with his ability to guard both spots thanks to being a legit 6′ 4″ with a 6′ 9″ wingspan. He physically strong and athletic enough to run with any guard in the NBA. But Smart is just one guy, and he’s a rookie. Unless someone like James Young can make major defensive strides quicker than expected the Celtics will be in a lot of trouble defending the wings. Jeff Green is solid if unspectacular defensively at the 3 spot but his versatility extends just from 3′s to small-ball 4′s. Chris Johnson, who has a chance to make the roster, is serviceable out on the wing defensively but he doesn’t give you much on offense so he’s not very valuable.

The Celtics are a dreadful perimeter shooting team, tied for 27th in the NBA last season, and Pressey doesn’t project to help that in any way. His inability to shoot at his height is the major reason he went undrafted. He shot just 32.4% from deep during his final year at Missouri and just 26.4% from deep during his rookie season with the Celtics. Bradley shooting 39.5% from deep last season might’ve been a fluke. The shooting struggles of Rondo and Smart are well-documented. Even if Pressey was to make a dramatic improve from deep, to somewhere around 31%, he still holds you back. The Celtics don’t have the individual talent or dominant post play to be a a terrible shooting team.

Now if the Celtics plan to trade Rondo, either now or before the deadline, this all needs to be looked at differently. All of a sudden Pressey would become almost indispensable unless the Celtics were to get a legit NBA point guard in return. That’s all speculation and the only thing Pressey can do is to play his ass off in the summer league. He did so last year and that’s how he made the roster. His contract for this season is not guaranteed, so the Celtics can cut him at any point up until February without repercussion.


If I have to bet on it today, I’d say Pressey will make the roster. The Celtics are too starved for talent to just let a player as good as Pressey walk. The concerns are completely legitimate. He doesn’t help this backcourt get any bigger or better at shooting. But he can handle the ball and could step into major minutes if a trade or injury happens.

Pressey might not make the Celtics. If that’s the case, I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a nice list of NBA suitors seeking his services.




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Post by Sam Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:16 pm

Not exactly a glowing endorsement of Bradley's defense, although the use of Hollinger's PER to make the point gives me agita. The way things went last season, Phil represented our only chance to see the Celtics pushing the ball on offense. There are just too many unknowns about this season to dump him any time soon.

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Post by Berlin-T Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:22 am

I voted yes as Pressey is the only point guard we have that can run Steven's offense. Unless of course Rondo takes a walk on the road to Damascus.
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Post by hawksnestbeach Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:48 am

I think Phil is valuable with the current roster and a relative bargain with his busboy salary. If Smart develops quickly and Rondo stays, Phil could become superfluous, but for now, he's got my vote. Hawk

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Post by k_j_88 Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:09 am

Keep Phil, he's a known factor that can produce.

As far as the offense goes, does anyone really know what offense Stevens wants to run? I don't.



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Post by sinus007 Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:32 am

Sam,
I'm with you about "PER" - legacy of a charlatan lives on, alas. What can you do.
In general, the author, IMO, based this article on stats he pulled out of web sources without actually following, watching the players he wrote about. For instance, "... We know Rondo, despite his best efforts, can’t guard anyone taller than 6′ 4″ ..." - how about "We have seen Rondo guarding 6-8 Lebron". Then "... Bradley shooting 39.5% from deep last season might’ve been a fluke ..." - a fluke that lasted the whole season? Really? And then he has the numbers that scream that AB is not an elite defender and the same numbers scream (again? thank goodness I have noise-cancelling headphones) that he's a bellow average defender. Strange - I thought that the general consensus in the NBA is that AB is an elite defender.
Sorry, I got distracted. I voted yes for PP. With an asterisk - he has to dramatically improve his shooting.

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Post by kdp59 Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:52 pm

He just might be the worst shooting guard in the NBA.

seems like a nice guy, works hard, good ball handler, etc.

but he won't be on any NBA rosters for a team that is competing, IMO.
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Post by NYCelt Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:14 pm

kdp59 wrote:He just might be the worst shooting guard in the NBA.

seems like a nice guy, works hard, good ball handler, etc.

but he won't be on any NBA rosters for a team that is competing, IMO
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Post by bobheckler Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:30 pm

I voted 'yes'.

He's an excellent floor general, even surprisingly so given that PG probably has the biggest learning curve of any position.  He is one of the fastest players in the league with the ball and has shown he is more than willing to run, baby, run.

Defensively, he's a real pest.  There is a bunch of new, undersized point guards in the league that are 6'2" and under (Shabazz Napier, Isaiah Thomas, Chris Paul, Tony Parker, Rondo, Jennings) and, if you want to stay in front of them, you need to be of comparable size and speed.

Last, but not least, he's cheap.

As far as his shooting goes, yes that needs to improve, but it is definitely something that can be improved.  Jason Kidd was NOT a good shooter when he came in the league.  When he retired he was 3rd all time in 3pt fgm, with a career 3ptfg% of 35%.  Shooting can be learned over time.  I do not believe you can teach someone how to be a point guard.  You either got it, or you don't.



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Post by Outside Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:37 pm

I don't see him being a part of the rotation on a contender, but there are additional spots on the roster, and he'd be fine at the end of the bench. There are some matchups where a small can be effective.
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Post by hawksnestbeach Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:45 pm

I vote to keep him because he is serviceable, hard-working, inexpensive, basically an insurance policy. At the same time, he could become superfluous if we keep stockpiling guards. Hawk

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