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While Celtics show patience, Jaylen Brown races ahead
by bobheckler Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:27 am
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While Celtics show patience, Jaylen Brown races ahead
12:35 PM PT
Chris Forsberg
ESPN Staff Writer
When the Chicago Bulls visit TD Garden on Sunday (3:30 p.m. ET, ABC), there will be Boston Celtics fans that look out at Jimmy Butler and lament what could have been.
Twice in the past nine months, the Celtics and Bulls have chatted about the availability of the 27-year-old All-Star. And when draft night and the trade deadline passed without Boston making a big-splash move -- for Butler or otherwise -- many Celtics fan lamented the team's inability to add the sort of impact player that might have delivered Boston to the next level of contender status.
What's often overlooked, particularly as the Celtics jockey for a top seed in the Eastern Conference, is what remains because of the patience that Boston's front office has demonstrated in pursuit of more talent. As Jaylen Brown makes encouraging strides, Celtics fans ought to wonder if the 20-year-old rookie might eventually emerge as a key piece on Boston's next title-contending team.
Jaylen Brown has offered much more than showtime dunks since the All-Star break. He is shooting 45.8 percent from 3-point range and has been one of the Celtics' best perimeter defenders. Fernando Medina/NBAE via Getty Images
If a Butler deal had gone down, Brown wouldn't be here (and, if you roll the clock back further to the Justise Winslow pursuit in 2015, Brooklyn's 2016 pick could have been moved then, too). Last June, rumors persisted that the Bulls were intrigued by Boston's No. 3 pick with the goal of adding point guard Kris Dunn. No deal materialized and the Celtics elected to execute their pick. The selection of Brown was met with groans and when Celtics co-owner Wyc Grousbeck addressed the crowd at the team's draft party at TD Garden, Brown's name was booed.
But Brown started winning over fans almost immediately with both his personality and the flashes of athleticism shown at summer league. Now he's a key rotation player on a Boston team with lofty postseason aspirations and while there's certainly a long road of development that Brown must still travel, his advancement should tide over Boston fans until the quest for more talent begins anew after May's draft lottery.
In the nine games since the All-Star break, Brown is averaging 11.6 points per game while shooting 55.7 percent from the floor and 45.8 percent beyond the 3-point arc (the best shooting percentages among non-bigs in Boston's rotation players in that span). He's chipped in 4.4 rebounds, 1.6 assists, and 0.7 steals over 24.3 minutes per game in those games.
"I’m not sure I would have thought that [Brown] would be where he is right now, just because I thought that he had a lot of things that he really would have to improve on to be able to add value to winning at this level," Celtics coach Brad Stevens said. "And he’s proven that he can pick things up on the fly and that he can play at a high level. I know there’s going to be ups and downs with anybody -- and certainly with a 20-year-old -- but he’s got a chance to be pretty darn good."
Stevens is extremely measured in his praise, particularly of younger players. For him to deliver such plaudits speaks volumes about the way Brown has been able to ascend to a key role in a short time.
Despite the encouraging uptick in post All-Star production, Brown's play hasn't necessarily translated to team success. The Celtics own a net rating of minus-6.4 points per 100 possessions during Brown's floor time in those nine games and that net rating jumps to plus-2.9 when he's off the floor. Only fellow bench-mobber Marcus Smart has worse on/off splits among regulars and Boston is 4-5 overall in those games.
Brown has done a heck of a job muscling his way on to the national NBA radar since the All-Star break. It started in Detroit where Brown's late-game 3-pointer (while being fouled) helped Boston escape with a 104-98 triumph. Last Sunday against the Lakers, Brown brought a little Showtime back to Los Angeles. On Wednesday night, Brown was the subject of some finger-pointing from two-time reigning MVP Stephen Curry before Boston locked down the Warriors in the fourth quarter.
Brown elevated to starting shooting guard before the All-Star break while Avery Bradley was out with an Achilles strain and went 9-1 as a starter before a sore hip sidelined him for three games. Stevens has noted how simply having to defend some of the league's top swingmen has forced Brown to improve as a defender.
Bradley, an All-Defense first-teamer last season, has been effusive in his praise of Brown even since returning. After Brown's highlight-reel session against the Lakers, Bradley proclaimed, "Jaylen’s improving every single game. He’s going to be a special player."
When Brown stays with his man, he's excellent at using his size and strength to make things difficult. Synergy Sports' defensive data has Brown allowing 0.83 points per play and ranking in the 80th percentile among all NBA players. The league's player-tracking data suggests that Brown holds opponents to 41.3 percent shooting, which is 3.5 percent below those players' season average. It's prudent to remember that neither metric can quite measure the instances where Brown loses his man or blows an assignment that might have led to a basket with another teammate nearby.
