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Post by 112288 Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:26 pm

Celtics coach Brad Stevens wants Evan Turner back in green

Chris Forsberg

ESPN Staff Writer

WALTHAM, Mass. -- Evan Turner is admittedly intrigued by his impending foray into unrestricted free agency, but he's not necessarily excited. If he had his druthers, he would simply sign somewhere on July 1 and be done with it. It won't be that simple, particularly if Turner gives strong consideration to returning to Boston, and he might have to exercise some patience with the process.

But there is one thing that Turner is sure of with free agency: "It's going to be way better than two years ago, right?" he deadpanned.

Two years ago, Turner barely registered on the free-agency radar. The former No. 2 pick had been dealt to the Indiana Pacers at the 2014 trade deadline, but the top-seeded Pacers bowed out in the Eastern Conference finals and Turner was criticized for being unable to make an impact.

Turner waited nearly three weeks into free agency in the summer of 2014 before the Celtics signed him to a modest two-year, $6.7 million contract.

With virtually no expectations on a rebuilding Boston squad, Turner emerged as an invaluable Swiss Army knife that coach Brad Stevens could rely on in myriad roles. Turner might have even been the team's MVP during the 2014-15 campaign (even if it was Isaiah Thomas' midseason arrival that ultimately boosted Boston into the playoffs).

The Celtics wouldn't have been nearly as successful this past season without Turner's presence. The 27-year-old swingman averaged 10.5 points, 4.9 rebounds, and 4.4 assists during the 2015-16 season. He spent most of the season in a reserve role and finished fifth in the voting for Sixth Man of the Year. Turner eventually elevated to a starting role in the postseason -- helping Boston produce its two playoff wins -- while providing balanced contributions.

Turner is set to be Boston's only true unrestricted free agent this summer, assuming the team extends qualifying offers to big men Jared Sullinger and Tyler Zeller. Turner knows there is definite interest from the Celtics in bringing him back, and he's absolutely intrigued by sticking around, but Boston's more pressing needs are likely to put Turner on the back burner on July 1.

"Coach [Stevens] definitely said [he wants me back]," said Turner. "He said he’ll be pushing for me and everything like that. And that’s pretty much it. But there’s a lot of stuff that’s going on right now. I understand it. And I understand what’s going to occur, with the draft picks and the young guys trying to develop and trying to get a superstar, stuff like that. I definitely comprehend it."

After going through exit interviews with Celtics brass on Friday, Turner said that a winning organization is at the top of his offseason wish list. He said "money's cool" but he prefers a situation where he can play and compete for a title.

The Celtics will not have the luxury of Bird Rights to sign Turner this summer; they would have to use an exception or available cap space. That means the team is likely to chase the bigger fish in the free-agency pond before circling back to him. It's likely the team will stress their interest and hope Turner remains patient. Just how much they can spend -- and the role they can offer -- will hinge on the moves made at the start of free agency.

Stevens has expressed a sincere fondness for Turner and the flexibility he affords with his skill set. Turner gives his teams an extra ball-handler, a skilled scorer who can create off the dribble, and has improved his defense to where Stevens could trust him against most bigger guards or smaller forwards.

"I can’t imagine anybody being more valuable off the bench than Evan," said Stevens. "He’s been extremely valuable. He guards three positions a night, sometimes four positions. Obviously we have him with the ball all the time. He’s just had a great year and really impacted us in the last two years."

Turner struggled mightily with his 3-point shot before the All-Star break this season (shooting 14.5 percent and often joking about those woes) then was one of the most efficient shooters in the league beyond the arc after the break while shooting 52.4 percent (largely while sticking to his corner sweetspot and limiting his attempts).

The Celtics had a defensive rating of 100 with Turner on the floor, the best mark on the team of the seven Celtics players who logged at least 1,400 minutes. In the postseason, Turner held the Hawks to 32.4 percent shooting in six playoff games (24 of 74). Even during the regular season, his opponents shot just 42.4 percent, or 1.2 percent below their season average, according to the NBA's player-tracking data.

Turner takes pride in his improvements as a defender. On Friday he said, "I’ve had moments where I felt like I was being picked on, early in my career, and now I somewhat feel confident versus any offensive player, to guard them. ... Whatever it takes to stay on the floor, it’s the most important thing. You never want to be a liability."

