Celtics Related Trade Rumors

So in Perk's logic, The Celts trade JB who would be making about $60M large a year for five years for Beal who makes $45M large. Is that what I am understanding? The Celts then use that extra $15M a year to flesh out their roster.

First off, Bradley is frail. Jaylen outweighs him by 20 pounds of pure muscle.
Brad averaged 51.75 games a season for the past 4 years; Jaylen 61.5.

Rebounding? JB 6.9 last year, Bradley 3.9.
PPG? JB 26.6 last year. BB 23.2.

What about turnovers, Jaylen's Achilles heel? JB 2.9 per game last year, BB 2.5.

Defense? Why bother? There's no comparison.

I don't get a JB/BB trade. Makes no basketball sense to me. Flush it.

I have a trade idea that might not work money wise, but would make us stronger IMO: Tatum and Brown for Giannis and Portis. We would be losing two very talented wings, gaining perhaps the game’s best player who could join the two W’s, Smart, White, Brogdan, Horford. Portis would bring toughness inside. hawk

This is a joke right?

worcester wrote:So in Perk's logic, The Celts trade JB who would be making about $60M large a year for five years for Beal who makes $45M large. Is that what I am understanding? The Celts then use that extra $15M a year to flesh out their roster.

First off, Bradley is frail. Jaylen outweighs him by 20 pounds of pure muscle.
Brad averaged 51.75 games a season for the past 4 years; Jaylen 61.5.

Rebounding? JB 6.9 last year, Bradley 3.9.
PPG? JB 26.6 last year. BB 23.2.

What about turnovers, Jaylen's Achilles heel? JB 2.9 per game last year, BB 2.5.

Defense? Why bother? There's no comparison.

I don't get a JB/BB trade. Makes no basketball sense to me. Flush it.

worcester,

I concur. The only differences that I can see between them other than their ages (Beal will be 30 in 2 weeks and Jaylen will be 27 in October) is that Beal is a bucket machine. Anytime. When you absolutely, positively need a bucket Bradley Beal is one of those players you want to give the ball to. Is Jaylen an All-Star level scorer? Yes, but if you absolutely, positively need a bucket is he the guy? Another difference is that Beal has only played 90 games in the last two seasons.

Having said all this I still wouldn't trade Brown for Beal. Perk's nuts.


Bob

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Uh, Perk also said MIA was winning the Finals. I'm just sayin'. I concur with He's/Deez Nuts.

db

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2023/06/celtics-active-in-trade-talks-ahead-of-nba-draft-per-source.html



Celtics active in trade talks ahead of 2023 NBA Draft per source


Updated: Jun. 15, 2023, 12:10 p.m.|Published: Jun. 15, 2023, 12:04 p.m.


By Brian Robb | brobb@masslive.com



The Celtics may not be in the hunt for big names like Bradley Beal ahead of the 2023 NBA Draft but that has not stopped Brad Stevens and the rest of Boston’s front office from seeking out potential upgrades. A league source tells MassLive that the Celtics have been one of the more active teams in the league in trade talks ahead of Thursday’s draft.

Boston only holds the No. 35 overall pick but the team is looking at making potential tweaks to the supporting cast around Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. The Celtics are particularly loaded in the backcourt with Marcus Smart, Derrick White, Malcolm Brogdon and Payton Pritchard all under contract for next season and the team is investigating moving a guard to improve other areas of the roster per a league source.


Pritchard has been open about his desire for more playing time during this past season in Boston or a new home but the Celtics may find more financial flexibility to improve other areas of the roster by moving a higher-paid guard like Smart or Brogdon.

One other area to watch is the status of power forward Grant Williams. The Celtics will extend him a qualifying offer later this month to make him a restricted free agent but the team could lose access to the taxpayer midlevel exception ($5 million) if they agree to a pricy long-term deal with him. Cutting salary in other parts of the roster would open the door for Boston to keep Williams and still use the mid-level exception but Williams’ future with the franchise will largely be dependent on potential other moves leading into his free agency on June 30th.


There are currently only seven teams with cap room to offer more than the midlevel exception (over $12 million) to the restricted free agent. None of those teams are contenders at the moment but one to keep an eye on will be the Pacers. Indiana has $27 million in cap room and has a potential opening in their starting power forward spot.

