Mike Brown Fired

I am a little surprised that he was given only 5 games.
I wonder if the Princeton offense will go with him.
I hope Jerry Sloan comes out of retirement to coach the Lakers.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8610888/los-angeles-lakers-fired-coach-mike-brown-source-says

Surprising

Maybe there will be a Dwight Howard and Stan Van Gundy reunion...
Maybe a Steve Nash and Mike D'Antoni reunion...

tjmakz wrote:Maybe there will be a Dwight Howard and Stan Van Gundy reunion...
Maybe a Steve Nash and Mike D'Antoni reunion...

TJ,

Bummer about Brown. There are discussions about it ongoing on the the "Lakers 1-4" thread.

You're joking about those reunions, right?

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Chuck Person is being mentioned as an interim coach. Mike D'Antoni IS being mentioned as a permanent replacement.

I'm going on record right now as saying that Mike D'Antoni would be a disaster of epic proportions.

Mike Antoni (NO D) would not improve the Laker defense anymore than he improved the Knicks defense. He likes a non-stop running game with a scrambling non-positional defense. Bottom line, this Laker team doesn't have the horses for those styles at this time.

What exactly do these coaching failures say in their interviews that secure them these cherry jobs? Unbelievable.

Well, it's just a rumor, so far. On the other hand, Jim Buss hasn't exactly shown himself to be Red Auerbach either.


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If only they could get Rick Adelman. Oh wait, they had a chance at Adelman and took Brown. Oops.

So who out there can co exsist with the ego that is Kobe??

There are lot more issues than just a coach, but It's a lot easier this way then replacing a few players.

beat

I wouldn't be surprised if Brian Shaw, former asst coach under Phil Jackson and Kobe's #1 choice to replace Phil, comes back.

That makes more sense than Antoni. They go back to the triangle, which they all know, and maybe salvage this season.


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Bob

Any college coach out there? Someone else completely out of the pitcure?

Shaw makes sense..... so that can't happen.

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bobheckler wrote:This is what we saw







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bob,

It looks like you are pulling out the old BDC playbook with your last post.

bobheckler wrote:

tjmakz wrote:Maybe there will be a Dwight Howard and Stan Van Gundy reunion...
Maybe a Steve Nash and Mike D'Antoni reunion...

TJ,

Bummer about Brown. There are discussions about it ongoing on the the "Lakers 1-4" thread.

You're joking about those reunions, right?

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Um, yes and no.
Semi-serious about SVG but not rooting for it or expecting it.
Not serious about D'Antoni.

It is being reported that the Lakers will dump the Princeton offense.

In a win now mentality, I guess it's hard to implement and stick with a system that you hope works.

No new coach that LA hires is going to use the Princeton offense.

What are the odds that Phil Jackson is re-hired?

So much for all that talk last year from TJ - telling us how Mike Brown was a good coach, that he would be as good as Doc with the talent in LA, comparing him to Joe Torre.

Lakers should have respected Brian Shaw and given him a chance, instead of a stiff like Brown.

tjmakz wrote:

bobheckler wrote:This is what we saw







This is what actually happened







bob



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bob,

It looks like you are pulling out the old BDC playbook with your last post.

TJ,

I haven't said anything that was not convivial to or about another board member.

I did post some pictures that were not flattering to a player.

Have you been reading my posts about Jeff Green, Jason Terry and the Celtic bench? Have you not noticed how I have mocked the people, not board members, who have recently compared Jeff Green to James Worthy? Have you not read how I have chastised JET for talking big and not delivering?

You haven't reacted everytime I have repeatedly, persistently and consistently panned Steve Blake. That's because you don't like him either.

You like Kobe, so now you don't like me making fun of him and his Death Stare (a saying, may I point out, I did not create and wasn't even close to being the first one to use). What do you think a Death Stare looks like? This?








Your team is in turmoil and perhaps I was a bit insensitive, but I don't think we should take a .gif that makes fun of Kobe's Death Stare too seriously.

Especially since Kobe really is the Prince of Darkness. :-)


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bob,

I would have said the same thing to you if you did that to a picture of Blake or Kobe or any Lakers player.

If you give your opinion about how a player performs on the court like you have for Blake, I have no issues with that.

How many times do I stick up for other people, not just Kobe or Lakers? I have been backing referees, David Stern, ESPN, TNT, Sportswriters, etc for years on this forum, not because I like them, but I feel they were being unnecessarily attacked or what was said about them is just not true.

You have the right to post a video like you did of Kobe, but I have the right to object to it.

btw, Kobe's only 34 years old and already has crows-feet around the eyes.

And if I was going to put a picture of Blake up it would have been of him as Igor.

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mrkleen09 wrote:So much for all that talk last year from TJ - telling us how Mike Brown was a good coach, that he would be as good as Doc with the talent in LA, comparing him to Joe Torre.

Lakers should have respected Brian Shaw and given him a chance, instead of a stiff like Brown.

Your post is not even close to being accurate or truthful.