Bradley said Brown cannot get complacent with the strides he's made. Stevens is as hard on Brown as anyone on the team, often getting on him about defensive miscues from the sideline.
Offensively, Brown must continue to improve his free throw shooting (67.5 percent), especially because he's one of the few Celtics players with an ability to consistently get to the line with the way he attacks the basket.
Considering the rather underwhelming nature of this year's draft class, Brown almost certainly deserves more buzz for what he's doing for a playoff-bound team. Even with the Celtics healthier, Stevens continues to lean on Brown for key second-unit minutes as Boston eyes the Cavaliers at the top of the East and tries to fend off the Wizards' push for the No. 2 seed.
Patience isn't easy in the NBA, especially when Boston fans are eager to further expedite this team's return to being a title contender. The downside to not adding more proven talent is the inconsistencies the Celtics demonstrated on their most recent road trip, including fumbling away a game in Phoenix and responding to Wednesday's win over the Warriors by getting steamrolled by a sub-.500 Nuggets squad.
As the Cavaliers and Warriors stumble a bit, it's fair for fans to wonder what might have been possible if the Celtics had made a big-splash move. It didn't happen, and the Celtics are banking that by not overpaying for another star, they'll be able to both groom young talent and pursue another star this summer.
The Celtics are hoping their patience will be rewarded, though it might help calm the masses if Brown continues to jump on his own accelerator.
bob
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While Celtics show patience, Jaylen Brown races ahead
12:35 PM PT
Chris Forsberg
ESPN Staff Writer
When the Chicago Bulls visit TD Garden on Sunday (3:30 p.m. ET, ABC), there will be Boston Celtics fans that look out at Jimmy Butler and lament what could have been.
Twice in the past nine months, the Celtics and Bulls have chatted about the availability of the 27-year-old All-Star. And when draft night and the trade deadline passed without Boston making a big-splash move -- for Butler or otherwise -- many Celtics fan lamented the team's inability to add the sort of impact player that might have delivered Boston to the next level of contender status.
What's often overlooked, particularly as the Celtics jockey for a top seed in the Eastern Conference, is what remains because of the patience that Boston's front office has demonstrated in pursuit of more talent. As Jaylen Brown makes encouraging strides, Celtics fans ought to wonder if the 20-year-old rookie might eventually emerge as a key piece on Boston's next title-contending team.
Jaylen Brown has offered much more than showtime dunks since the All-Star break. He is shooting 45.8 percent from 3-point range and has been one of the Celtics' best perimeter defenders. Fernando Medina/NBAE via Getty Images
If a Butler deal had gone down, Brown wouldn't be here (and, if you roll the clock back further to the Justise Winslow pursuit in 2015, Brooklyn's 2016 pick could have been moved then, too). Last June, rumors persisted that the Bulls were intrigued by Boston's No. 3 pick with the goal of adding point guard Kris Dunn. No deal materialized and the Celtics elected to execute their pick. The selection of Brown was met with groans and when Celtics co-owner Wyc Grousbeck addressed the crowd at the team's draft party at TD Garden, Brown's name was booed.
But Brown started winning over fans almost immediately with both his personality and the flashes of athleticism shown at summer league. Now he's a key rotation player on a Boston team with lofty postseason aspirations and while there's certainly a long road of development that Brown must still travel, his advancement should tide over Boston fans until the quest for more talent begins anew after May's draft lottery.
In the nine games since the All-Star break, Brown is averaging 11.6 points per game while shooting 55.7 percent from the floor and 45.8 percent beyond the 3-point arc (the best shooting percentages among non-bigs in Boston's rotation players in that span). He's chipped in 4.4 rebounds, 1.6 assists, and 0.7 steals over 24.3 minutes per game in those games.
"I’m not sure I would have thought that [Brown] would be where he is right now, just because I thought that he had a lot of things that he really would have to improve on to be able to add value to winning at this level," Celtics coach Brad Stevens said. "And he’s proven that he can pick things up on the fly and that he can play at a high level. I know there’s going to be ups and downs with anybody -- and certainly with a 20-year-old -- but he’s got a chance to be pretty darn good."
Stevens is extremely measured in his praise, particularly of younger players. For him to deliver such plaudits speaks volumes about the way Brown has been able to ascend to a key role in a short time.