If Celtics reporters had their way, we'd pitch in and fund a (very tiny) portion of Turner's next contract. Turner received the first annual Jeff Twiss Award from the Boston chapter of the Pro Basketball Writers Association for his cooperation with the media. Turner was always available, win or lose, and never gave stock answers. Turner is one of the most quotable players in the league and mixed humor with unvarnished opinions.

Probed about his impending free agency on Friday, Turner noted he doesn't like to fly, so he's not planning any sort of league-wide trek to meet with interested teams. And he's not obsessing about how things will ultimately play out.

"I don't really know what I think about during the day, but it's not [free agency]," said Turner. "It'll be cool. Once again, I'll stay out of trouble until then, and try to keep bettering myself and growing."

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Post by wideclyde Sun May 01, 2016 11:43 am

I am sure that Ainge also likes what Turner has been able to add to the Cs for the last two seasons as well.

Resigning him will be determined by his salary needs and what else the Cs do in the draft, trades and free agency. Turner was quoted somewhere saying that he completely understood the entire situation so I guess that he is prepared to not worry about any contract stuff (at least yet).

I liked him as well and could see the Cs keeping him if his salary ends up being similar to Bradley's current contract, which, by the way would more than double Turner's current salary and keep him in a place that he apparently likes.

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Post by bobheckler Sun May 01, 2016 12:17 pm

Evan Turner's high, loose dribble has driven me crazy for 2 years now, but towards the end he seemed to settle down a bit. I thought he upped his game in the playoffs, and that is a key factor I am looking for in a player moving forward.

This article nails it, and he seems to accept it. Because he is an unrestricted free agent, because the Celtics do not have Bird Rights and because he is not a top tier free agent prospect he will have to wait until the dust settles a bit before he will be able to wrap things up, even with another club.


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Post by dboss Sun May 01, 2016 12:42 pm

If Turner played better Defense And had range consistent with SG/SF he would be a must resign player.

ET is not coming home.

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Post by wideclyde Sun May 01, 2016 12:57 pm

Dboss,

Turner is not an elite player even if you could shoot better, but he is a very good player almost just the way he is, in my opinion. I think that for what he was asked to do in Boston, he did very well.

His defense was far better this year, but his outside shooting was not very good for sure. But, he filled some major needs with the way the Cs roster was constructed. Mostly for me, he handled the ball quite well and after Thomas was about the only guy on the roster who could create his own shot.

Of course, if a couple of top level shooters can be added as wing players and a true point guard is added to go along with Thomas then Turner is not as valuable to the Cs.

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Post by NYCelt Sun May 01, 2016 1:40 pm

Turner had a nice year and was a real contributor.  Even so, I think this is just one of the kind things you say when a guy plays hard for you all season.

Turner's wing spot in this offense really calls for someone with better outside shooting.  If Rozier continues to develop as the second point guard, or should we draft or otherwise acquire another playmaking guard, Turner becomes less critical as a patch when Thomas is out.  Along with that development at guard, and looking at small forward, Turner plus Crowder make a decent pair, and combined almost make one complete small forward, except for the shooting.  Should we pick up a shooter at that spot, with Crowder able to come off the bench and defend a couple of positions, Turner isn't really needed at all.
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Post by beat Sun May 01, 2016 1:49 pm

Looking at the obvious............would Brad say anything else like he doesn't want him back?

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Post by k_j_88 Mon May 02, 2016 3:49 pm

Evan Turner was mainly in such a role out of necessity. I suspect that with better shooters around, he wouldn't have seen as much time.



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Post by Outside Mon May 02, 2016 3:56 pm

k_j_88 wrote:Evan Turner was mainly in such a role out of necessity. I suspect that with better shooters around, he wouldn't have seen as much time.
Actually, I think if he had better shooters around him, he'd be more effective. Turner is pretty effective creating off the dribble and in the post, both for himself and others, and that skillset reminds me of what Shaun Livingston does for Golden State -- limited range, but good midpost game and able to make passes. Livingston is more effective because he's surround by shooters, which opens up the court for him and makes his game complementary to theirs, and I think the same could be the case for Turner.
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Post by kdp59 Tue May 03, 2016 8:35 am

one possible choice to replace Turner could be Evan Fournier-Orl.

one of the better 3 point shooters in the NBA , so IF Danny wants to add shooters he might one to keep an eye on.

he is a RFA however and Danny would probably have to make an offer the Magic wouldn't match.
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