Cousins to Warriors
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Cousins to Warriors
per ESPN
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23980153/demarcus-cousins-agrees-join-golden-state-warriors-1-year-53-million-deal
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23980153/demarcus-cousins-agrees-join-golden-state-warriors-1-year-53-million-deal
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swish- Posts : 3147
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Re: Cousins to Warriors
NBA will need to change some rules on contracts during next cba. Just like you can’t sell a house that’s worth $500,000 to your friend for a dollar, and have him pay taxes on the one dollar. They’re going to have to penalize teams who try to amass a super team at cut rate prices.
If Cousins wants the sign for less than Aron Baynes, The league needs to charge the Warriors a luxury tax fee worthy of the 30 million per year he is worth
If Cousins wants the sign for less than Aron Baynes, The league needs to charge the Warriors a luxury tax fee worthy of the 30 million per year he is worth
mrkleen09- Posts : 3873
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Re: Cousins to Warriors
This is what I mean by not being content and continuing to upgrade if the opportunity is there.
Cousins for 5.3m?
Seriously?
GSW now has 5 star players in the starting unit.
Ridiculous!
Cousins for 5.3m?
Seriously?
GSW now has 5 star players in the starting unit.
Ridiculous!
fierce- Posts : 1251
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Re: Cousins to Warriors
One weakness GSW had was they had no outstanding big man.
Right now clearly this Warriors team has no weaknesses!
Right now clearly this Warriors team has no weaknesses!
fierce- Posts : 1251
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Re: Cousins to Warriors
Still only one ball. Boogie is where ball rotation goes to die. Not sure this works.
mrkleen09- Posts : 3873
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Re: Cousins to Warriors
mrkleen09 wrote:Still only one ball. Boogie is where ball rotation goes to die. Not sure this works.
We can't be in denial.
You're hoping Boogie destroys GSW's team chemistry?
A team with KD, Curry, Klay, and Draymond will not allow one player to destroy what they have done the last couple of years.
fierce- Posts : 1251
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Re: Cousins to Warriors
We have to open our eyes.
The defending champs now have 5 starters that are all All-Star players.
This is the strongest starting 5 in NBA history.
Sure the Celts will most likely end up in the Finals next year.
But if the Celts are just going to win one game against GSW then it's just going to be heartbreak.
The defending champs now have 5 starters that are all All-Star players.
This is the strongest starting 5 in NBA history.
Sure the Celts will most likely end up in the Finals next year.
But if the Celts are just going to win one game against GSW then it's just going to be heartbreak.
fierce- Posts : 1251
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Re: Cousins to Warriors
fierce wrote:mrkleen09 wrote:Still only one ball. Boogie is where ball rotation goes to die. Not sure this works.
We can't be in denial.
You're hoping Boogie destroys GSW's team chemistry?
A team with KD, Curry, Klay, and Draymond will not allow one player to destroy what they have done the last couple of years.
You spent 2 months talking non stop about Kwawi to Boston. And now, within minutes of GS signing Boogie, you want us all to bow down and concede the title?
Bullshit.
Last I checked, they still have to play the games. Boogie is a walking injury problem. Curry is breaking down year after year. And the Celtics young players will all be better than last.
If the Celtics sign Dwight Howard, another veteran scorer off the bench, Celtics are right there with anyone.
mrkleen09- Posts : 3873
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Re: Cousins to Warriors
Hi,
Let's see if Danny can land Howard and he behaves then we might have the answer.
AK
Let's see if Danny can land Howard and he behaves then we might have the answer.
AK
sinus007- Posts : 2638
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Re: Cousins to Warriors
So many things that can happen during the off season - makes one realize that preseason predictions are quite premature to say the least - in fact who knows for sure just how this season is going to playout - even after the wheeling-dealing is done.
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swish- Posts : 3147
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According to the Boston Sports show, it came down to GSW and Boston, so,,,,Danny has been working. According to news reports, he won't even be ready until February, so even makes it worse. A rent a center for a half of a year, Rings are too appealing to turn down. Obviously that dance he was doing with Davis in NO wasn't as good as it was made out to be. With Boogie and Rondo gone, that team will be different, but they will always have Davis and Elfrid.
