Re: Playoff Observations

by **dboss** Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:28 am

In the Hawks win over Sixers in game 1 on the road the Sixers got back in the game by trapping Trae Young and it did work a few times, however the Hawks really move the ball on offense and they can really shoot the 3 ball well. (20-47) They will try to slow Trae down in game 2. Same strategy that the Knicks tried and failed to do. The team that shoots the 3 ball the best will likely win this series. The other factor that could impact this series is the health of Embid. He looked great on Sunday. I can imagine the knee swelling up and him missing a game or 2. I am picking the Hawks to upset the Sixers in this series.

Leonard's performance against the Mavs was spectacular.

by **dbrown4** Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:43 am

Just to make it fun, dboss, I'll take the other side. Pretty sure the Hawks just let cat out of the bag and woke up the sleeping giant. This is textbook Doc as you will recall. It took the 2008 team 26 out of a possible 28 playoff games to claim that title. We pretty much stuck to home court winning as I recall. I'm going to bet nothing much has changed. Doc is always amazed when these things happen. He's a character for sure. Doc won't lose this series.

db

by **dboss** Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:02 pm

dbrown4 wrote:Just to make it fun, dboss, I'll take the other side. Pretty sure the Hawks just let cat out of the bag and woke up the sleeping giant. This is textbook Doc as you will recall. It took the 2008 team 26 out of a possible 28 playoff games to claim that title. We pretty much stuck to home court winning as I recall. I'm going to bet nothing much has changed. Doc is always amazed when these things happen. He's a character for sure. Doc won't lose this series.

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Okay but remember this quote. "If you want to act real silly, be a fool and bet on philly"

I'm taking the Hawks because I think Embid will not finish the series. One more tweak of the knee and he is done. Then enter clown show Dwight Howard.

by **dbrown4** Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:52 pm

Hey dboss, if Philly does go down, will Doc become available?! We are Doc's only championship. Nothing saying he can't do it again here!

db

by **RosalieTCeltics** Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:03 pm

This series is a telling point for the Bucks. They went out, got a good supporting cast around Giannis and Middleton (who I think is so underrated it is unreal), and now, it is up to them to win.
Holiday must show up big time this game. Losing their guy off the bench who is a killer at times is not a help, but should not be cause for them losing.

What happens after this year if they blow it again????? Interesting, you think it is just the Celtics who may have disappointed fans? The Bucks fans will go nuts

by **dbrown4** Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:57 pm

+1 Rosalie. Armageddon is coming to Bucks if they fold up this round. My money is on the Bucks. BKN won't figure out this is the only year they will have a shot at the title until it's too late. The injuries are already piling up. Next year's injury run for BKN will make our year look like a walk in the park.

db

P.S. Isn't it time for Cryrie's shoulder to start acting up?!!

by **RosalieTCeltics** Mon Jun 07, 2021 2:19 pm

Let's see what happens if they do start to lose, that is when you will see him go into hiding agaiin. Cannot take the pressure. With Harden out, he has the weight of the world on his shoulders. Durant is Durant, he will do his thing, crybaby has to run the offense more. Let's see what happens. I hope the Bucs turn it on, one good win and Brooklyn won't feel as cocky

by **dboss** Mon Jun 07, 2021 2:29 pm

dbrown4 wrote:Hey dboss, if Philly does go down, will Doc become available?! We are Doc's only championship. Nothing saying he can't do it again here!

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If doc had been in Philly for several years and was a repeat offender in losing playoff series like he did in LA, then I could see them moving on. But I do not recall seeing a high profile coach like doc getting canned after just one season. Philly really had a tremendous season and will be one tough out for whomever they play.

I picked the Hawks for sentimental reasons (always despised the Sixers) and because they are my Cinderella team. This year right into the playoffs has been characterized by injuries to key players. That is the biggest unknown factor.

I definitely would not want Doc back because HE left us.

by **bobheckler** Mon Jun 07, 2021 2:35 pm

Doc's in his first year. I cannot see him getting fired after taking the team that got swept by the Celtics in the first round to being the team that is in the EC Finals.

