Free Agency 2022

Maybe I'm not understanding this, but why can't Brad say to the Spurs "don't waive Gallinari, trade him to us for TPE"?  Then we could offer him more than the MLE, right?  If the MLE is about $6.8M or so couldn't we trade for him using some of the big TPE for more than that?  That'll take Chicago right out of the equation. And the Spurs get salary relief, so they're getting something out of it too.


Bob


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Sounds like Danilo Gallinari will be deciding between Chicago and Boston for his next team. The Bulls have much of the full MLE to offer, roughly $8M AAV and a hair more than the Celtics. But Boston appears to be Gallo's preferred landing spot


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Good or bad??? Has to be a catch we are not seeing, or something else is in the works. ESPN is so consumed with Durant and ripping Kyrie it is almost comical. Also comical is watching the relationship of Perk with RIchard Jefferson. Testy, testy, testy

bobheckler wrote:Good news, I guess, is that Beal isn't going anywhere and Durant doesn't have us on his list of preferred destinations which means that Jaylen Brown can sleep tight tonight.

Works for me.  Scal can eat shite.


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Its not up to Durant but Scal can still eat shite

The whole Perk/Jefferson back and forth is staged The Embrace debate era is in full effect. Very little substance and fake fights. Yippee!

bobheckler wrote:Maybe I'm not understanding this, but why can't Brad say to the Spurs "don't waive Gallinari, trade him to us for TPE"?  Then we could offer him more than the MLE, right?  If the MLE is about $6.8M or so couldn't we trade for him using some of the big TPE for more than that?  That'll take Chicago right out of the equation.  And the Spurs get salary relief, so they're getting something out of it too.


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I think he has a nonguaranteed contract which is why he can be waived and not cost a bundle. Does Chicago have more than the lower MLE?

If he goes with the Bulls it will not be the end of the world

The Bucks managed to resign Portis and they have added Joe Engles.

If I was a betting man I would bet that Miami ends up with Durant.

The Celtics could benefit is a third team is needed to take on some salary.

The Bulls have the full MLE to offer so if they want Gallinari they can get him. I think with the trade his guaranteed money will be around $11.6 million. Thanks but no thanks.

We get anybody yet????????

We get anybody yet????

A lot of guys are resigning with their teams.

Our target for using our MLE is getting smaller. It seems like every player on my wish list for the MLE are gone already.

I am starting to feel that Brad will not fire his big gun. If he can only get one quality addition instead of 2 average or below guys I can live with that.

New rumors anyone?

We get anybody yet?

With the Hawks moving 3 first round picks I think Huerter should be a target for our larger TPE.

It will probably cost a 1st rounder.

I think he could be a really good shooter off the bench and also rotate into our starting unit when we roll out 3 wings. He does not take a lot of shots so that fits in with the Jays.

Rubio back to the Cavs. We still aint get nobody yet?

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-free-agency-2022-zion-williamson-new-orleans-pelicans-agree-to-maximum-contract-extension-130353850.html



NBA free agency 2022: Zion Williamson to sign maximum extension with New Orleans Pelicans


Ben Rohrbach

Fri, July 1, 2022 at 9:03 AM·3 min read


Zion Williamson, the NBA's No. 1 overall pick in the 2019 draft, missed all of last season with a foot injury. (Chris Graythen/Getty Images)



The New Orleans Pelicans will sign 22-year-old oft-injured occasional superstar Zion Williamson to a five-year, $193 million designated player contract extension, according to The Athletic's Shams Charania.

The deal will pay him $231 million if he makes an All-NBA team or wins league MVP honors next season.

Both sides previously expressed optimism about this contract, despite Williamson's health, which has limited him to 85 games in his first three years, including all of last season, and several reports of friction between Pelicans executive vice president David Griffin and the player he drafted No. 1 overall in 2019.

"It's not a big decision; it's a pretty easy decision," Griffin said on The Ryen Russillo Podcast of offering Williamson a max deal. "The kid's historically good when he plays. ... This is a max player. That's easy."