Looks like LA wasn't even in the run......that seems strange for that price
Looks like LA wasn't even in the run......that seems strange for that price
RosalieTCeltics- Posts : 40559
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Re: Cousins to Warriors
Cousins isn’t even going to be able to play until January. He’s coming off a major injury. If he returns to form, GSW got better on the cheap. If not, who knows? Maybe they wind up worse. Either way, nothing much to be done aside from doing the best we can in what remains of free agency. I don’t love anyone’s chances against GSW. But I think our team could make things competitive. Crossing my fingers for Howard. A starting 5 of
Irving
Hayward
Tatum
Horford
Howard
With
Brown
Smart
Baynes
Theis
Rozier
Williams
Morris
Rounding out the 11-man rotation would be pretty scary in itself.
Irving
Hayward
Tatum
Horford
Howard
With
Brown
Smart
Baynes
Theis
Rozier
Williams
Morris
Rounding out the 11-man rotation would be pretty scary in itself.
NESportsfan12- Posts : 517
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Re: Cousins to Warriors
I just heard a reporter talking about Cousen's decision to go to the Warriors. Seems that, as usual, he flew off the wall when the Pelican's signed Julius Randle. They play the same position and got more money than they were offering Cousens. He felt disrespected, and abruptly made the decision to play for cheap money for the Warriors.
Talk about a loose cannon. What a waste of a talent. That anger that he plays with is what will put him out of this league a lot sooner than he should. This is a sad sign for a player with so much talent. He could be one of the most dominant players in the league if he played under control
Talk about a loose cannon. What a waste of a talent. That anger that he plays with is what will put him out of this league a lot sooner than he should. This is a sad sign for a player with so much talent. He could be one of the most dominant players in the league if he played under control
RosalieTCeltics- Posts : 40559
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Re: Cousins to Warriors
nothings changed IMO with the Warriors. The NBA will continue to play a wait it out game with that team. The repeater tax charges will get to the point that they WILL need to break the team up.
in fact some are saying that Durant will leave after next season.Maybe Danny can somehow get into the mix then, but he will likely join LeBron in LA.
Danny is likely best suited to continue building the young team of stars to be ready to pounce when GS collapses under the NBA tax rules and/.or age.
in fact some are saying that Durant will leave after next season.Maybe Danny can somehow get into the mix then, but he will likely join LeBron in LA.
Danny is likely best suited to continue building the young team of stars to be ready to pounce when GS collapses under the NBA tax rules and/.or age.
kdp59- Posts : 5709
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If we have to deal with them in the finals then we'll at least be in the finals
KyleCleric- Posts : 1037
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I could see Durant going back to OKC
Before GSW collapses the NBA will have negotiated a hard cap that will hinder this from happening time after time.
Cousens took so much less money just to buy himself a title (aka Ray Allen) There is nothing there to stop it right now so we have to do what we can here in the East and face them eye to eye in the finals
Before GSW collapses the NBA will have negotiated a hard cap that will hinder this from happening time after time.
Cousens took so much less money just to buy himself a title (aka Ray Allen) There is nothing there to stop it right now so we have to do what we can here in the East and face them eye to eye in the finals
RosalieTCeltics- Posts : 40559
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Re: Cousins to Warriors
I interpreted what Fierce was/is saying about obtaining another star such as Kawhi was that we should still try and and strengthen the C’s with another star player if available and if it makes sense.
What GSW did (adding Cousins) is case in point.
What GSW did (adding Cousins) is case in point.
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Ktronic1- Posts : 5866
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I addition to that is no other team was offering anymore than what he got. I assume that includes Danny. Apparently NO either was through with him or planned to offer very little so he bolted.RosalieTCeltics wrote:I just heard a reporter talking about Cousen's decision to go to the Warriors. Seems that, as usual, he flew off the wall when the Pelican's signed Julius Randle. They play the same position and got more money than they were offering Cousens. He felt disrespected, and abruptly made the decision to play for cheap money for the Warriors.
Talk about a loose cannon. What a waste of a talent. That anger that he plays with is what will put him out of this league a lot sooner than he should. This is a sad sign for a player with so much talent. He could be one of the most dominant players in the league if he played under control
NO also didn’t resign Rondo which tells me that the Pelicans are not too bright either.