If Daryl Morey can hang in there with Mike "No D" Antoni for 4 years he almost certainly will give Doc more rope than one year.

Bob

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by **dboss** Mon Jun 07, 2021 2:46 pm

Rosalie

So many teams underestimate the value of great chemistry. The Bucks did not look as good without Donte DiVincenzo. The Celtics took multiple chemistry related hits with all of their injury/covid problems. Last year the Heat had great chemistry and the missing piece this year I believe was Jae Crowder.

by **RosalieTCeltics** Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:05 pm

Hey, Crowder landed on his feet running, Phoenix is a scary team. I think the winner of the NBA title may be a shocker. I am not much in predicting, but, as you well know, the Nets are not on my list of teams to root for. I cannot even watch them. Give the Hawks credit, they could be a scary team also. Wouldn't Silver die if it was a Phonix/Atlanta final????????

by **Ktron** Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:24 pm

dboss wrote:
dbrown4 wrote:Just to make it fun, dboss, I'll take the other side. Pretty sure the Hawks just let cat out of the bag and woke up the sleeping giant. This is textbook Doc as you will recall. It took the 2008 team 26 out of a possible 28 playoff games to claim that title. We pretty much stuck to home court winning as I recall. I'm going to bet nothing much has changed. Doc is always amazed when these things happen. He's a character for sure. Doc won't lose this series.

db

db

Okay but remember this quote. "If you want to act real silly, be a fool and bet on philly"

I'm taking the Hawks because I think Embid will not finish the series. One more tweak of the knee and he is done. Then enter clown show Dwight Howard.

dboss, you’ve been in ATL long enough to know that predictions like the one you’re making are like spitting in the wind. Atlanta ain’t beating Philly! Your city is jinxed. They were even going to pass legislation to change interstate 285 to 283 after that Super Bowl loss to the Pats. Hawks ain’t beating the 6ers bud.

by **bobc33** Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:14 pm

RosalieTCeltics wrote:Hey, Crowder landed on his feet running, Phoenix is a scary team. I think the winner of the NBA title may be a shocker. I am not much in predicting, but, as you well know, the Nets are not on my list of teams to root for. I cannot even watch them. Give the Hawks credit, they could be a scary team also. Wouldn't Silver die if it was a Phonix/Atlanta final????????

I tried to watch the Nets game 1 against the Bucks, I really tried, but watching Diarrhea Breath and his weirdo sidekick proved too unpleasant and I turned it off. I’ll watch all the other series, and it is on me for letting my distaste for diarrhea influence my viewing habits, but it is what it is.

Suns vs Hawks in the finals? That would be all time awesome!!

by **Ktron** Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:17 pm

Anyone that thinks Kris Middleton is all that and doesn’t get a lot of credit, this is why- He’s a human ice bath who DISAPPEARS IN THE PLAYOFFS!!!

by **Ktron** Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:31 pm

by **cowens/oldschool** Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:33 pm

Middleton is terrible, he looks like a G leaguer. How did his game change so much for the worse this fast? He kills us, he’s taking bad shoots, this team looks nothing like the team that executed against Miami.

by **cowens/oldschool** Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:45 pm

If I’m a Bucks fan I can’t believe how bad this offense is, too many guys just standing around, no cutting or movement. Where is the offense that took apart the Heat?

by **bobheckler** Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:53 pm

65-41 Nets at the half.

Neither Giannis nor Middleton have shown up yet.

Durant with 21. NO HARDEN.

Bob

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by **Ktron** Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:27 pm

bobheckler wrote:65-41 Nets at the half.

Neither Giannis nor Middleton have shown up yet.

Durant with 21. NO HARDEN.

Bob

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We gave them a better run than this. WT….. What a Face

by **bobheckler** Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:59 pm

Ktron wrote:
bobheckler wrote:65-41 Nets at the half.

Neither Giannis nor Middleton have shown up yet.

Durant with 21. NO HARDEN.

Bob

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We gave them a better run than this. WT…..

ktron,

True dat. We were down 3 starters, they had Harden and we still gave them a better run that this.