Indiana already has 12 players under contract heading into next season as well as three 2023 first-round picks so they won’t have a lot of roster space to add free agents. The possibility of a sign-and-trade here could appeal to Boston if Williams gets an offer that is beyond the team’s price range from Indiana. Teams will have just 24 hours to match any restricted free agent offer sheets signed under the new NBA CBA which goes into effect this summer.


NBA Free Agency opens up at 6 p.m. on June 30th.


Bob
MY NOTE:  The NBA draft is one week from today, June 22nd.  It's going to take more than Pritchard and a #35 to move up in the draft very far.  The rumors are about to going to start coming hotter and heavier with the draft only 7 days away and free agency only 15 days away.  


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https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2023/06/malcolm-brogdon-trade-scenarios-for-celtics-examining-5-potential-deals.html



Malcolm Brogdon trade scenarios for Celtics: Examining 5 potential deals


Updated: Jun. 14, 2023, 1:40 p.m.|Published: Jun. 14, 2023, 1:34 p.m.


By Brian Robb | brobb@masslive.com



The Celtics made a big bet on Malcolm Brogdon last offseason and the veteran guard delivered with a Sixth Man of the Year campaign for his new team during the regular season. An untimely arm injury hindered his production in the playoffs before the Celtics fell short of the NBA Finals but the decision to acquire Brogdon was entirely defensible. He posted a career-high in 3-point shooting, he accepted his bench role well and was largely a good solider amid a chaotic season for Boston following the suspension of Ime Udoka.

The Celtics originally acquired Brogdon expecting he would be here for the long haul, with his contract lasting through the 2024-25 season. However, the arrival of the new CBA makes that expectation less of a sure thing. Boston is about to commit big money to Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum and they already have big deals committed to Derrick White and Marcus Smart in the backcourt as well.

Brogdon earning $22.5 million for each of the next two seasons is suddenly a tougher sell alongside Smart and White when factoring in team building limitations in the CBA and tax implications. On paper, the Celtics can keep White, Smart and Brogdon around together for at least one more season but they may be better off allocating some of those resources elsewhere with a cheaper alternative (Payton Pritchard) already waiting in the wings. Keeping Grant Williams and using the taxpayer midlevel exception this offseason gets a lot easier if Boston can move some salary. Brogdon is one candidate for that.


If Boston takes that track, Brogdon or Smart is a potential player to shop to create some additional flexibility while opening the door to improving other areas of the roster. From a continuity standpoint, dealing Smart would be a far bigger shakeup to the team’s core and Brad Stevens has signaled he’s leaning against doing that in his end-of-season pres conference. That makes Brogdon a logical piece to consider moving if the price is right. Are there any dance partners out there where Brogdon could be a logical fit? Let’s take a look at a few possibilities.


Reuniting with an old friend?

Malcolm Brogdon for Evan Fournier and draft asset

Analysis: This would be a move that would be more about setting up the team for the future (and CBA limitations) rather than the present. Fournier was a DNP-CD for much of last season with the Knicks after falling out of their rotation. However, his contract is cheaper than Brogdon’s by a few million dollars and it’s an expiring deal so it solves a long-term luxury tax crunch issue for Boston.

Would Fournier be capable of a bounce-back season in Boston? If not, Boston could shop him with draft assets for a different fit. Would the Knicks be open to adding another guard to their young crowded backcourt? If so, this is a logical, if not underwhelming potential match that helps Boston more long-term than immediately.


Clippers

Malcolm Brogdon for pricy supporting player X (Eric Gordon, Norm Powell, Marcus Morris etc.)

Analysis: There is a high level of urgency right now for a Clippers squad that keeps coming up short in the postseason thanks to injuries to their stars. One other issue in LA is the lack of a reliable point guard. The John Wall experiment failed. Russell Westbrook did better but doesn’t seem like the championship answer. Could Boston sell the Clippers on Brogdon as their point guard solution? Powell or Gordon would provide some needed reinforcements on the wing although Powell’s long-term deal may be too pricy for Boston to want to take on. Marcus Morris is also surely available too if the Celtics want the expiring contract and maybe another player or draft asset.