Ktronic1- Posts : 5866
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This is a very interesting turn of events. Maybe Cousins was spurred to chase a ring after so many terrible seasons spent in Sacramento where there was no plan, terrible front office, not very much talent and far too many head coaches in his time spent there.
If he can recover from his Achilles injury in time to make a contribution to a championship he will look for a max contract next summer, and may have a ring to wear when he signs it.
If he can recover from his Achilles injury in time to make a contribution to a championship he will look for a max contract next summer, and may have a ring to wear when he signs it.
wideclyde- Posts : 2390
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Ktronic1 wrote:I interpreted what Fierce was/is saying about obtaining another star such as Kawhi was that we should still try and and strengthen the C’s with another star player if available and if it makes sense.
What GSW did (adding Cousins) is case in point.
Not to nitpik a point, but Fierce said specifically- on no less than 25 different occasions, that the Celtics so trade nearly anyone on the roster for Leonard. Not a star "like" Leonard, but Kawhi specifically.
Now you want to have us believe he was actually saying "any star player"? Come on man. The guy was on the Leonard or bust train for months - he OWNS IT now.
mrkleen09- Posts : 3873
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As an aside, an Achilles Rupture is a VERY SERIOUS INJURY and one that very few big men have ever come back from with any sense of normality.
This is far from a slam dunk on the Warriors part.
This is far from a slam dunk on the Warriors part.
mrkleen09- Posts : 3873
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mrkleen09 wrote:As an aside, an Achilles Rupture is a VERY SERIOUS INJURY and one that very few big men have ever come back from with any sense of normality.
This is far from a slam dunk on the Warriors part.
+1, but that is probably why they got him for 5 million
Shamrock1000- Posts : 2709
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What I heard is not necessarily what I am reading here. What I heard was that Boogie was getting very little play precisely because of the questions surrounding his injury which is very difficult to come back from, more difficult for a big, and would keep him out until New Years or the All Star break. Boogie has maintained he will be back sooner. But it makes sense that a big with a strange rep and a ruptured achilles would raise flags. What doesn't make sense is that no one was engaging him. NO didn't and signed Randle. Signed him to play Boogies position. I'm sure he felt they had moved on from the success they had when he was able to play. He has an injury. He needs to sign for short money to be able to get a max deal in the future. This was a business decision on his part. There is no cap room this season for an injured star like Cousins. Can't blame him for trying to save his career which an achilles injury puts in doubt.
mulcogiseng- Posts : 1091
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mulcogiseng wrote:What I heard is not necessarily what I am reading here. What I heard was that Boogie was getting very little play precisely because of the questions surrounding his injury which is very difficult to come back from, more difficult for a big, and would keep him out until New Years or the All Star break. Boogie has maintained he will be back sooner. But it makes sense that a big with a strange rep and a ruptured achilles would raise flags. What doesn't make sense is that no one was engaging him. NO didn't and signed Randle. Signed him to play Boogies position. I'm sure he felt they had moved on from the success they had when he was able to play. He has an injury. He needs to sign for short money to be able to get a max deal in the future. This was a business decision on his part. There is no cap room this season for an injured star like Cousins. Can't blame him for trying to save his career which an achilles injury puts in doubt.
+1
He had to take whatever was offered, maybe had other similar offers, but what better a place to chillax for most of the next season than with the GSW. He may not resign there after this season, but he can enjoy being on a winning team for a change.
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gyso- Posts : 22318
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That’s the way I interpreted it. Not to nitpick either but I AM saying any star player that makes sense!! And I still believe that, being Kawhi or whomever. Clear enough?mrkleen09 wrote:Ktronic1 wrote:I interpreted what Fierce was/is saying about obtaining another star such as Kawhi was that we should still try and and strengthen the C’s with another star player if available and if it makes sense.
What GSW did (adding Cousins) is case in point.
Not to nitpik a point, but Fierce said specifically- on no less than 25 different occasions, that the Celtics so trade nearly anyone on the roster for Leonard. Not a star "like" Leonard, but Kawhi specifically.
Now you want to have us believe he was actually saying "any star player"? Come on man. The guy was on the Leonard or bust train for months - he OWNS IT now.
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