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Post by beat Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:41 am

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your quote @2:55am

We need some sleep.

next one @9:34 am

Figure you didn't fall asleep at the computer then just woke up so giving you a 1/2 hour on each end to get to sleep and wake up

I figure you got about 5 good hours of ZZZZZZZZZ's

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Agree, teams needs to use it's brains a lot more than they have shown.

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Post by Sam Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:07 am

Beat,

Actually, I looked at my watch when I first went on the computer this morning, and it was 8:08. Four or five hours of sleep usually seem just about right. But I've been known to take naps between posts during the day. And lately I've been able to gain sleep vicariously from some of the Celtics' play. LOL.

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Post by bigpygme Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:30 pm

Outside wrote:You guys would know better than me, but I always thought of Havlicek as a hybrid between a middle distance runner and a marathoner. He wasn't lightning-quick, but he was reasonably fast and he never stopped moving, so eventually everyone trying to guard him would wind up lagging behind him, which made him appear quicker than he actually was. If that makes sense.

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Love your contributions here - i look forward to reading your posts.
And it may be a little late in th4e thread, but i just wanted to agree with your thoughts about Hondo. That he just ran and ran, and ran his opponent into the ground. And yes, maybe it was about medium tempo for a lot of it, rather than his being a speedster or especially quick, but the thing is, he never stopped ! He never quit and he never stopped.
I read somewhere years ago, maybe someone else on the forum can corroborate this, but I remember I read that an examination of Havlicek's lung capacity demonstrated that it was/is about 1/3rd greater than typical - a huge biological advantage, and a flukey thing that he certainly worked hard to put to good use. He combined his gift with effort and discipline to produce exceptional performances as a matter of routine.

Rebounding - we need to want to get to the ball more than the other guys. Seems simple enough but as others have said, the "want-to" is really important. Seems to me we have the guys with enough talent/ability that they can out-think some guys, out-hustle others and out-muscle still others, but they have to want to do the work.
Also agree with D14 that the coaching scheme needs to at least allow the players to do this - ideally it would promote guys doing this. (And they wisely declined to hire me on staff too [smile].)

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Post by beat Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:55 pm

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I'm still looking but

there are two pieces I'm trying to find.

One is ths story of Red sitting by a pool and Hondo is swiming lap after lap. Red finally says to him something like how far can you swim. Hondo said he didn't know. Red a little annoyed asked a mile? two? Hondo again said he didn't know as swiming was like walking.

Also remember reading that not only his lung capacity was out of whack with his size but he had a resting pulse rate like that of a marathon runner.
I think it was in the low 50's or so. Again I'll keep searching for the pieces but suffice to say he wasn't "normal" in a couple of ways.

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Post by bigpygme Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:24 pm

beat -

wow ! love the swimming story (and it makes perfect sense). and the note about his resting pulse is cool too. i'll certainly be most interested if you dig something else up.
in the meantime, he was remarkable physically/medically, and he certainly took full advantage of his gifts with a copious work ethic ! (i do love this stuff).

thanks, beat,

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