Lakers

Malcolm Brogdon for Malik Beasley and Max Christie

Analysis: Same concept here as the Clippers sell at point guard. Beasley is on an expiring deal (assuming the Lakers pick up the team option on him) and he makes about six million dollars less than Brogdon. The Lakers have the ability to bring back D’Angelo Russell but after his benching in the postseason, they could be looking for an upgrade there. Brogdon provides a more steady offensive presence and more size defensively. The Lakers may have their sights set on bigger names (Chris Paul) at point guard but Brogdon could be an appealing backup plan with the Celtics getting a talent downgrade but a 3-point gunner in Beasley.


Backup plan for Raptors or 76ers?

Malcolm Brogdon into a TPE?

Analysis: Toronto and Philadelphia have their own free agent guards they are prioritizing this summer in Fred VanVleet and James Harden respectively. If either of those guys finds new homes, each roster will have a glaring hole at the guard spot in a year they want to be competitive. Assuming a sizable TPE is created by either franchise, Brogdon could be an asset that is available from Boston’s end. The Celtics surely won’t give away Brogdon to a rival but some compensation along with the creation of their own TPE could appeal to Boston to upgrade their own roster elsewhere.


Veteran for rebuilding squad?

There could be seven teams with the cap room to absorb Brogdon’s deal but all of those franchises don’t have title aspirations next year. That makes them unlikely to give up anything of value for the veteran point guard but he could serve as a mentor/role model for some of the younger players on these squads if they miss out on bigger free agent targets.


What about a Bradley Beal trade involving Brogdon?

Beal earns $43.2 million and is under contract through 2026-27 for nearly $200 million. That would make him a very costly acquisition from a salary-matching standpoint and would create a big long-term flexibility problem for Boston when Tatum and Brown’s new supermax deals kick in. Essentially, one of the stars would have to be moved in a couple of years and it would still be very challenging to build a roster around the two supermax contracts remaining.

So would there be any version of a Beal deal that makes sense for Boston that doesn’t include Brown? A package of Brogdon and Marcus Smart would make the money work for the upcoming season. However, that’s the ultimate win-now move for a roster that’s probably only sustainable for one year with those stars at that price range since Brown/Beal/Tatum would make over $130 million combined in 2024-25. Beal’s contract is already an albatross under the new CBA so don’t look for the Celtics to get involved here.


Final Thoughts

A Brogdon trade this summer is far from a sure thing but this is an avenue the team will need to explore if they want to keep around the core of this roster for the long haul. Pushing their chips towards the middle for the next two years would let them keep most of their current roster around but that will lead to serious tax and team-building limitations later this decade. Moving a player like Brogdon now may help better allocate resources on next year’s roster while setting up an easier path to sustaining a long-term contender.


Bob
MY NOTE:  Personally, I'm not crazy about any of these proposed trades.  We're giving up the reigning NBA 6th Man, who could start on a lot of NBA teams, for whom?  Almost 31 year old Fournier, who was downgraded to the bench by Thibs and shot 30.7% from 3 last year?  Norman Powell would be nice, he's a shooter for sure, only 30 but without Brogdon's passing abilities.  He's the only player mentioned I have any interest in at all.  Almost 34 year old Morris?  Gimme a break.  Same with 34 year old Gordon.  Not a fan of Beasley, he has a lousy attitude.  Max Christie was a rookie that played a total of 512 minutes last year for the Lakers despite them dealing with a ton of injuries.  And why would we want players from lousy teams?  If they were good the teams wouldn't be so bad, OR they were such marginal players they couldn't get on the floor, OR both (see Christie, Max).  And as far as giving Brogdon to intra-division rivals like Toronto and Philly for a TPE and no upgrade to our roster, that's just plain nuts. NONE of these proposals fix our issues with our front court. These are all about swapping out one guard for others (with the exception of Morris).

Really, I expected better from Brian Robb.  I understand the need to deal with the salary issues surrounding signing Jaylen and Grant but in order for these to work the incoming salary has to be close, except for the TPE idea which is in my opinion a lousy idea.