Game 1:
Celtics vs Nets. 104-93. Nets by 11.
Bucks vs Nets. 115-107. Nets by 8.

Game 2:
Celtics vs Nets. 130-108. Nets by 22.
Bucks vs Nets. Nets by 39. (It was as high as 49, then it was cut to 42 with 3 minutes left)

Total points differential through two games:
Boston vs Nets. Nets +33
Bucks vs Nets. Nets +47

It's true that we only won one game, it's true we were down 0-2 before we won our game just like they are, but we were extremely short-handed. The truth is we probably had no right to win even one game, not against that talent and with us down so many key pieces, but we did. Let's see if the Bucks rally in Wisconsin, it isn't over yet, but through two we're looking better than the healthy Bucks.

Makes you wonder if you'd like to hire Mike Budenholzer if/when he gets fired, doesn't it?

Bob

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by **worcester** Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:02 pm

This Bud's not for me.

by **RosalieTCeltics** Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:39 pm

That is disgusting. That coach is gone if he loses like this. Before you know it Giannis will be asking for a trade.

by **dbrown4** Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:29 am

Well, THAT was disturbing!!! Bucks/Nets series heading back to MIL has all the makings and feelings of either 3-1 or end of the road 3-0. Only thing Bucks can hope for is that G2 was the Memorial Day Massacre by BKN. Subsequently, that did not work out very well for us as we spent ourselves on that game and in the resulting series vs. Lakers.

I've turned the truck on and started printing a few fire sale signs. Have not put it in reverse yet. Bucks are going to have to pull out a modern day Kurt Rambis/Kevin McHale clothesline and not get ejected to get back in this. Pathetic. They looked like a slightly better version of us still jacking up 3's til the cows come home. No organization on offense, obviously no defense.

Giannis may try to keep an even keel and that's fine because you can't have your team leader flying off the handle when all the world is crumbling around you, but I can tell you a couple of people whose seats have heated up considerably. Coach Bud and GM Jon Horst. If it goes down 0-3, that'll just about do it for those two. Even a gentleman's sweep of 3-1 going back to BKN.

You can look at the Clippers at least through Round 1. They got one monkey off their backs. There are still a few more demons to exorcise but they took a small step toward that last round. MIL's load and situation is more more dangerous and precarious. This start to the 2nd round hasn't helped any of those fears from the Bucks past in the Giannis era. But as we always say, this is why you go ahead and play the games. Good luck, Bucks! Try not to jack this up, please!!

db

by **RosalieTCeltics** Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:06 am

Well, I take back everything I said about the Bucs. That was one disgusting display of basketball by them. If they lose in 4 straight, that coach is gone. I do not care how good he was a year ago.
What the heck are they thinking, all they need to do is show up????? MVP or no MVP, Giannis needs to lead this team better. All the money they spent on the bench? Nothing.

This makes me sick to my stomach, YES, YOU CAN BUY A CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHY, ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS SPEND $$$$$$$$$$$$

by **bobheckler** Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:15 am

RosalieTCeltics wrote:Well, I take back everything I said about the Bucs. That was one disgusting display of basketball by them. If they lose in 4 straight, that coach is gone. I do not care how good he was a year ago.
What the heck are they thinking, all they need to do is show up????? MVP or no MVP, Giannis needs to lead this team better. All the money they spent on the bench? Nothing.

This makes me sick to my stomach, YES, YOU CAN BUY A CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHY, ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS SPEND $$$$$$$$$$$$

Rosalie,

To be fair, the Nets

1. Signed Kyrie because he wanted to play in his hometown. That's one max contract.
2. Signed Durant because he wanted to play with Kyrie. That's two max contracts. We have two also.
3. Traded away assets for Harden. In order to get Harden the value of the salary they sent out had to be within 25% of the salary they took on, so it wasn't just a bottomless pocketbook. So, while Harden might be a max contract they had to give up a max contract's worth of players too.

None of us wanted Harden because he's too (fill in the blank). Well, wouldn't you like him now? He's not played in the Bucks series but he croaked us. Hindsight is 20/20.

Bob

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