NBA Playoffs - 2022

Here's how the play-in plays out:



It looks like we don't play until next Sunday, the ESPN schedule is sketchy that far out.

Here's the brackets:

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https://www.nba.com/playoffs/2022

Bigger:

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Here's a link to the playoff schedule:

https://www.nba.com/news/2022-nba-playoffs-schedule

Find the typo:

Hi,
I guess we're going to face BKN next week. Hopefully, everyone is healthy and RWIII is getting back at the end of the month.

AK

sinus007 wrote:Hi,
I guess we're going to face BKN next week. Hopefully, everyone is healthy and RWIII is getting back at the end of the month.

AK

I'm rooting for Cleveland, but if we are truly contenders, it shouldn't matter.

On the other hand, sending the Nets into summer vacation has a certain appeal.

Hi,
How is the 2nd round formed? Is its bracket predetermined or is it highest seed plays the lowest seed?
Thanks.

AK

sinus007,

1/8 & 4/5 are in the same group.

2/7 & 3/6 are in the same group.

Second round, if top seed win out, then it would be 1 vs. 4 & 2 vs. 3.

ECF/WCF would be if top seeds win out, 1 vs. 2.

The Finals are Best of the West plays Best of the East. Hopefully #1 East vs. #1 West.

You raise an interesting discussion point in that it should just be one big league playoff with #1-#16, dropping the East/West distinctions. Haven't heard the league talking about it lately because tradition has been set for so long and all the Lakers/Celtics rivalries in the Finals, but if Adam Silver wants to take another swing at making the playoffs more interesting, that would be the way to go. It would get rid of the stupid play-in, although I have to admit I am slightly interested this year given our path, but it is still rewarding bad play and is a by-product of the "everyone gets a trophy" generation's thinking. Keep it top 8 in both conferences. I could even be talked into Top 4 but the revenue lost will never take us there.

db

It is determined by seeding and where the play-in games fill in the 7 and 8 seed locations.  It is also still separated by East and West.

The brackets (above) didn't show the entire path to the finals, but this one does:



BTW, the Play-In doesn't count as a "Round", at least as a number.  The Play-In doesn't even count as part of the playoffs.  At least, it didn't last year.  It was in limbo, neither part of the regular season nor part of the playoffs.  Weird.

The First Round will begin when we play next Sunday.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33713808/ben-simmons-pain-free-progress-fuels-hope-return-brooklyn-nets-advance-first-round-sources-say



Ben Simmons' pain-free progress fuels hope he could return if Brooklyn Nets advance to Eastern Conference Round 1, sources say
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Adrian Wojnarowski
Senior NBA Insider


The pain-free progress of Brooklyn Nets star Ben Simmons' back is fueling hope that the three-time All-Star could debut sometime in the first round of the Eastern Conference playoffs, even if it's limited to a 10-15 minutes-per-game role, sources told ESPN on Sunday.

Simmons has been ruled out of the NBA's play-in tournament, and sources believe that Games 1 and 2 of an Eastern Conference playoff series would be too soon to expect Simmons to be ready to make his debut.

Simmons has been moving more freely on the court and advanced to shooting and 1-on-0 workouts after stops and starts since his trade to the Nets from the Philadelphia 76ers two months ago.

Simmons had an epidural shot in mid-March to subdue pain and irritation with a herniated disc in his lower back. He has found more traction in the past week, and, barring setbacks, there's an increasing confidence that he could become available to the Nets sometime in a first-round series, assuming the Nets advance out of the play-in tournament.


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dbrown4 wrote:sinus007,

1/8 & 4/5 are in the same group.

2/7 & 3/6 are in the same group.  

Second round, if top seed win out, then it would be 1 vs. 4 & 2 vs. 3.

ECF/WCF would be if top seeds win out, 1 vs. 2.  

The Finals are Best of the West plays Best of the East.  Hopefully #1 East vs. #1 West.  

You raise an interesting discussion point in that it should just be one big league playoff with #1-#16, dropping the East/West distinctions.  Haven't heard the league talking about it lately because tradition has been set for so long and all the Lakers/Celtics rivalries in the Finals, but if Adam Silver wants to take another swing at making the playoffs more interesting, that would be the way to go.  It would get rid of the stupid play-in, although I have to admit I am slightly interested this year given our path, but it is still rewarding bad play and is a by-product of the "everyone gets a trophy" generation's thinking.  Keep it top 8 in both conferences.  I could even be talked into Top 4 but the revenue lost will never take us there.      

db

I do not want to eliminate East - West. Too much tradition. Plus, a team's regular season record is the result from mostly playing with other teams in its conference. Etc.

Personally, I like the Play-In. It keeps more teams engaged longer and it helps with the financial health of the league.

Hi,
I guess Celtics won't be so lucky to play against Ben Simmons right from the start.
Also, "Ben Simmons" and "shooting" in the same sentence? I don't know...