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there is not one trade their that even moves me to a OH GREAT!!! I know we are paying Brogden alot, but as far as I am concerned, until he got hurt in that last series, he was worth the money. And........I do not want to bother reading one trade scenario that includes White or Brown. I guess I am not as ready to jump ship as some of these reporters who think they know everything. I realize that a move is a possibility, maybe Malcolm wants to start????? Whatever the case, I would never make a great GM, I wear my heart on my sleeve

Hi, Rosalie...."This is a joke right?"...To my suggestion of trading Tatum and Brown and for Giannis and Portis)
I was half-kidding after looking at the cost of paying two stars maximum salaries. If their high salaries mean that the C's can't put a winning team on the floor, then I'm serious. If money's no object and we don't have trade away good players and we can add a good defensive big, I'm kidding.
This year's team was special when RW was on the floor, healthy and bouncy. That happened less than half the time. I wouldn't bet on it happening more next year. Therefore I think our #1 need is a tough defensive-minded big. Otherwise when the game is on the line, the Jimmy Butlers will drive, draw the double team, pass, and we're down another 3. I like Al, but he never was a center. He did well against Embiid, his old sparring partner, but Miami feasted on his D.
We're supposedly in the age of the wings, where centers are an after-thought. I don't buy it. Would Denver have won it all with a mediocre center? If Russell had been a guard, I doubt we'd be talking about the Russell years, any more than we talk about the Tiny years. All things being equal, size counts. (Sorry, I'm preaching, but I've been yelling this at the TV since KG and Perk).
As for the current bench - if Luke, Houser, Muscala, etc. aren't good enough to get 5 minutes in a tight game, I would send them packing. Love reading your comments. hawk

Hawk...thanks for your kind words, I think you and Gyso are the only ones who realize where I am coming from here. You mention Rob. i love the kid, but there is no way this team will go anywhere with him only playing 23 minutes a game (when he can) This is a big big problem for this team. He is so darn talented, but fragile. I do not understand the way teams approach playoffs now. You work all year long, get guys out there to help win games, and then, nothing in the playoffs. What is the purpose of a 7 to 8 man rotation when, if you were starving for rebounding, you could not have put Griffin in for 4 to 6 minutes here and there. He won us a game during the season in Philly. This is not just Joe, this is the league. I think this new contract has put a real hold on teams in the future. KJ was right, there go super teams, and maybe that is a good thing. The league is tiring of guys signing max contracts and, if things do not go their way, demand a trade. Super teams years ago were built on bit players all of a sudden turning their careers around and winning titles by playing the game the way it should be played. I am going on and on, I will be disappointed to see this team broken up, but who knows? Maybe I will be pleasantly surprised. I know one thing, I want Tatum and Brown to finish their careers in Boston. This franchise has worked hard to get the right players, I guess we were still one or two away this year. But....the Italian Stallion may be around to hit a few shots and win a few games for us. I just want to see how he will fit with this team, I am a bit prejudiced!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NYCelt wrote:

steve3344 wrote:

112288 wrote:

cowens/oldschool wrote:112288 I think your stats are way off…???

Cowen They were taken from one of the major sites that quote stats.  Again they are career stats. Look them up.

112288

cowens is correct. And you can look it up. You mistakenly list Brown's overall career shooting percentage the same as his career three point shooting - you have both at 36.5%. That's what got cowens' attention. Brown's career field goal percentage is .477, not .365. Check out his official stats here: https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/5602/. And it's not fair to Brown to compare only Simon's last two years' scoring average of 19.2, after he started to play regularly, to JB's entire career average of 17.9 (which includes his rookie year where he only played 17 minutes a game and averaged 6.6, plus two years after that where he wasn't a main go-to guy) and failing to point out that in Brown's last two years he averaged 25.1. But I will add that I would seriously consider trading Brown for Simons and the #3 pick (presumably Scoot Henderson, who is expected to quickly develop into an All-Star). I agree Simons is indeed a player. I've watched a lot of his games and he is a big time scorer. With Henderson (or Brandon Miller if Charlotte surprises the prognosticators and takes Scoot), that would give us two great young players to move forward with to offset giving up JB.

While I like and value Jaylen Brown, I understand why he gets floated in trade rumors. You have to give value to get value. For those of us who believe the roster needs to change to earn a title, and that change must include a couple of young but proven bigs, Jaylen makes sense as a centerpiece going out.

That being said, if we could end up with Anfernee Simons and Brandon Miller, who I prefer over Scoot Henderson, in order to add a forward with a little size, I would offer to pack Jaylen’s bags and pay for his flight out of town. Add Miller and Simons to a core of Tatum and Smart, retain at least one of White or Brogdon in a further deal to add one decent, but not necessarily All-Star caliber center? Where do I sign? It might be fantasy land, but it sounds ideal.

