Re: Hello again

by **The Duke** Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:45 pm

Thanks for the update Sam!!

by **Sara** Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:50 am

mrkleen09 wrote:Welcome Sara.

Look forward to getting this work stoppage sorted out so we can hear more of your opinions on the 2011-12 Celtics.

Best,

Paul

Hey Paul, I hope they get things sorted out quickly as well.

Hopefully both our teams will have good seasons.

by **Sara** Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:51 am

willjr wrote:Welcome Sara. As I've posted earlier to Duke I will echo those sentiments to you. I still go to BDC daily and I'm very familiar with and have enjoyed reading your posts over there. There are some really great people on this site who bring a treasure trove of knowledge and perspective, both on basketball and life in general. Glad to have you and I know you will fit right in and love it here.

Thanks for the welcome Very Happy

by **Sara** Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:01 am

bobheckler wrote:Welcome Sara,

We have Laker fans here on this board and they are not trolls. I suppose if you can peacefully coexist with most of your family, you should do ok here too. You might even come to realize Father Knows Best. :-)

I live in the San Francisco bay area.

bob

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Hi Bob!

My family sees eye to eye when it comes to Ice Hockey Smile

Dad was more bemused than anything else when I became a Lakers fan. Although he was unimpressed when Holly became a Laker girl as well!

Actually made for great fun in 2008 and 2010 when both teams played against one another in a meaningful series. We'd watch the games back in the evening as a family without knowing the score and it was a real emotional roller coaster ride.

We were pretty fair when it came to calling plays as we saw them we're pretty much even minded when it comes to the game, if either the Lakers or Celtics got a poor call we'd say it. And there were some controversial calls in both 2008 and 2010, but that's the finals though.

Oddly though, I was happy to see the Celtics win in 2008 for my Dad and brothers. Also for the older Celtics legends such as Russell, Cousy, Sam Jones and the rest. Not happy that it came at our expense in a sense, but then I'd always wanted to see a Lakers/Celtics finals.

Hopefully for The Celtics they'll stay a strong team for years into the future. Makes for a good NBA to have the traditional teams playing strong basketball. If only Philadelphia would get it's act together.

by **Sara** Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:16 am

sam wrote:Hi Sara,

My wife also has your name, but with the same "h" as Beat's daughter.

Welcome to the board. We hope you'll post early and often, especially when there's basketball to post about.

I learned a lot from our Lakers fans on the board. I very much appreciate that, if there were no Lakers, there would be no Celtics. And the civil presence of the Lakers fans make us better Celtics fans too.

I have to agree about Worthy. I thought the dimension James added to the Lakers was actually more unique than that of either Magic or Kareem (although both were great players). Worthy was always the one I was most scared of in the 80s. Funny you mention the goggles. I always thought the goggles made him look sort of like a racehorse, which is precisely what he was.

I believe the Australian's board name was Soprecise. I recall that he was the first one to suggest that we all post profiles of ourselves on the board; and, ironically, you're following in his tradition. And, 1986 is a Filipino who's a member of this board, although I believe he posts mainly on BDC. There are actually 50 Filipino Celtics fans who often watch games together at a sports bar, have formed a Celtics club, and even have a Celtics library (to which I've sent a few things). Bert is an amazingly articulate Filipino sports writer who is at BDC and hasn't joined this board but has sent many copies of a magazine ("Tower Sports") for which he has written—often about the Celtics. I believe the Puerto Rican member of this board (although he doesn't post often) is "International" (although it's spelled "Intelnational" on this board).

Congratulations on looking forward to a Master's Degree and further study. What's your major? Best of luck in your future academic career, and it will be a pleasure to see you posting here.

Thanks for joining,

Sam

Hi Sam

It's great to be here thank you very much for the warm welcome.

I feel the same way about the Celtics. That golden period was a magical time for basketball in my opinion. The league must have been so different during that period, was watching the NBA at 50 documentary and made me wish I was there to see it. Have a lot of respect for all of the pioneers of Basketball. Not only for developing a fun game to appreciate, but for starting to break down the race barrier in sports. Really do put Red Auerbach at the fore front of this. I'm not sure if he did it as a conscious thing, but I feel it was extraordinary. The Celtics have so many firsts in regards to race, and really I hate the word race as we are all one race. Have to think of something better for it. But an African American starting five, then having Russell as head coach. Amazing.