Knee problems followed Williamson into the NBA, and a torn right meniscus cost him all but 24 games of his rookie year. He averaged 27 points (on 61/29/70 shooting splits), 7.2 rebounds and 3.7 assists in 33.2 minutes over 61 games during the 2020-21 campaign, making an All-Star appearance in his lone stretch of healthy basketball in the league. But a fractured right foot sidelined him for the entirety of last season.

The injuries raised questions about Williamson's conditioning at 6-foot-6 and (perhaps conservatively) 284 pounds. No player under 6-9 is within 25 pounds of Williamson's listed weight, and nobody comparable to his height and weight has ever enjoyed a long NBA career. Then again, nobody that size is as exceptionally athletic as Williamson, whose highlight reels made him the most anticipated prospect since LeBron James.

The Pelicans are banking on Williamson's fulfilling that promise over the life of his contract extension, and their commitment signals confidence that his foot and knee problems may not be longterm concerns.

Whether or not Williamson finishes this deal in New Orleans, even if healthy, will be the subject of much debate in the years to come. Both Chris Paul and Anthony Davis, the only other superstars the franchise has ever known, both requested trades from the small market before the end of their similar contracts.

Those concerns fueled debate long before this deal. If you trust the reporting from the last three years, Williamson was unhappy with the organization's cautious treatment of his knee injury, and his rehabilitation from the foot injury at Nike's Oregon facilities did not quell those rumors. Neither did reports of Williamson's family wanting out of New Orleans or his stilted communication with new teammate CJ McCollum.

All the while, Williamson insisted, "Anybody that knows me ... they know that I love New Orleans," "I do want to be here," and, when asked about the possibility of an extension, "I couldn’t sign it fast enough.”

The Pelicans' success without Williamson this past season helped sell Williamson on the team's direction. Brandon Ingram continued to perform at a star level. Second-round pick Herbert Jones was a revelation. Trades for Jonas Valanciunas and McCollum brought veteran stability to an otherwise inexperienced roster.

Together, they pushed the Pelicans from a 3-16 start to a play-in tournament berth and the Western Conference's eighth seed. The 64-win Phoenix Suns needed an all-time great playoff performance from Paul to avoid a Game 7 in the first round against a New Orleans upstart. Adding Williamson to that series might have made all the difference, or at least that is the theory behind paying him to be that player.


Bob
MY NOTE:  Zion has played 2694 minutes in 85 games over the past three seasons.  He didn't play at all last year, so really that's 85 games in 2 years of play.  To add a little perspective Jayson Tatum played 2731 minutes over 76 games last year.  When Zion plays he's still playing at about half the usage of Jayson, and Zion hasn't played much.  He missed last year with a foot injury.  Not a shoulder or even back, a foot.  The feet and knees take a beating in basketball and his are already screaming in pain.

I do not see how this turns out well for NOP.  Zion does not seem to respect his body, as a tool for advancing his career, seriously.  Zion is going to be 22 next week, he probably thinks what he can do now he'll be able to do the rest of a long NBA career and beyond.  He won't.  At the rate he's going he might not even make it through this contract.  Who's his veteran mentor on that team?  Someone's got to get in that kid's ear and tell him he needs to push back from the buffet table.  Does the name "John Candy" mean anything to him?

29.4% from 3.  That's the bad news.  The good news is that Zion is averaging over 60% from the field career.  Have you ever heard of a non-center averaging > 60%?  He makes Charles Barkley look like a 99-pound weakling, and he wasn't. A mini-Diesel.


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Rubio reportedly returns to Cavs


Veteran point guard Ricky Rubio and the Cleveland Cavaliers are ready for a reunion. Per Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports and Chris Fedor of The Plain Dealer, Rubio and the Cavs have agreed to a three-year deal worth a reported $18.4 million. The Cavs added Rubio in a 2021 offseason trade and they flourished together, going 20-14 with him in the lineup before he tore his ACL in late December. Rubio was then dealt to the Indiana Pacers as part of the deal to acquire Caris Levert. Overall, he averaged 13.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg and 6.6 apg in 34 games last season.


