Trade suggests Celts Standing pat?

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33096985/san-antonio-spurs-bryn-forbes-traded-denver-nuggets-3-team-deal

This trade of Hernangomez for Bol Bol and PJ Dozier brings the Celts closer to avoiding luxury tax.  If that is the goal, we are likely going to see salary neutral/positive transactions.  My guess is that the Celts will stand pat at the trade deadline.  Lets see.

Not a move that has any immediate effect.

Neither incoming player may ever see the court in a Celtic uniform. The outgoing player had no real value to the team.

The team made a little negotiating room for the future, but nothing big.

Salary dump just like Theis, Javonte Green, etc.

The owners can save 'A Few Dollars More'

Hermangomez had no game, good move…..

Should we mark this one down as a corrected mistake by GM Brad?

It appears the tax bill will still be around $4.1 million.

dboss wrote:Should we mark this one down as a corrected mistake by GM Brad?

No, not really. The Hernangómez acquisition combined two contracts into one and opened up a roster spot at the same time. It was always the plan to trade him away when it seemed advantageous. He served his function, no more no less.

Hernangómez, 26, was acquired by the Celtics in a September 2021 trade with the Memphis Grizzlies in exchange for guards Kris Dunn and Carsen Edwards, as well as the right to swap second-round draft picks in 2026.

https://www.wcvb.com/article/celtics-involved-in-3-team-deal-january-18-2022/38809921#

He may never suit up for the Celtics but Bol in an interesting player. At 7-2 with a 747 wingspan, he can hit 3s, handle the ball, and pass. His downside is the typical twig complaint (not a great defender and not a great rebounder) with the typical big man fragile feet. But if he can add muscle he is the big that everyone says they want in the league these days. I always liked his dad but he was a novelty player most of the time. He also happened to be an outstanding human being. It would be nice to see his son make it.

I think that the next player the Celts should look to move is Al Horford. Will it be in this season or off season is uncertain.

While we are at recycling ex-Celtics, how about Horford plus assets for Hayward? Next season, the Hornets will have some salary decisions to make as Miles Bridges is likely getting a max extension. The Celts are really missing a player like Hayward.

dboss wrote:Salary dump just like Theis, Javonte Green, etc.

The owners can save 'A Few Dollars More'

Hopefully this is all part of a bigger plan down the road but not to far down.

Side note: The fact that Javonte Green is a starter now on a serious contender (Bulls) means we may have whiffed again.

James Brown’s J.B’s had a song out once call “Same Beat” js

dboss wrote:It appears the tax bill will still be around $4.1 million.  

Bryn Forbes is a 40% 3 pt shooter. Wonder why we didn’t get him as part of the swap.

Ktron wrote:

dboss wrote:It appears the tax bill will still be around $4.1 million.  

Bryn Forbes is a 40% 3 pt shooter. Wonder why we didn’t get him as part of the swap.

It appears that Denver wanting Forbes is what made the deal happen. Our goal was primarily financial.

gyso wrote:

dboss wrote:Should we mark this one down as a corrected mistake by GM Brad?

No, not really.  The Hernangómez acquisition combined two contracts into one and opened up a roster spot at the same time.  It was always the plan to trade him away when it seemed advantageous.  He served his function, no more no less.

Hernangómez, 26, was acquired by the Celtics in a September 2021 trade with the Memphis Grizzlies in exchange for guards Kris Dunn and Carsen Edwards, as well as the right to swap second-round draft picks in 2026.

https://www.wcvb.com/article/celtics-involved-in-3-team-deal-january-18-2022/38809921#

It sounds a bit convoluted to me.  Why get Dunn in the first place.

We get Kris Dunn and it was widely reported that he would be moved in another deal so we expected him to be traded..  That deal turned into Dunn and Edwards for Hernangomez.  Hernangomez by all accounts was acquired because we were looking for a stretch 4 to add depth to our frontcourt.  We sent out 2 players for one. Hernangomez was a bad fit.   Now we turn around and trade him for 2 players (both injured)  We save some money off the tax bill but another move needs to be made to get under the Tax.  

So far not much has happened to improve this team this year.  The Celtics have 3 sizeable TPE's still available.  It is going to take the offseason to reconstruct this roster.

I expect that Dennis will be moved soon to get us under the tax.

Ktron wrote:

dboss wrote:Salary dump just like Theis, Javonte Green, etc.

The owners can save 'A Few Dollars More'

Hopefully this is all part of a bigger plan down the road but not to far down.

Side note: The fact that Javonte Green is a starter now on a serious contender (Bulls) means we may have whiffed again.

James Brown’s J.B’s had a song out once call “Same Beat” js

ktron

This team is very likely to be a tax paying team. However if they can avoid the tax this year it also means the repeater tax will not kick in as soon.

Yes there are things that will happen down the road but this move was clearly a salary dump. The Celtics could have just cut Edwards and forget about trading for Dunn and Hernangomez. It's a roundabout down here but up in Boston it's called a rotary

I have that JB's CD...a real collectors item.

dboss wrote:

Ktron wrote:

dboss wrote:Salary dump just like Theis, Javonte Green, etc.

The owners can save 'A Few Dollars More'

Hopefully this is all part of a bigger plan down the road but not to far down.

Side note: The fact that Javonte Green is a starter now on a serious contender (Bulls) means we may have whiffed again.

James Brown’s J.B’s had a song out once call “Same Beat” js

ktron

This team is very likely to be a tax paying team.  However if they can avoid the tax this year it also means the repeater tax will not kick in as soon.

Yes there are things that will happen down the road but this move was clearly a salary dump.  The Celtics could have just cut Edwards and forget about trading for Dunn and Hernangomez.  It's a roundabout down here but up in Boston it's called a rotary

I have that JB's CD...a real collectors item.

Got it. BTW, is “Escaspism” on that same CD.

PJ will be an UFA coming off of $1.9 million deal

Bol Bol can be retained with a QO of $2.689 million. I doubt there is much of a bidding war out there for him.

Ime stated that he wants to get a look at him. Bol is expected to be out 8-12 weeks so I am not sure what type of look Ime is expecting to get. Our season ends on April 10th.

Freedom will be gone over the summer and knowing that, makes me think we should be getting Bruno some BU minutes at center right now. I say play him 10 straight games to see what he does.

The Celtics are a .500 team over last season and 46 games this season.

It’s looking likely nothing happens until the off season.

A couple of significant skill players are needed at guard and forward. It doesn’t look like those are going to be found in this season’s fire sales.

NYCelt wrote:It’s looking likely nothing happens until the off season.

A couple of significant skill players are needed at guard and forward. It doesn’t look like those are going to be found in this season’s fire sales.

I agree pretty much with what you are saying here.

We could probably add one of those needed pieces right now but it would not necessarily be the only missing piece. And it really seems obvious that the owners are hell bent on staying below the tax line this year.

Next year is a time to find players with one or more of our TPE's and pair down the roster by moving a few players and picks if needed.

But

The danger of waiting until the off season is that other teams can step into the mix and get a guy we really wanted. There are for example a couple of players on the Kings that should be of interest. It just takes us back into this endless loop where our luxury tax concerns dominates the decision making process. So nothing probably gets done now.

So Bradley Beal is not signing an extension. That was expected. Now how will this affect the trade discussions?

The Wizards might as well embrace a rebuild.

Just dont read some of the stupidest trades of this season:

Anthony Davis, and two scrubs, for Jaylen, Marcus and Aaron.

How does bleacher reports think this crap up. Sure we will be glad to rebuild the Lakers and get stuck with the walking injury prone Davis. Give me a break. And to think, they make money for these posts