Despite the encouraging uptick in post All-Star production, Brown's play hasn't necessarily translated to team success. The Celtics own a net rating of minus-6.4 points per 100 possessions during Brown's floor time in those nine games and that net rating jumps to plus-2.9 when he's off the floor. Only fellow bench-mobber Marcus Smart has worse on/off splits among regulars and Boston is 4-5 overall in those games.
Brown has done a heck of a job muscling his way on to the national NBA radar since the All-Star break. It started in Detroit where Brown's late-game 3-pointer (while being fouled) helped Boston escape with a 104-98 triumph. Last Sunday against the Lakers, Brown brought a little Showtime back to Los Angeles. On Wednesday night, Brown was the subject of some finger-pointing from two-time reigning MVP Stephen Curry before Boston locked down the Warriors in the fourth quarter.
Brown elevated to starting shooting guard before the All-Star break while Avery Bradley was out with an Achilles strain and went 9-1 as a starter before a sore hip sidelined him for three games. Stevens has noted how simply having to defend some of the league's top swingmen has forced Brown to improve as a defender.
Bradley, an All-Defense first-teamer last season, has been effusive in his praise of Brown even since returning. After Brown's highlight-reel session against the Lakers, Bradley proclaimed, "Jaylen’s improving every single game. He’s going to be a special player."
When Brown stays with his man, he's excellent at using his size and strength to make things difficult. Synergy Sports' defensive data has Brown allowing 0.83 points per play and ranking in the 80th percentile among all NBA players. The league's player-tracking data suggests that Brown holds opponents to 41.3 percent shooting, which is 3.5 percent below those players' season average. It's prudent to remember that neither metric can quite measure the instances where Brown loses his man or blows an assignment that might have led to a basket with another teammate nearby.
Bradley said Brown cannot get complacent with the strides he's made. Stevens is as hard on Brown as anyone on the team, often getting on him about defensive miscues from the sideline.
Offensively, Brown must continue to improve his free throw shooting (67.5 percent), especially because he's one of the few Celtics players with an ability to consistently get to the line with the way he attacks the basket.
Considering the rather underwhelming nature of this year's draft class, Brown almost certainly deserves more buzz for what he's doing for a playoff-bound team. Even with the Celtics healthier, Stevens continues to lean on Brown for key second-unit minutes as Boston eyes the Cavaliers at the top of the East and tries to fend off the Wizards' push for the No. 2 seed.
Patience isn't easy in the NBA, especially when Boston fans are eager to further expedite this team's return to being a title contender. The downside to not adding more proven talent is the inconsistencies the Celtics demonstrated on their most recent road trip, including fumbling away a game in Phoenix and responding to Wednesday's win over the Warriors by getting steamrolled by a sub-.500 Nuggets squad.
As the Cavaliers and Warriors stumble a bit, it's fair for fans to wonder what might have been possible if the Celtics had made a big-splash move. It didn't happen, and the Celtics are banking that by not overpaying for another star, they'll be able to both groom young talent and pursue another star this summer.
The Celtics are hoping their patience will be rewarded, though it might help calm the masses if Brown continues to jump on his own accelerator.
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Re: While Celtics show patience, Jaylen Brown races ahead
by dboss Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:03 pm
I do not agree with this assessment.
"Considering the rather underwhelming nature of this year's draft class,"
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"Considering the rather underwhelming nature of this year's draft class,"
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Re: While Celtics show patience, Jaylen Brown races ahead
by gyso Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:00 pm
dboss wrote:I do not agree with this assessment.
"Considering the rather underwhelming nature of this year's draft class,"
dboss
I think the author meant this PAST year's draft class (2016), not this NEXT year's draft class (2017).
Does that make a difference to you?
Was the 2016 draft class not rather underwhelming so far?
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Re: While Celtics show patience, Jaylen Brown races ahead
by dboss Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:09 pm
gyso wrote:dboss wrote:I do not agree with this assessment.
"Considering the rather underwhelming nature of this year's draft class,"
dboss
I think the author meant this PAST year's draft class (2016), not this NEXT year's draft class (2017).
Does that make a difference to you?
Was the 2016 draft class not rather underwhelming so far?
gyso
Read twice, cut once. I can see that now. I agree to the extent that the first year production has been underwhelming. The final determination may be relevant 2-3 years up the road.
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Re: While Celtics show patience, Jaylen Brown races ahead
by dboss Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:24 am
When JB came out of California as a one and done player there were legit questions about his jump shooting.
He has been working on his shooting technique all year and there has been a definite improvement. But I think he can get even better. The hitch is gone and he is maintaining great balance and form. He just need to perhaps not keep his feet so close together. He also needs to work on his free throw shooting which I think is more of a mental issue than it is a technique issue.