Bob
MY NOTE:  $18M for 3 years?!  Only $6M/year?!  He's only 31 years old and was the #5 pick.  Remember when he was touted as "the next Pistol Pete"?  He's never lived up to his hype but he's a solid, veteran back up point guard for sure. When you look at some of the numbers that have been thrown around the last 24 hours this is a bit of a stunner to me.


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bobheckler wrote:Rubio reportedly returns to Cavs


Veteran point guard Ricky Rubio and the Cleveland Cavaliers are ready for a reunion. Per Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports and Chris Fedor of The Plain Dealer, Rubio and the Cavs have agreed to a three-year deal worth a reported $18.4 million. The Cavs added Rubio in a 2021 offseason trade and they flourished together, going 20-14 with him in the lineup before he tore his ACL in late December. Rubio was then dealt to the Indiana Pacers as part of the deal to acquire Caris Levert. Overall, he averaged 13.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg and 6.6 apg in 34 games last season.


Bob
MY NOTE:  $18M for 3 years?!  Only $6M/year?!  He's only 31 years old and was the #5 pick.  Remember when he was touted as "the next Pistol Pete"?  He's never lived up to his hype but he's a solid, veteran back up point guard for sure.  When you look at some of the numbers that have been thrown around the last 24 hours this is a bit of a stunner to me.


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how many ACL's has it been now?

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2022/07/what-options-are-left-for-celtics-in-free-agency-after-opening-day-of-deals.html



What options are left for Celtics in free agency after opening day of deals?



Updated: Jul. 01, 2022, 10:36 a.m. | Published: Jul. 01, 2022, 10:32 a.m.


By Brian Robb | brobb@masslive.com



The first day of free agency came and went without any movement for the Celtics. It was a similar slow start for Brad Stevens last offseason as the Celtics showed patience with their limited spending power before ultimately pouncing with the mid-level exception.

Boston is already reportedly in the mix for a couple of names (Danilo Gallinari, Thomas Bryant) as potential destinations but what’s left out there on the free agent market after Day 1? And what could the Celtics reasonably afford? Let’s take a look at each position to get a sense of what’s still available. We are also ignoring bigger names (like DeAndre Ayton) who the Celtics have no shot at due to their price tag.


Point guards

Colin Sexton

Elfrid Payton

Goran Dragic

DJ Augustin

Overview: The Celtics won’t be able to afford Sexton so the rest of this is veteran minimum fodder and not good options at that beyond Dragic.


Shooting guards

Jeremy Lamb

Avery Bradley

Lou Williams

Donte DiVincenzo

Wayne Ellington

Kent Bazemore

Ben McLemore

Overview: Lamb and DiVincenzo are the names to watch here. However, I’d expect their contract value to go around the taxpayer mid-level but the Celtics could make a play for them by promising a big role off the bench. Then again, those guys have started plenty in recent years so they may be in the hunt for that kind of opportunity regardless. Wouldn’t mind McLemore for the veteran’s minimum either as a shooter off the bench.


Small forwards

TJ Warren

Derrick Jones Jr.

Otto Porter Jr.

Cody Martin

Caleb Martin

Carmelo Anthony

Rodney Hood

Danilo Gallinari

Overview: Gallinari and Warren are the big prizes here and we know the Celtics are still in the mix for Gallinari as of Friday morning. Elsewhere, the top prizes will be Porter Jr. and the Martin brothers who probably will be getting mid-level money from someone. Hood, Anthony and Jones Jr. are looking at something closer to the veteran’s minimum.


Power forwards

Josh Okogie

Paul Millsap

LaMarcus Aldridge

Blake Griffin

Nemanja Bjelica

Eric Paschall

Overview: It’s a veteran’s minimum shopping bin! I wouldn’t hate Griffin on a veteran’s minimum deal as extra bench depth but he’s probably looking for a bigger role. Bjelica would be nice as a shooting weapon as well but the Warriors likely have the inside track on bringing him back at low money. None of these guys should be a priority but someone would be welcomed in a deep bench role on the cheap.