AK

The Thybulle confession is very interesting.  He was backdoored into it because there was nowhere else to hide going into Canada.  If any of our guys were unvaccinated and we had to play TOR in the first round, they would have had to confess also.  

What's misunderstood here in this country is HIPAA laws on privacy do not apply to flu shots and whether you tell people or don't about your status.  Now, your visit to your personal doctor or specialist and all those records and discussions...that is covered under HIPAA.

This case is the perfect scenario of all this because he was essentially out of "excuses".  Just like an attorney trying to prove you killed someone in court, he/she has a list of all the possible reason why you didn't do it and they just go down the list until all excuses are exhausted.  

All the media has to do in this situation is say, "So, you're not playing in TOR because you are unvaccinated, correct?  Because there is no other reason you're not playing in TOR."  No matter how he answers (or pleads the 5th), since all the other options are no longer valid (injury, etc.) and injury list says, "Not eligible".  You killed him.  Just admit it now and we're all good because all the evidence now points to the only conclusion you can have from this.  So he came out.  And his confession has nothing to do with privacy if you hear it through.  I grew up in a family that heals holistically.  That's nothing private about that.  Gazillions of families practice that way.  It's not a secret.    

People are just confused about the whole privacy issue and how it relates to health care in this country.  They're stretching it to cover where it doesn't cover. Much ado about nothing.  

Now, I'm not a doctor but I play one on TV.  Where's worcester when you need him!!  

db

db

When HIPPA was passed into law I was still working for an Insurance Company. I wrote a compliance manual that included a section on HIPPA rules.

With respect to a flu shot it is in fact part of a person's medical records and as such it would be covered under HIPPA. A person can agree or disagree to have their medical records sent to a 3rd party. The term medical records covers a wide variety of things.

sinus007 wrote:Hi,
I guess Celtics won't be so lucky to play against Ben Simmons right from the start.
Also, "Ben Simmons" and "shooting" in the same sentence? I don't know...

AK

Simmons has not played in almost a year.  Nevertheless if he is ready and able to play he  could be a big boost to the Nets defensive schemes.  If I was Steve Nash, I would put him on Tatum and that would free Durant up.  Then you could bring a help defender to also limit Jaylen.  The Nets do not need much scoring from Simmons.

The Celtics will have their hands full defending the Nets and they will also need to 'keep the ball moving' on offense.  

This of course assumes that the Cavs do not shock the world on Tuesday.

Dboss,
Your post's first sentence explains one of the reasons, IMO, why it would be a gift for us if he plays. It applies for both offense and defense. Sure, he can help to slow down JT and JB. But I'm not sure that 4.25 of good offense is enough to overcome 5.00 of the best defense.
Also, don't forget the mental factor. KI and KD figured out how to play together. Now you introduce BS into this shaky alliance - high probability it could become a house of cards.

AK

Frankly I will welcome BS seeing some playing time against the Celts. After having not played at all, I don't believe that he will have any instincts ready to fire.

Realistically, BS if just a smoke screen. He is not coming back in the playoffs because the Nets are likely not making out of the first round.

dboss wrote:db

When HIPPA was passed into law I was still working for an Insurance Company.  I wrote a compliance manual that included a section on HIPPA rules.

With respect to a flu shot it is in fact part of a person's medical records and as such it would be covered under HIPPA.  A person can agree or disagree to have their medical records sent to a 3rd party.  The term medical records covers a wide variety of things.

Doesn't HIPPA rules dictate that the doctor's office and insurance companies have to protect your personal information and that's it?  I don't believe HIPPA has anything to do with a person answering a question regarding their own health data.  People do not have "HIPPA rights" regarding their own disclosure.

That is where the error or misconception regarding HIPPA "rights" come from.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Insurance_Portability_and_Accountability_Act

It generally prohibits healthcare providers and healthcare businesses, called covered entities, from disclosing protected information to anyone other than a patient and the patient's authorized representatives without their consent. With limited exceptions, it does not restrict patients from receiving information about themselves.[5] It does not prohibit patients from voluntarily sharing their health information however they choose, nor – if they disclose medical information to family members, friends, or other individuals not a part of a covered entity – legally require them to maintain confidentiality.

Good deal, dboss. It looks like Thybulle didn't know his own rights. All he had to say is that's information I can only give to my employer if asked. And since you people ain't my employer, I don't owe you jack. He voluntarily disclosed it. But he's in essence been quietly pleading the 5th all season and now that the one team that's playing TOR in the first round and they have these conditions, it's obvious he's not vaccinated. Not completely obvious but whether he confesses or not, it is highly likely he's not. BOS would have been in the same boat if all of our guys were not vaccinated.

HIPAA only deals with HIPAA covered entities such as health care providers, health care plans and health care clearinghouses. HIPAA does not apply to most employers. Employers can ask you for your vaccination status and may even hang your employment on it as well.