In February he play 9 games. He averaged 25.6 MPG and scored 10.4 PPG with 3.9 rebounds. He also shot .492% and an eye opening .455% from behind the arc.
So far during the month of March he has played 23.6 MMP and has averaged 10.6 PPG with 4.7 rebounds. He has shot .516% and .400% from behind the arc.
Overall I am very pleased with the way this young man has been playing and I think he will be a mid teens scorer by next year. These are the type of young talented players that you build championship teams with.
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He has been working on his shooting technique all year and there has been a definite improvement. But I think he can get even better. The hitch is gone and he is maintaining great balance and form. He just need to perhaps not keep his feet so close together. He also needs to work on his free throw shooting which I think is more of a mental issue than it is a technique issue.
In February he play 9 games. He averaged 25.6 MPG and scored 10.4 PPG with 3.9 rebounds. He also shot .492% and an eye opening .455% from behind the arc.
So far during the month of March he has played 23.6 MMP and has averaged 10.6 PPG with 4.7 rebounds. He has shot .516% and .400% from behind the arc.
Overall I am very pleased with the way this young man has been playing and I think he will be a mid teens scorer by next year. These are the type of young talented players that you build championship teams with.
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Re: While Celtics show patience, Jaylen Brown races ahead
by worcester Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:54 am
Here's Bulpett's take on JB, for the Boston Herald: Sky's the limit -
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2017/03/bulpett_jaylen_brown_s_potential_seems_sky_high
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2017/03/bulpett_jaylen_brown_s_potential_seems_sky_high
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Re: While Celtics show patience, Jaylen Brown races ahead
by wideclyde Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:34 pm
Brown may or may not become the NBA's rookie of the year, but he has nicely progressed throughout the season and now is a regular part of the team's rotation.
Great job by Jaylen and the coaching staff, and he has not yet even scratched the surface on how good he will eventually become.
Cs fans should hope that every year's number one draft pick comes along so quickly with the same type of results.
Great job by Jaylen and the coaching staff, and he has not yet even scratched the surface on how good he will eventually become.
Cs fans should hope that every year's number one draft pick comes along so quickly with the same type of results.
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Re: While Celtics show patience, Jaylen Brown races ahead
by dboss Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:28 pm
wideclyde wrote:Brown may or may not become the NBA's rookie of the year, but he has nicely progressed throughout the season and now is a regular part of the team's rotation.
Great job by Jaylen and the coaching staff, and he has not yet even scratched the surface on how good he will eventually become.
Cs fans should hope that every year's number one draft pick comes along so quickly with the same type of results.
ROY is not important. If he was a full time starter logging 30+ MPG, he would probably have a shot at that award. When you have an opportunity to draft a top pick you should expect them to become a full time starter in a few years. Most teams that are drafting at the top are bum teams so those players start from D one. The Celtics are in a very unique position because they are already a high end team and just happen to have the potential to draft at the top for another 2 years. That would be 3 top of the line picks added to a very solid team.
Unlike some fans I am not concerned about the development curve because our team is already a playoff team. and because of that we can develop young high end talent and not compromise our short term and long term competitive advantages.
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Re: While Celtics show patience, Jaylen Brown races ahead
by dboss Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:35 pm
worcester wrote:Here's Bulpett's take on JB, for the Boston Herald: Sky's the limit -
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2017/03/bulpett_jaylen_brown_s_potential_seems_sky_high
A lot of time it is difficult to tell if a player will develop into an allstar
A quick examination of Butler indicates that in his 3rd year he hit double digits in scoring (13.1 PPG, with 3.6 rebounds. He averaged 38.7 MPG. That year put him on the radar as a up and coming player. Year 4 was the year that he really experience a jump in his scoring
http://www.espn.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/6430/jimmy-butler
Enter Jaylen Brown who was a year younger than Butler when he entered the draft. From what I have seen Jaylen will likely match Butler's 3rd year production in his second year in the league. The three arguments that were widely discussed regarding a Butler deal was (1) We have Crowder and the rookie Jaylen and (2) Butler makes $17.5 mill this year while the Combination of Crowder and Brown come in around $11 million per year (3) Butler is a high end player that would make the Celtics a better team.
I think that when you take a close look at all the factors here, getting Butler was a move that Danny should not and did not need to make.
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Re: While Celtics show patience, Jaylen Brown races ahead
by worcester Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:19 pm
Fully agree.
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Re: While Celtics show patience, Jaylen Brown races ahead
by gyso Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:03 pm
worcester wrote:Fully agree.
Me too.
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