Centers

Montrezl Harrell

Jalen Smith

Kevin Looney

Robin Lopez

Thomas Bryant

Serge Ibaka

Gorgui Dieng

Dwight Howard

Ed Davis

Hassan Whiteside

Bismack Biyombo

Tristan Thompson

Overview: Plenty of limited veterans here. Bryant would be a nice upside bet on the cheap if the Celtics land him. Looney is going to be too expensive for Boston. Smith and Harrell will probably get a chunk of someone’s mid-level but anyone else on this list may just have to settle for the veteran’s minimum. That’s the only thing the Celtics will be offering to these guys so it’s just trying to nab the best of the bunch. A good signing here could allow Boston to free up some more spending power by dealing away Theis.


Bob


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Raptors Sign Thaddeus Young To Two-Year Extension


June 30th 2022 at 11:22pm CST by Rory Maher


11:22pm: The Raptors’ new deal with Young is already official, according to NBA.com’s transactions log. That signals that the team technically signed Young to a veteran extension on June 30, rather than waiting for him to reach the open market and signing him to a free agent contract.

For practical purposes, the outcome is the same — the Raptors have locked up Young to a deal reported to worth $16MM over two years. One notable difference is that he’ll become trade-eligible immediately instead of on December 15 like a free agent signee.

5:47pm: The Raptors are re-signing forward Thaddeus Young, according to Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports (Twitter link), who hears from agents Jim Tanner and Max Wiepking that Young will get a two-year, $16MM deal that includes incentives.

Toronto held Young’s Bird rights after acquiring him from San Antonio at February’s trade deadline, giving the Raptors the ability to exceed the salary cap to retain him.

Young, who turned 34 on June 21, averaged modest totals of 6.2 PPG, 4.0 RPG, 2.0 APG and 1.0 SPG on .518/.354/.469 shooting in 52 regular season games between the two teams last season (16.3 MPG). Still, he was productive on a per-minute basis, and is a smart player on both ends of the court who provides veteran leadership to a fairly young Raptors team.

The 15th pick of the 2007 draft, 2021/22 was Young’s 15th NBA season. He played for Philadelphia during his first seven seasons before bouncing around a little bit, making stops in Minnesota, Brooklyn, Indiana and Chicago prior to last season.

Young holds career averages of 12.8 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 1.8 APG and 1.4 SPG on .502/.332/.663 shooting in 1085 games (29.3 MPG). He’s unlikely to find a large role with Toronto over the next couple of seasons, but the Raptors traded their first-round pick in the draft (and got back an early second-rounder) to acquire him, so obviously they made re-signing him a priority.


Bob
MY NOTE:  I find it interesting that he's already eligible for trade.  I wouldn't be surprised if he's on the move again soon.  I've always liked Thaddeus Young, I've just never understood why it has never sunk in, even after 15 seasons in the NBA, that he is always, always, always going to go to his left hand.


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https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/07/trail-blazers-gary-payton-ii-finalizing-three-year-deal.html


Trail Blazers, Gary Payton II Finalizing Three-Year Deal


July 1st 2022 at 12:37am CST by Luke Adams


The Trail Blazers are finalizing a three-year contract agreement with free agent guard Gary Payton II, according to Shams Charania of The Athletic, who reports (via Twitter) that the deal is expected to be worth $28MM. It will include a player option and incentives, per Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports (Twitter link).

Jake Fischer of Bleacher Report first reported that Portland was in hot pursuit of Payton with a deal believed to be worth in the range of $8MM annually. The price tag reported by Charania comes in a little higher than that, as the Blazers have apparently committed to using most of their non-taxpayer mid-level exception to sign the 29-year-old.

Payton, who has never signed an NBA contract worth more than the minimum salary, caught on as the Warriors’ 15th man last fall, then secured a regular spot in the rotation, carving out a niche as a defensive stopper.

