Cousins is 'Untradeable'

"Not Available" might be a better way to put it...


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"DeMarcus is untradeable & a guy who we want to build around" Divac on DeMarcus Cousins
1:33 PM - 19 May 2015



Justin Termine @TermineRadio
Just talked to Vlade Divac on @SiriusXMNBA He said George Karl "might have overstepped his bounds" saying no player is untradeable #Kings
1:44 PM - 19 May 2015



bob



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Trade or no trade ..........The Celtics do not want this guy. He only spells trouble if things are not going his way.

I would take my shot at Robert Upshaw at a fraction of the price and if he proves to be a bust, cut him and absorb minimal damage financially.

112288

Of course, Divac says that his best player is untradeable. What else could he say at this time of the year?

If he really wants to keep Cousins, he says that he will not trade him. If he wants to trade the guy he still says that he is not going to trade him.

To admit that he does want to trade his best player, Divac will cost himself a lot of value if and when he might decide to trade Cousins.

Everyone in the NBA is tradeable unless he has a no trade provision in his contract. Just a matter of how much you may want to give up to get your guy.

112288, Upshaw will not be as good at Cousins to start off with, but may be as good in time.

The latest I read was that the Celtics are looking to trade up for Cauley-Stein and the Knicks' #4 pick is obtainable.  Also that Danny is working on a package (which would include renouncing his rights to free agents other than my boy Crowder) to attract Aldridge and Matthews from Portland.  IF that series of events ever happened (and who knows what the odds might be—other than low?), I would expect Bradley and/or Sully and/or Kelly might be trade bait (perhaps with picks) for other pieces.  There are just so many permutations and combinations that virtually all of this stuff consists of wild guesses.

Sam

Wide Cycle,

It will take just one time of Cousins stopping and trying to argue a call when the rest of the Celtics are back on defense on the other end of the floor to convince everyone that this is not what you want long term.

Give me Upshaw and a few seasons...thank you.

112288

Yup. Upshaw makes more and more sense every time the alternatives get discussed.

Upshaw certainly has some upside.

Meanwhile, to all those Celtics fans who wanted us to tank - how'd that work out for the Knicks?

worcester wrote:Upshaw certainly has some upside.

Meanwhile, to all those Celtics fans who wanted us to tank - how'd that work out for the Knicks?

The Knicks did what they had to do.
They had a terrible roster and were not going to the playoffs, so they traded away JR Smith and Shumpert.
I am sure on draft day they will be pleased that they have the 4th pick and not the 9th or 15th.

Talking about Upshaw and Cousins in the same breath is kind of silly.

I can't imagine the Knicks would have finished 9th or 15th even with JR or Shumpert on the team.

worcester wrote:I can't imagine the Knicks would have finished 9th or 15th even with JR or Shumpert on the team.

No, they wouldn't have finished much better.
My point was, they didn't intentionally tank.
They were just terrible.

TJ, I also don't think Phil tanked on purpose, but some Celtics fans think tanking's acceptable and desirable, and the experience of the Knicks  and many other teams shows that often doesn't work out so well.

Meanwhile, Kobe's last year or two on the Lakers could be a lot of fun for him with Randle, Okafor, and a FA on board.

It worked out fine for the Knick's. I just do not know what their problem is.

So why are the Knick's down on Cauely Stein, they are in a position to draft him? They can also draft a great PG in Russell.

Inquiring minds want to know!!!!!!

112288

112288

It's simple, 112288.  Phil read a book on how to build a winner when a winner is not handed to you on a silver platter, and the book was written in sanskrit.

Sam

112288 wrote:It worked out fine for the Knick's.  I just do not know what their problem is.

So why are the Knick's down on Cauely Stein, they are in a position to draft him?  They can also draft a great PG in Russell.

Inquiring minds want to know!!!!!!

112288

112288

Most likely Russell will be picked by Philly. 
Cauley-Stein probably would not be a good center to run the triangle thru. 
Yes, he can be a game changer defensively. 
The problem with the Knicks drafting a point guard is that teams don't really need a great point guard to run the triangle offense.

worcester wrote:TJ, I also don't think Phil tanked on purpose, but some Celtics fans think tanking's acceptable and desirable, and the experience of the Knicks  and many other teams shows that often doesn't work out so well.

Meanwhile, Kobe's last year or two on the Lakers could be a lot of fun for him with Randle, Okafor, and a FA on board.

Don't forget about Swaggy P. (Nick Young)

TJ,

See you in the Finals.

Nothing presumptuous about that, right?

(But wouldn't it be great?)

Sam

Knicks need upgrades at 4 starting spots. At 4 they may add a Guard and with their cap spcae, land a high profile player ir rwo. But if those players do not subscribe to The ancient triangle offense those players may not help much.

Dboss

TJ

That is of coarse the Phil's Bermuda Triangle becomes more of a myth then reality!

Yes, Philly does need a PG but if they select someone else they need to draft one.

112288

sam wrote:TJ,

See you in the Finals.

Nothing presumptuous about that, right?

(But wouldn't it be great?)

Sam

Sam,

I thought you don't make predictions. 
Yes, I would take that deal in a heartbeat. 

TJ

More of a hope than a prediction, unfortunately.  But, after living through a period when  it was Celtics-Lakers in the Finals at least every two years, I really miss that matchup. Of course, it wouldn't really be the same unless Jack gets his season's tickets back and practices his mooning maneuver.

Sam

any trade involving Cousins would have Ty Lawson rejoining Karl at Sacramento, IMO.

Denver wants to rebuild now and is willing to move Lawson ( a Karl favorite).

could Danny get involved in a three team deal?

pieces from the Celtics could be Bradley, Zeller, Sullinger #16 pick this year and one or more future first round picks.


would the Kings take say Lawson, Faried and Zeller back for Cousins?

would Denver be ready to rebuild with Bradley, Collison, Sullinger, #16 and a 2016 first from us?

would we be a better team with Cousins and McLemore instead of Bradley, Zeller , Sullinger,#16 pick and one less first?

just some random thoughts to start my day here.