Worthy was drafted into the perfect situation for him, was also a great selection by the Lakers as I don't know if a player such as Terry Cummings would have as perfect a fit. Not to decry Cummings as a player as he had a fine career, he was a just a different style of player to James.

Major is Biology. Hope to have a career in Medicine though once my studies are completed. I'm on track but there is still a lot of work to do. Aim is to specialize in treating children who are suffering from Craniosynostosis.

Sara.

by **Sara** Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:23 am

beat wrote:Sara

I have a daughter by that name but with an H tacked on at the end. She will be 20 next month and will be a Junior at SUNY Potsdam......and as required in our house, is a Celtic fan and dislikes Bron and the Lakers.

She has changed majors a couple times and even me "dad" is not sure of what it is right now. Working this summer at a local Best Buy as a member of the geek squad.

Glad someone your age can appreciate the history of hoops and not only that but takes the time to study it too. Keep posting. We do need some new knowlegeable folks on here and you and Duke seem to fit the bill.

A hearty welcome from the wilds of the Tug Hill in upstate New York.

beat

Hi Beat.

I'm glad your Daughter isn't a fan of Lebron. After the whole decision fiasco I'm not either. Should have been handled a lot better. However if the money was donated to a worthy cause it's ok. But really, Lebron could have given money to charity in another way. Wasn't a classy thing to do to the Cleveland fans.

I didn't have a lot of idea what I wanted to do when I started at University. I think it's hard to decide, some people in Australia chose a major only because they scored the required marks. Example some kids feel obligated to study Medicine or Law because they scored highly in their high school exams. Not because they have a passion for either Medicine or Law. Was lucky to find something that I loved Smile

Love basketball and it history. Fascinated by the sports early days. Love history in general.

Sara.

by **Sara** Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:30 am

RosalieTCeltics wrote:Hi Sara - I welcome you! It is so wonderful to have a female basketball fan on this site. Maybe in a while I may be able to turn you into a die hard Celtic fan, which I am. I grew up watching sports of all kinds, football and basketball being my favorites. When I was in high school I really became a huge Celtics fan, lying in bed at night with my transistor radio listening to Johnny Most describe every play to me. This is how I learned about basketball! After high school, while I was in business school I became a season's ticket holder, and followed Bill Russell and his band of talented players win title after title, and make Jerry West's life miserable!

After I got married I gave up my seats, but not my heart. I still followed the Celtics constantly. My favorite players from the Russell era were Russell and Havlicek. I continued on to the 70's, 80's, 90's and am still as devoted right now as I was then. I have stood in line from 2:00 in the morning waiting to
buy tickets to some of the most important games in the Celtics history. The best one was the triple overtime game they played against Phoenix in 1976!

The 1986 Celtics team was one of the most talented teams I have ever watched, after the 1962-63 team. The present team has won my heart as I am a huge Ray Allen fan. Ever since he came into the league I had dreams of him being in Celtic green, so you can imagine my delight when Danny Ainge traded for him!

Well, I have rambled on and on, which is something the guys here will tell you I do periodically. Welcome to our wonderful board, we will try our hardest to make you feel welcome and turn you into a Celtic lover as we all are.

As you can tell, I come from the Boston area, which makes it easier for me
to catch a game every now and then. Let's all hope that this crazy lockout business will end and we can all enjoy good basketball.

WELCOME!!!

Rosalie T

Hi Rosalie T

I love your avatar, great picture.

I'm a rambler as well as you can probably tell by some of my responses here Very Happy

You're lucky to have seen those great Celtics teams. Must have some really good memories. I'm amazed Jerry West didn't give up after being beaten so many times by the Celtics. And then after Russell retires to lose to New York. That must have been the lowest point for him. Got his reward though in '72, playing with in my mind one of the NBA's greatest ever teams. And that really was a team in my mind, West and Chamberlain no longer the stars of yesterday, but working beautifully with their team mates. That title for West was a long time coming but the way he won it was very special.