While most of Payton’s value stems from his ability to slow down perimeter scorers, he had his best offensive season in 2021/22 too, chipping in 7.1 PPG in just 17.6 MPG and shooting an impressive 61.6% from the floor. He played a key role in the Warriors’ championship run, returning from a fractured elbow in the NBA Finals to defend the likes of Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, and Marcus Smart.

As Anthony Slater of The Athletic tweets, Golden State wanted to bring back Payton but was unwilling to match Portland’s offer, which would have cost the Warriors exponentially more due to the subsequent luxury tax penalties.

Payton is on track to join a Portland team that has made it a priority this offseason to upgrade its defense and struck a deal last week to acquire forward Jerami Grant from Detroit. The Blazers were also linked earlier today to versatile free agent wing Bruce Brown, but he may be out of their price range now that they’re using their MLE on Payton.


Bob
MY NOTE: BIG loss for the Dubs. He was their Marcus Smart, their back court stopper.

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Bruce Brown to Denver.

We Nothing yet huh?

bobheckler wrote:https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/07/trail-blazers-gary-payton-ii-finalizing-three-year-deal.html


Trail Blazers, Gary Payton II Finalizing Three-Year Deal


July 1st 2022 at 12:37am CST by Luke Adams


The Trail Blazers are finalizing a three-year contract agreement with free agent guard Gary Payton II, according to Shams Charania of The Athletic, who reports (via Twitter) that the deal is expected to be worth $28MM. It will include a player option and incentives, per Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports (Twitter link).

Jake Fischer of Bleacher Report first reported that Portland was in hot pursuit of Payton with a deal believed to be worth in the range of $8MM annually. The price tag reported by Charania comes in a little higher than that, as the Blazers have apparently committed to using most of their non-taxpayer mid-level exception to sign the 29-year-old.

Payton, who has never signed an NBA contract worth more than the minimum salary, caught on as the Warriors’ 15th man last fall, then secured a regular spot in the rotation, carving out a niche as a defensive stopper.

While most of Payton’s value stems from his ability to slow down perimeter scorers, he had his best offensive season in 2021/22 too, chipping in 7.1 PPG in just 17.6 MPG and shooting an impressive 61.6% from the floor. He played a key role in the Warriors’ championship run, returning from a fractured elbow in the NBA Finals to defend the likes of Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, and Marcus Smart.

As Anthony Slater of The Athletic tweets, Golden State wanted to bring back Payton but was unwilling to match Portland’s offer, which would have cost the Warriors exponentially more due to the subsequent luxury tax penalties.

Payton is on track to join a Portland team that has made it a priority this offseason to upgrade its defense and struck a deal last week to acquire forward Jerami Grant from Detroit. The Blazers were also linked earlier today to versatile free agent wing Bruce Brown, but he may be out of their price range now that they’re using their MLE on Payton.


Bob
MY NOTE:  BIG loss for the Dubs.  He was their Marcus Smart, their back court stopper.

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Bad for GW (yay) Good for Portland. But...They gave Simons all that money which is ridiculous.

If I recall both Brad and Ime were pretty specific as it relates to team needs.  They mentioned playmaking and shooting.

During these new conferences an other interviews with the media it would really be helpful if the media asked more in depth questions.  

What do they really mean by playmaker?  I cannot imaging that they want to add another PG.  Smart and White will eat up most of the minutes there.

Maybe their reference to playmaking is not position specific.

Reliable shooting off the bench is still needed and since we are a 3Pt heavy team on offense, a quality 3 point shooter would fill that need.

Brian Robb's list is a smorgasbord of everything imaginable and lacks focus on what the Celtics need.

Ktron wrote:

bobheckler wrote:https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/07/trail-blazers-gary-payton-ii-finalizing-three-year-deal.html


Trail Blazers, Gary Payton II Finalizing Three-Year Deal


July 1st 2022 at 12:37am CST by Luke Adams


The Trail Blazers are finalizing a three-year contract agreement with free agent guard Gary Payton II, according to Shams Charania of The Athletic, who reports (via Twitter) that the deal is expected to be worth $28MM. It will include a player option and incentives, per Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports (Twitter link).