There are things about Brandon Miller that I find a whole lot more concerning than his lack of bulk. Here are some of them: Where did he get the murder weapon he gave to the two guys who are now charged with First Degree Murder for shooting one of them's girlfriend to death.What did he think they wanted the gun for ? Did he ask? What did they tell him? Did he know that there was bad blood between one of the killers and his girlfriend. It doesn't take a genius to know that someone suddenly needing a firearm is a red flag. Finally, did he find it funny when, before his first game after the killing, one of his teammates pretended to frisk him? I don't.

Here's more on the incident:

https://www.tuscaloosanews.com/story/sports/college/basketball/2023/06/15/brandon-miller-video-court-testimony-january-15-fatal-shooting-tuscaloosa-jamea-harris/70291776007/

Unsecure loaded gun in his car.  After midnight.  Lots of folks hanging around with hurt feelings?

Bad decisions all around.  IMO, whoever owns the gun and left it available to others to use holds much of the responsibility for what happened that night.  

We don't need that guy on our team.  Dump Jaylen for that guy?

No.

Ya boy Perk is at it again!
His reach and frequency is becoming louder than two skeletons dancing on a tin roof…
(Don't shoot the messenger)

Ktron wrote:Ya boy Perk is at it again!
His reach and frequency is becoming louder than two skeletons dancing on a tin roof…
(Don't shoot the messenger)

Yes, let's take a look at this later this summer to see how he does with his guesses.

Ima guess he is wrong on #1. I have read about #2-#4. I haven't heard #5 yet, but it may be out there.

https://heavy.com/sports/boston-celtics/western-conference-contender-emerge-suitors-celtics-guard/



Western Conference Contender Emerge as Suitors for Celtics’ Guard: Report


By Adam Taylor

Updated Jun 17, 2023 at 5:05am


Malcolm Brogdon has become the latest member of the Boston Celtics roster to find his name being floated in trade rumors.

On Friday, June 16, Yahoo Sports Jake Fischer reported that the Phoenix Suns could be interested in acquiring the reigning Sixth Man of the Year if they decide to move on from veteran point guard Chris Paul.


“Two names to keep an eye on in Phoenix’s trade pursuits: Atlanta Hawks forward John Collins and Boston Celtics guard Malcolm Brogdon,” Fischer wrote. “The Suns acquiring either of those veterans might require a third team to accept Paul’s outgoing salary — such as the Houston Rockets with their $60 million of cap space and counting — but Brogdon and Collins are a pair of players Phoenix has registered interest in during trade conversations with Boston and Atlanta, respectively, that date back to the trade deadline, sources said.”


Brogdon has struggled with injuries throughout his career, with the 2022-23 season behind his healthiest since his rookie year. Yet, when healthy, Brogdon is an elite scorer who can also dictate the flow of an offense.


Celtics are ‘Fielding Calls’ Regarding Guard Rotation

According to a June 16 report by Bleacher Report’s Chris Haynes, the Boston Celtics are taking calls regarding multiple members of their current guard rotation.

“The Boston Celtics are fielding calls on the multitude of quality guards on their roster, sources tell B/R,” Haynes wrote. “With Marcus Smart, Derrick White, Malcolm Brogdon, and Payton Pritchard all deserving of playing time, Boston is looking to create some position balance.”


Following his stellar performances throughout last season, White is likely to be retained moving forward. However, arguments can be made for trading Smart, Brogdon, or Pritchard, and there is certainly the potential for two of those three guards to be moved on during the off-season – especially if it allows Brad Stevens to add depth on the wing and center positions.


Pacers Interested in Acquiring Grant Williams

While the Celtics’ guard rotation is currently the primary topic of conversation, the future of Grant Williams is bubbling away under the surface. This summer, Williams will be a restricted free agent after failing to sign a contract extension during the 2022 offseason.

According to Jake Fischer, the Indiana Pacers are the latest team to register their interest in Boston’s three-and-d forward.

“The Pacers are expected to be one team in the mix for restricted free agent Grant Williams as well,” Fischer wrote.