I still think Mike Brown is a good coach.
I think he will have a very successful career as a coach in the NBA.
I would expect he will be hired by one of the first teams that are lookig for a new head coach.
He is apparently just not the right coach for the Lakers at this time.

I never said he would be as good as Doc.
There's a lot that Doc has that Mike Brown will never have.
Doc was a very good NBA player.
Doc played with more talented players (Dominique Wilkins, Kevin Willis, Bernard King, Patrick Ewing, etc), but he was the on the court leader for every one of those teams. I watched every Knicks game growing up and had/have nothing but respect for Doc as a leader.

I compared Mike Brown to Doc and Joe Torre to show that you need to give a coach years to prove he is a championship caliber coach.
Doc and Torre didn't just become great coaches because they won their first championship.
Doc was a good coach pre-Garnett/Allen and Torre was a good coach with the Braves despite his W/L record.

It's easy to bash a player when they are going through a bad stretch.
It's easy to bash a coach the day they get fired.

Mike Brown has won a Coach of the Year Award and has a career coaching record of .653.
I am not going to try to claim he is not a good coach.

Did he come onboard the Cavs when Lebron was drafted or before/after?

tjmakz wrote:

mrkleen09 wrote:So much for all that talk last year from TJ - telling us how Mike Brown was a good coach, that he would be as good as Doc with the talent in LA, comparing him to Joe Torre.

Lakers should have respected Brian Shaw and given him a chance, instead of a stiff like Brown.

Your post is not even close to being accurate or truthful.

I still think Mike Brown is a good coach.
I think he will have a very successful career as a coach in the NBA.
I would expect he will be hired by one of the first teams that are lookig for a new head coach.
He is apparently just not the right coach for the Lakers at this time.

I never said he would be as good as Doc.
There's a lot that Doc has that Mike Brown will never have.
Doc was a very good NBA player.
Doc played with more talented players (Dominique Wilkins, Kevin Willis, Bernard King, Patrick Ewing, etc), but he was the on the court leader for every one of those teams. I watched every Knicks game growing up and had/have nothing but respect for Doc as a leader.

I compared Mike Brown to Doc and Joe Torre to show that you need to give a coach years to prove he is a championship caliber coach.
Doc and Torre didn't just become great coaches because they won their first championship.
Doc was a good coach pre-Garnett/Allen and Torre was a good coach with the Braves despite his W/L record.

It's easy to bash a player when they are going through a bad stretch.
It's easy to bash a coach the day they get fired.

Mike Brown has won a Coach of the Year Award and has a career coaching record of .653.
I am not going to try to claim he is not a good coach.

well for a good coach his team sure was playing like crap, Doc never went through a stretch where his team played as uninspired and lackadasical and barely even showed up as this crew did for 5 games.

TJ, I think you're being a little sensitive about the Kobe GIF. I thought it was just plain funny. I saw it as a satire on the situation, not a knock on Kobe at all.

My Laker friend is saying Phil Jackson is coming back.

As the World Turns. Or maybe it's All My Children.


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Bob, When Jim Buss interviewed Mike Brown for the Lakers job, it was after the Lakers with a porous defense had lost to Dallas in the semi's. Mike Brown presented very detailed defensive schemes about how to defend pick and rolls and other maneuvers that the Mavs worked successfully against LA. Buss was impressed by Brown's meticulous preparation and hired Brown on that basis. Too bad the Laker players weren't as impressed. They didn't play hard for him and the results are obvious this year. Now I personally think 5 games is way too short a chance for Mike Brown, but who am I to tell the Buss family what to do. Still, I would love it if they hired Stan van Gundy just to see Dwight blow a fuse, but that will never happen.

worcester wrote:Bob, When Jim Buss interviewed Mike Brown for the Lakers job, it was after the Lakers with a porous defense had lost to Dallas in the semi's. Mike Brown presented very detailed defensive schemes about how to defend pick and rolls and other maneuvers that the Mavs worked successfully against LA. Buss was impressed by Brown's meticulous preparation and hired Brown on that basis. Too bad the Laker players weren't as impressed. They didn't play hard for him and the results are obvious this year. Now I personally think 5 games is way too short a chance for Mike Brown, but who am I to tell the Buss family what to do. Still, I would love it if they hired Stan van Gundy just to see Dwight blow a fuse, but that will never happen.

worcester,

They were saying last night during the Lakers-GSW game that Phil Jackson and Mike D'Antoni are the leading candidates for the permanent job.

My money is on Phil, big-time. They want to win this year? Then go back to the offensive and defensive playbooks that 3 of the starters already know (Blake is not a starter, he's a hideous placeholder). The triangle isn't simple, and Nash and Howard will have a learning curve (especially Howard), but it's the best option available to them.

As far as Jerry Buss's idiot son's decision to hire Brown goes, there's more to building a team than impressing the owner, like, you know, involving your star player in the decision? Kobe was out of the loop and, guess what, he never put his heart into Mike Brown. If Kobe doesn't, neither will Pau, TAFKARA or anybody else because it's Kobe's team.


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Idiot son is an apt description. Phil makes supreme sense. We'll see how persuasive Jerry Buss' daughter is with her feminine wiles.