Jake Fischer of Bleacher Report first reported that Portland was in hot pursuit of Payton with a deal believed to be worth in the range of $8MM annually. The price tag reported by Charania comes in a little higher than that, as the Blazers have apparently committed to using most of their non-taxpayer mid-level exception to sign the 29-year-old.

Payton, who has never signed an NBA contract worth more than the minimum salary, caught on as the Warriors’ 15th man last fall, then secured a regular spot in the rotation, carving out a niche as a defensive stopper.

While most of Payton’s value stems from his ability to slow down perimeter scorers, he had his best offensive season in 2021/22 too, chipping in 7.1 PPG in just 17.6 MPG and shooting an impressive 61.6% from the floor. He played a key role in the Warriors’ championship run, returning from a fractured elbow in the NBA Finals to defend the likes of Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, and Marcus Smart.

As Anthony Slater of The Athletic tweets, Golden State wanted to bring back Payton but was unwilling to match Portland’s offer, which would have cost the Warriors exponentially more due to the subsequent luxury tax penalties.

Payton is on track to join a Portland team that has made it a priority this offseason to upgrade its defense and struck a deal last week to acquire forward Jerami Grant from Detroit. The Blazers were also linked earlier today to versatile free agent wing Bruce Brown, but he may be out of their price range now that they’re using their MLE on Payton.


Bob
MY NOTE:  BIG loss for the Dubs.  He was their Marcus Smart, their back court stopper.

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Bad for GW (yay) Good for Portland. But...They gave Simons all that money which is ridiculous.

ktron

That contract for Simons was outrageous but it ain't our money

dboss wrote:

Ktron wrote:

bobheckler wrote:https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/07/trail-blazers-gary-payton-ii-finalizing-three-year-deal.html


Trail Blazers, Gary Payton II Finalizing Three-Year Deal


July 1st 2022 at 12:37am CST by Luke Adams


The Trail Blazers are finalizing a three-year contract agreement with free agent guard Gary Payton II, according to Shams Charania of The Athletic, who reports (via Twitter) that the deal is expected to be worth $28MM. It will include a player option and incentives, per Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports (Twitter link).

Jake Fischer of Bleacher Report first reported that Portland was in hot pursuit of Payton with a deal believed to be worth in the range of $8MM annually. The price tag reported by Charania comes in a little higher than that, as the Blazers have apparently committed to using most of their non-taxpayer mid-level exception to sign the 29-year-old.

Payton, who has never signed an NBA contract worth more than the minimum salary, caught on as the Warriors’ 15th man last fall, then secured a regular spot in the rotation, carving out a niche as a defensive stopper.

While most of Payton’s value stems from his ability to slow down perimeter scorers, he had his best offensive season in 2021/22 too, chipping in 7.1 PPG in just 17.6 MPG and shooting an impressive 61.6% from the floor. He played a key role in the Warriors’ championship run, returning from a fractured elbow in the NBA Finals to defend the likes of Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, and Marcus Smart.

As Anthony Slater of The Athletic tweets, Golden State wanted to bring back Payton but was unwilling to match Portland’s offer, which would have cost the Warriors exponentially more due to the subsequent luxury tax penalties.

Payton is on track to join a Portland team that has made it a priority this offseason to upgrade its defense and struck a deal last week to acquire forward Jerami Grant from Detroit. The Blazers were also linked earlier today to versatile free agent wing Bruce Brown, but he may be out of their price range now that they’re using their MLE on Payton.


Bob
MY NOTE:  BIG loss for the Dubs.  He was their Marcus Smart, their back court stopper.

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Bad for GW (yay) Good for Portland. But...They gave Simons all that money which is ridiculous.

ktron

That contract for Simons was outrageous but it ain't our money

We're independently wealthy because we dont do dumb sh** like that. :>)