Anyway, we ain't playing TOR. We still don't know who we will be playing. I like my theory! We'll see tomorrow!

db

dboss wrote:db

When HIPPA was passed into law I was still working for an Insurance Company.  I wrote a compliance manual that included a section on HIPPA rules.

With respect to a flu shot it is in fact part of a person's medical records and as such it would be covered under HIPPA.  A person can agree or disagree to have their medical records sent to a 3rd party.  The term medical records covers a wide variety of things.

Dboss, as we discussed yesterday regarding Jaylen Brown and whether he was vaccinated or not. If Jaylen chooses to answer the question on whether he is vaccinated or not he can and it has nothing to do with Hippa. we all have the right to discuss our own health with anyone, its the medical field etc that is attached to Hippa.

dbrown4 wrote:Good deal, dboss.  It looks like Thybulle didn't know his own rights.  All he had to say is that's information I can only give to my employer if asked.  And since you people ain't my employer, I don't owe you jack.  He voluntarily disclosed it.  But he's in essence been quietly pleading the 5th all season and now that the one team that's playing TOR in the first round and they have these conditions, it's obvious he's not vaccinated.  Not completely obvious but whether he confesses or not, it is highly likely he's not.  BOS would have been in the same boat if all of our guys were not vaccinated.      

HIPAA only deals with HIPAA covered entities such as health care providers, health care plans and health care clearinghouses.  HIPAA does not apply to most employers.  Employers can ask you for your vaccination status and may even hang your employment on it as well.

Anyway, we ain't playing TOR.  We still don't know who we will be playing.  I like my theory!  We'll see tomorrow!

db  

Right and if a city has a mandate and you have to prove you are vaccinated to come in then you either prove it or you don't get in.

Gyso doing his usual spectacular job creating this playoff thread. Truly the fuel in the tank of the machine. Or is that now the voltage in the battery? Knowing the guy, he’s pretty versatile, probably a hybrid.

I’m rooting for the Nets. Would love to be the team to put them away in the playoffs.

Interesting to learn dboss was an insurance co compliance guy. Guess we never discussed that. Any securities industry compliance experience?

dbrown4 wrote:The Thybulle confession is very interesting.  He was backdoored into it because there was nowhere else to hide going into Canada.  If any of our guys were unvaccinated and we had to play TOR in the first round, they would have had to confess also.  

What's misunderstood here in this country is HIPAA laws on privacy do not apply to flu shots and whether you tell people or don't about your status.  Now, your visit to your personal doctor or specialist and all those records and discussions...that is covered under HIPAA.

This case is the perfect scenario of all this because he was essentially out of "excuses".  Just like an attorney trying to prove you killed someone in court, he/she has a list of all the possible reason why you didn't do it and they just go down the list until all excuses are exhausted.  

All the media has to do in this situation is say, "So, you're not playing in TOR because you are unvaccinated, correct?  Because there is no other reason you're not playing in TOR."  No matter how he answers (or pleads the 5th), since all the other options are no longer valid (injury, etc.) and injury list says, "Not eligible".  You killed him.  Just admit it now and we're all good because all the evidence now points to the only conclusion you can have from this.  So he came out.  And his confession has nothing to do with privacy if you hear it through.  I grew up in a family that heals holistically.  That's nothing private about that.  Gazillions of families practice that way.  It's not a secret.    

People are just confused about the whole privacy issue and how it relates to health care in this country.  They're stretching it to cover where it doesn't cover. Much ado about nothing.    

Now, I'm not a doctor but I play one on TV.  Where's worcester when you need him!!  

db

dbrown,

"Now, I'm not a doctor but I play one on TV.  Where's worcester when you need him!!"  


Couldn't have said it better myself.


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Bob


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Please allow me to slightly alter my rhetoric on the CLE vs. BKN game tonight. BKN is not going to tank tonight. They will, however, SEVERELY UNDERESTIMATE the heart of the Cleveland Cavaliers with their hubris. They will be caught looking ahead to Boston (and some may argue correctly even looking passed Boston) and in the end will never see us nor the playoffs. ATL will be waiting for them on Thursday and ATL will provide the humiliating knockout blow much to EVERYONE'S surprise. Well, not ours here, of course. Oz has spoken.

db

dbrown4 wrote:Please allow me to slightly alter my rhetoric on the CLE vs. BKN game tonight.  BKN is not going to tank tonight.  They will, however, SEVERELY UNDERESTIMATE the heart of the Cleveland Cavaliers with their hubris.  They will be caught looking ahead to Boston (and some may argue correctly even looking passed Boston) and in the end will never see us nor the playoffs.  ATL will be waiting for them on Thursday and ATL will provide the humiliating knockout blow much to EVERYONE'S surprise.  Well, not ours here, of course.  Oz has spoken.      

db  

dbrown,






Bob


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