Should the Celtics pursue a trade for DeMarcus Cousins?

Shamrock,

Sure the Kings could make him available. Their rebuild project with him as the key piece has not really progressed as planned and they still play in by far the toughest division. It looks like they are bringing in a veteran coach on a fairly long term deal which could signal 'starting over'. Possibly getting 3 number one picks and a couple of second round picks may tempt them and no team has as many such picks over such a short period of time as the Celtics.

I am sure that there are many ways for the Celtics to gather plenty of information about what makes any player tick either from players who know him and/or administrators talking about him so whether to even discuss this guy coming to Boston has likely already been done. Of course, every team has video of every minute he has played at their convenience as well. What we read about him or possibly see on the court is likely to be about10% of the available information.

He is an amazing talent as his numbers prove. He is still quite young and is probably just reaching his prime. He is a true center who all of the top teams in the west have trouble with just about every night. The Celtics are certainly searching for such a guy and have plenty of assets to get him.

I am sure that Ainge is right on top of everything that is necessary about Cousins availability at this point. It is his job to be one phone call away from all such information and I am positive that he does his job on things like this every day.

not much of a defensive player and in no way a shot blocker.

that said IF the Kings woudl like to give him away for the clippers pick..i'd be all in....LOL.

Whether to pursue a trade for Cousins is an interesting question. In years past, I would've said "no" in a heartbeat, but now I think I'd say "yes... no... maybe... arrrgh, my head."

It would certainly be a risky, "all in" move. At the end of the day, I don't think I'd risk the entire rebuild on a mercurial, temperamental, enigmatic player. I doesn't help that I can't get these videos out of my head.

DeMarcus Cousins is a few cards short of a full deck. Not interested in bringing the madness here.

A lot of the question on Jordan revolves around personality.  Maybe a comparison is appropriate.

When Pierce arrived here, he was a punk.  He grew up as a person.  We could have dumped him, but I'm sure glad we didn't.  He started to show enough signs of personal growth that we built around him.

Jordan seems to be viewed the same way, but like Pierce, seems to be growing up.  He's a defensive force, which we could really use.  I would take the chance and try to acquire him.

Unfortunately, by my guess, there is no way in the world we can end up getting him.  We probably don't have what it would take, and I think he'll be with the Clips for a long while. I would bet the idea is moot.  Like that term..."moot."  Don't see it much.

Couple of questions.

Where do you get the idea that Paul Pierce was a "punk"?

Every story I have read about him said he was a gym rat to stay off the streets and stay out of trouble.

Second, this article is about DeMarcus Cousins not DeAndre Jordan????

If Demarcus is outgrowing his knucklehead stage I'd sure want him. The guy is talented.

But of course if he is growing up the Kings would be crazy to deal him.

Maybe the press portrayed him as a punk because he's a black guy from a bad neighborhood in LA. Knifed and nearly killed in a night club? What was he doing hanging out in such an unsavory place?

Of course Bird injured his hand in a bar fight but that was seen as just boys will be boys that unfortunately crossed the line, especially since the injured hand affected his play when Philly bounced the team from the playoffs.

I never thought of Pierce as a punk but I did think there was something to his growing reputation early in his career as a me-first guy going for his numbers. It did take me a while to accept him as not just a great talent but also a team player.

I have DJed at that club probably 50 times. It was not an unsavory spot by any means. $15 dollars for a vodka and soda is not a thug club at all.

It was simply a matter of wrong place at the wrong time - a young kid coming to town and flashing his money and gold chains and ran into the wrong person at the wrong time. Could have happened to any one of us.

I have no idea what the club was like where Pierce got stabbed. My comment was about the tone of the media reporting what happened.

mrkleen09 wrote:Couple of questions.

Where do you get the idea that Paul Pierce was a "punk"?  

Every story I have read about him said he was a gym rat to stay off the streets and stay out of trouble.  

Second, this article is about DeMarcus Cousins not DeAndre Jordan????

Sorry, reading two articles one after the other and crossed up players.  Maybe it's the "De" prefix in their given name.  I've done it before.  I've switched those two up in name and team about a dozen times now...  I had apologized in a post yesterday for any future oversights from my having no time and making quick hits here, so I'll apply it again.

When Pierce first got here everything I read about him indicated he had an attitude that it was all about him, same at Kansas.

Even the antics he would pull during games and responses in press conferences showed contempt for anyone around him.

I'm using the term punk, you could use whatever term you want to substitute; head case, problem, etc.  My point was simply Pierce was a problem personality too, but like Pierce, Cousins seems to be growing out of it.

Regardless, I don't see Cousins (or Jordan) ending up here.  I don't think we have the assets to trade or the cash that it will take, without tying up too much of what we're finally freeing up.  The Kings (or Clippers) will want to hang onto him (or them).

Of course, ask me again and I'll switch their teams around for them.

DeAndre Jordan!!!!!!


now your talking man!

BTW, he is an UFA next season and the Clippers have no holds on him (except the nice weather, the big city and may be Doc as HC)

only problem is that darn bad FT shooting, he makes Rondo look like Rick Barry.

so maybe pass on the best defensive center in the NBA now...sigh.


how abut that Robin Lopez up in Portland though!!

kdp59 wrote:DeAndre Jordan!!!!!!


now your talking man!

BTW, he is an UFA next season and the Clippers have no holds on him (except the nice weather, the big city and may be Doc as HC)

only problem is that darn bad FT shooting, he makes Rondo look like Rick Barry.

so maybe pass on the best defensive center in the NBA now...sigh.


how abut that Robin Lopez up in Portland though!!

kdp,

I'd comment on it, but we would end up with Brook.

I don't know about Robin Lopez.  I read something in the sports section that his girlfriend can really thump him at golf, said she out-drives him by a mile.  

You'd think a 7-foot guy could out-drive a girl.  Sounds kind of weak.

Regards

NYCelt,

Unless he's being really crafty.

By the way, Beth Havlicek used to croak John at golf too. I'm not sure whether he spent so much time watching her address the ball that he developed a permanent shank himself.

Sam

Sam,

Clever wording.

Lopez' girlfriend is Michelle Wie, so I guess it's understandable.

Regards

We need a rim protector. Is Cousins a rim protector? End of question.



bob



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While I'm not high on getting a center who's not Mr. Intimidator on defense, I do think the possible availability of Cousins demonstrates one thing. Centers with good credentials can come on the trade market. Just as Asik did last year. Just as Shaq did years ago. Just as Robin Lopez did twice in two years.

So it can happen. Whether Danny has the resources to satisfy such a trade, or whether he can arrange a multi-team trade is problematic, but I would never say never.

Sam