Boston will be able to match any offer sheet that Williams signs, should they choose to do so. However, there will certainly be a line in the sand that Boston will likely be unwilling to cross. As such, it will be interesting to see what types of deals Williams is offered once the free agency period gets underway, as he struggled with injury following the All-Star break and saw his role within the rotation become inconsistent as a result.

Nevertheless, Williams has developed into a genuine three-point weapon who can defend multiple positions at a high level – team’s around the NBA will value that, which could put the Celtics in a difficult situation in the coming months.


Bob
MY NOTE:  Yeah, I just bet Phoenix would love to replace CP3 with Brogdon.  If there's a 3rd party involved I just hope they're the ones who take Chris Paul and not us.  Don't F this up, Brad!

Grant in Indy?  I'm sure they would love that.   I think they could just outbid us for him, but if they want to gain some salary relief who would we take from them.  I want Myles Turner, but that trade won't happen.  They have 3 other bigs:  Isaiah Jackson, Jalen Smith and Theis.  I like Theis, always have, but I'm not sure he's what we need now.

Wyc and Pags took on a ton of salary last year because they thought we were just a finishing piece (Brogdon) from finishing the job we came so close to the year before with GSW.  Now I think they're in semi-rebuilding mode by shedding salary.


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I'm with gyso on Brandon Miller. If he wasn't a Crimson Tide star I'm pretty darn sure, from the article that sox posted, that he would have caught a charge over this.

bobheckler wrote:https://heavy.com/sports/boston-celtics/western-conference-contender-emerge-suitors-celtics-guard/



Western Conference Contender Emerge as Suitors for Celtics’ Guard: Report


By Adam Taylor

Updated Jun 17, 2023 at 5:05am


Malcolm Brogdon has become the latest member of the Boston Celtics roster to find his name being floated in trade rumors.

On Friday, June 16, Yahoo Sports Jake Fischer reported that the Phoenix Suns could be interested in acquiring the reigning Sixth Man of the Year if they decide to move on from veteran point guard Chris Paul.


“Two names to keep an eye on in Phoenix’s trade pursuits: Atlanta Hawks forward John Collins and Boston Celtics guard Malcolm Brogdon,” Fischer wrote. “The Suns acquiring either of those veterans might require a third team to accept Paul’s outgoing salary — such as the Houston Rockets with their $60 million of cap space and counting — but Brogdon and Collins are a pair of players Phoenix has registered interest in during trade conversations with Boston and Atlanta, respectively, that date back to the trade deadline, sources said.”


Brogdon has struggled with injuries throughout his career, with the 2022-23 season behind his healthiest since his rookie year. Yet, when healthy, Brogdon is an elite scorer who can also dictate the flow of an offense.


Celtics are ‘Fielding Calls’ Regarding Guard Rotation

According to a June 16 report by Bleacher Report’s Chris Haynes, the Boston Celtics are taking calls regarding multiple members of their current guard rotation.

“The Boston Celtics are fielding calls on the multitude of quality guards on their roster, sources tell B/R,” Haynes wrote. “With Marcus Smart, Derrick White, Malcolm Brogdon, and Payton Pritchard all deserving of playing time, Boston is looking to create some position balance.”


Following his stellar performances throughout last season, White is likely to be retained moving forward. However, arguments can be made for trading Smart, Brogdon, or Pritchard, and there is certainly the potential for two of those three guards to be moved on during the off-season – especially if it allows Brad Stevens to add depth on the wing and center positions.


Pacers Interested in Acquiring Grant Williams

While the Celtics’ guard rotation is currently the primary topic of conversation, the future of Grant Williams is bubbling away under the surface. This summer, Williams will be a restricted free agent after failing to sign a contract extension during the 2022 offseason.

According to Jake Fischer, the Indiana Pacers are the latest team to register their interest in Boston’s three-and-d forward.

“The Pacers are expected to be one team in the mix for restricted free agent Grant Williams as well,” Fischer wrote.


Boston will be able to match any offer sheet that Williams signs, should they choose to do so. However, there will certainly be a line in the sand that Boston will likely be unwilling to cross. As such, it will be interesting to see what types of deals Williams is offered once the free agency period gets underway, as he struggled with injury following the All-Star break and saw his role within the rotation become inconsistent as a result.