I love Ray Allen as well. He's a classy player and true professional. Was suprised when the Celtics traded for him, but it all came into focus once Garnett was traded to Boston. Shame for Bostons sake they didn't come a few years earlier. But I think the results since 2008 have been good for Boston fans, especially when you look at the previous decade. Used to love Ray when he played for Seattle and I still do. One of my favourite players.

Sara.

by **Sam** Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:08 am

Sara,

I don't know whether you'll be interested in the following. It involves basketball history, but from the perspective of a Celtics fan—myself. It's called "My Personal History of the Russell Celtics," and it's posted in the sub-forum called "Links, Books, Media and Sam's Writings" (on the home page of this Forum. I thought of it when you mentioned what it must have been like to watch a game in the old days. I spend some time describing exactly that toward the beginning. The rest is an account of each of Russell's 13 years from my personal perspective, for whatever it's worth.

There's also a writing called, "Here Come the World Champions....the Final Chapter in Basketball Camelot." That one involved my trip with the Celtics to Russell's last game in 1969—the famous "Balloon Game" at the L.A. Forum. There's a lot of stuff about living with the team, attending their last practice, playing bridge and getting a haircut with some team members, going to an all-night party with Havlicek afterwards, some philosophical musings on my part, etc. Again, it's obviously from a somewhat slanted perspective involving the Celtics (although there are some nice compliments for Jerry West), but one Celtics player (Bailey Howell) called it the truest account of a road trip he'd ever read.

No skin off my nose if you choose not to read them, but I thought they might hold at least some historical value for you. If you do read them, I hope you enjoy them.

And please forgive the typos.

Sam

by **bobheckler** Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:23 am

Sara,

As you are perhaps starting to see, we have some true Boston Celtic "Keepers of the Flame" here. The Original Boston Celtic Knight Templars. True Believers.

It's unusual to find a group of people, online, who can personally attest to that kind of history, even in other areas of interest beyond basketball. I enjoyed reading Sam's essay, I hope you take the time to read it as well, although with your study schedule that may not happen right away.

I hope you're starting to feel at home here, your unfortunate color-blindness notwithstanding.

:-)

Now if only the billionaires and the multi-millionaires could stop screwing around and give us some basketball to talk about...

bob

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by **RosalieTCeltics** Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:00 pm

Sara - I have a 91 year old Mom who is in love with the Celtics. She gets so mad when they are not on television. She is a hoot~ she has been a fan for years and years. The funny thing is, back when I started really following the
Celtics, she was a big fan too. However, her favorite player of all time was Jerry West. She still talks about what a wonderful shooter he was and what a fine gentleman he was. Even when the Celtics won, and she was happy for them, the next thing out of her mouth was how sad she was for Jerry!

I have read Sam's writings, he and I go back to the same era, the only thing was that Sam was lucky enough to get to know the men he wrote about. He writes about the "balloon game" in LA, and how much Celtics fans wanted them to win. I was offered tickets to that game, and my friends and
I were fighting with everyone about whether we should go. I was in the process of getting married, so better heads prevailed and we stayed home.
Everytime I read about that game, I kick myself for not going. There was
no way I could go to work the next morning, my crazy family was sending me telegrams to congratulate me, signing the names of Havlicek, Sam and Larry Seigfried. We are a crazy family!!!!!!!

So, you see, we may look through life in Green colored glasses, but,
there are most of us who are reasonable enough to recognize real talent
when we see it. I do have to say that there are some "stars" who will not
get respect even though they are multi talented. ALA: LeBron!

Rosalie

by **NYCelt** Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:53 pm

A quick welcome to Sara and Duke!

I'll have more time to post when I return next week but wanted to let you both know I'm happy the two of you have found us. It will be nice to add your perspectives. Duke; I'll have to find out more about your Rochester roots.

Regards

by **LACELTFAN** Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:28 am

Welcome Sara...

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