Nevertheless, Williams has developed into a genuine three-point weapon who can defend multiple positions at a high level – team’s around the NBA will value that, which could put the Celtics in a difficult situation in the coming months.


Bob
MY NOTE:  Yeah, I just bet Phoenix would love to replace CP3 with Brogdon.  If there's a 3rd party involved I just hope they're the ones who take Chris Paul and not us.  Don't F this up, Brad!

Grant in Indy?  I'm sure they would love that.   I think they could just outbid us for him, but if they want to gain some salary relief who would we take from them.  I want Myles Turner, but that trade won't happen.  They have 3 other bigs:  Isaiah Jackson, Jalen Smith and Theis.  I like Theis, always have, but I'm not sure he's what we need now.

Wyc and Pags took on a ton of salary last year because they thought we were just a finishing piece (Brogdon) from finishing the job we came so close to the year before with GSW.  Now I think they're in semi-rebuilding mode by shedding salary.


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I don't think Brad would be dumb enough to take back Chris Paul in a Brogdon trade with Phoenix. (At least I hope not). Not sure we could swing Ayton as the salaries don't match, so would need a third team to be involved. If giving up a very good player in Brogdon would have to get a good big man back. Would love to find a way to get some Beef Stew from Detroit.

Terrific on a number of levels!

gyso wrote:

Ktron wrote:Ya boy Perk is at it again!
His reach and frequency is becoming louder than two skeletons dancing on a tin roof…
(Don't shoot the messenger)

Yes, let's take a look at this later this summer to see how he does with his guesses.

Ima guess he is wrong on #1.  I have read about #2-#4.  I haven't heard #5 yet, but it may be out there.

If I have any say,  #5 will be sent to The Guantanamo Bay Buzzards in the D* league.
*Detention Basketball Association

With all the trade rumors and all the conversation about the predictable increase in payroll I think this is a critical time for the Celtics.

Roster moves are a seasonal reality. It is like waiting for the Sun to rise on the Sahara Desert.

The Celtics need to add a quality big. The chances of being able to acquire one without moving a core guy seems improbable.

When you look at the deepest part of the roster, it would be at the point guard position. Moving PP is definitely on the Celtics radar but I do not know what you can get back.

Grant Williams has the QO on the table. He is a RFA. His stock seems to have decline YOY and I really do not see him getting big offers from any team. There are only a few team out there under the CAP. Grant is ranked at #30 on the free agency list (Hoops Hype)

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2023-nba-free-agent-rankings-top-players-available-summer/

I would be surprised if he gets any offers given the competition and limited money available.

I think a 2 year deal would be about right. Something in the QO range for 2 years.

The Celtics are likely to avoid any sign and trades.

The most valuable trade chip (excluding the jays) is probably Malcolm Brogdon. He was really good on offense but on defense he was surprisingly feeble. A trade involving MB to get us a quality big will bring more balance to the team. I really like MB but I would not be upset if they moved him

Believe or not the one PG that I would not move is Derrick White.

The Celtics are likely to use the 2nd round pick.

I think Boston can become a better team by adding a quality big and also adding a long athletic wing.

I also think that JD Davidson may be able to get some playing time.

I am disappointed that we will probably by forced to give up Brogden If that is the case, I somehow feel that Pritchard is NOT the answer to his replacement, and our depth will really suffer, I know he had a rough Miami series, but he was injured. He brought so much stability to that second unit. I wonder….or have wondered here before…..if he might be looking for a starting job as he talked about how hard it was to come off the bench.

Davidson still puzzles me a bit, he is a wild man out there and needs some reall training to be of value to a championship team. So many questions. So little time, so few answers

Today is Sunday, so no deals will be done today (I think).  The draft is this Thursday, so I'm expecting a flurry of deals as teams move up/down/out of the draft and facilitate those movements with exchanges of players.

Strap yourselves in for the next 100 hours or so.  The new CBA will make this year a bit crazier than otherwise since adjustments now have to be made, and they'll have to be made by a lot of teams. Those changes represent opportunities for Brad.  


Bob


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My personal feeling is that we may be in for a shock and the person traded will be Rob Williams. Wrong? Maybe, but I believe they have tired of waiting for the second coming.

Bea;l to Suns

Still trying to find out for who and who else?????