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Post by kdp59 Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:13 pm

Hey Bob,

can I change my mock draft to Stokes in the late first instead of Young?

LOL
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Post by Sam Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:19 am

kdp,

You can edit your own posts by clicking on the "EDIT" button above the post.  A text box will pop up, and you may cut and paste or simply change things or pretty much do whatever you want.  After you make the edits, click on "SEND" just as you did to sent the original post.  You work so hard on these things that you deserve to have it completely to your liking.

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Post by Sam Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:45 am

The more I see these foreign names among the draft possibilities, the more I find myself wondering whether Johnny Most would have been able to maintain his machine gun delivery nowadays.  "Porzingis and Tavares are going at it tooth and nail .  Now Tav levels Crispy with an elbow as little Shabazz jumps off the bench and joins the fray.  And now Shabby is biting Crispy in the kneecap.  And here comes the featured bout, with Vaselinio Micicinic and Thanasis Antetokounmpo squaring off.  Now Tiny throws a low blow, bending the Slippery One over in agony.  What a dirty, filthy punch Lady Antebellotokounmpo threw!  Go to commercial I'm all Euro-verklempt!  Can anybody find my teeth?"

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Post by kdp59 Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:51 am

it's getting good now!!

just read a rumor that UTAH has offered Favors and the #5 pick for # 1 to pick Parker!

I can see that happening IF Embiids foot is as has been talked about.

gotta make mock 2.0 I think.
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Post by Outside Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:40 am

kdp,

I'm impressed with all the work you've put into it. I'm too lazy, and my mock draft won't be ready until next Friday.
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Post by kdp59 Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:21 pm

that aint workin'!!!

this stuff's FUN
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Post by bobheckler Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:19 am

Here's an interesting one.  This video breaks down the one-on-one matchups between Kyle Anderson, who worked out for us and many think we should and will take at #17, and Aaron Gordon, whom many have had us taking with #6.  Chad Ford of ESPN claims that Danny is "locked in" on Gordon @ 6.

So, what happens when they go at each other?





I could see where the hitch in Anderson's shot might prove to be a problem in the NBA but other than that he's a pretty good all-round player.  We wouldn't have to wait years for the game to slow down for him, he's already QUITE deliberate.  Gordon seems to be driven overwhelmingly by athleticism.  That doesn't mean he can't improve in areas like shooting, of course, but he's not as advanced a player as Anderson is at this time.  Then again, this is as athletic as Anderson will probably ever be.



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Post by kdp59 Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:44 am

looks like Payton and Warren have moved up a bit in most mocks now, with Anderson  and Young moving back some.

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Payton @15
Warren @17
Young @19
Anderson @20

IF Ainge does go Gordon at #6 I like Young over Anderson @17 myself.
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Post by Outside Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:49 am

kdp,

I think you missed the part where I said my mock draft won't be ready until next Friday... which is the day after the draft.

Seriously, though, if you're enjoying doing it, keep it up. It's certainly adding to all the pre-draft fun.
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Post by Outside Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:00 pm

My original thoughts were to tap the brakes on Anderson because of his liabilities at the defensive end, but after seeing what Diaw did for San Antonio, I can see Anderson being that type of player. He's a smart kid, and in the right system, he could thrive. It may take him a few years to adjust to NBA speed and athleticism, though.
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Post by kdp59 Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:19 pm

no I chuckled when I saw that Outside.

that's always the best way to get the most correct picks I have found.

I see the Anderson/Diaw possibility as well.

though I would still take Young if he is there at #17 myself.
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Post by Outside Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:01 pm

I wouldn't take Young. The Celtics need scoring, and toughness is always a good thing, but Young would occupy the same space as Sullinger.
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Post by kdp59 Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:21 pm

no , no JAMES young from Kentucky

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Post by steve3344 Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:51 pm

Terrible news for this kid:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/genetic-disorder-ends-the-career-of-nba-prospect-isaiah-austin-181730781.html

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Post by Sam Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:19 pm

I hope he lives a long, productive, happy life.  He's had a terrible break, but he sounds like the kind of guy who will face it head-on and make the best of it.  All the luck in the world, Isaiah.

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Post by Outside Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:27 pm

I only saw the Austin play one game, but he seemed like he could eventually be a player. I'm glad they do such thorough screenings before the draft and discover things like this.
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Post by bobheckler Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:41 am

http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2014/06/nba_draft_rumors_2014_after_da.html



NBA Draft rumors 2014: After Dario Saric reportedly agrees to European deal, Boston Celtics still interested at No. 17

Print Jay King | mjking@masslive.com By Jay King | mjking@masslive.com
on June 23, 2014 at 11:05 AM, updated June 23, 2014 at 11:24 AM




An expected lottery pick before Monday, Dario Saric could drop near the middle of the first round after agreeing to a three-year contract with Turkish team Anadolu Efes, according to ESPN's Chad Ford.

Ford reported Monday morning that Saric intends to sign the contract, which should keep him out of the NBA for at least two years, at some point within the next 24 hours. The deal will have a player option for a third year.

After achieving early success overseas, Saric, 20, is widely considered a lottery-level talent and could have even gone in the top 10. But his decision to sign overseas could push his stock downward and potentially leave him available when the Boston Celtics draft at No. 17.

According to Ford, the Hawks (No. 15), Celtics, Suns (18) and Bulls (19) are all expected to give Saric draft consideration. The 6-foot-10 forward averaged 16.7 points, 9.7 rebounds and 3.2 assists over 28 games in the Adriatic League this past season, winning the Final Four MVP with 23 points, 11 rebounds, seven assists and five blocks in the championship game.

Would the Celtics be thrilled to draft someone who won't contribute to an NBA team for at least a couple of years? Probably not. But they don't draft based on instant gratification. If they don't feel overwhelmed by anyone else at that spot, they could determine the forward's value outweighs the fact that he likely won't make his NBA debut until at least the 2016-17 season.

A similar-caliber prospect, Nikola Mirotic, went No. 23 in 2011 and now qualifies as one of Chicago's better trade assets despite not having made his way to the United States yet.





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Post by bobheckler Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:47 pm

Figures that it would be a blog from Jersey that would be making book...


http://blog.northjersey.com/knicks/330/the-odds-on-the-nba-draft/



The odds on the NBA Draft?
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Andrew Wiggins 1/2

Jabari Parker 7/5

Joel Embiid 12/1

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Over/Under 3½

NBA Draft – Draft Position – Joel Embiid

Over/Under 5

NBA Draft – Draft Position – Julius Randle

Over/Under 6½

NBA Draft – Draft Position – Marcus Smart

Over/Under 5½

NBA Draft – Draft Position – Doug McDermott

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Over/Under 10½

NBA Draft – Draft Position – Tyler Ennis

Over/Under 18½

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Over/Under 25½

NBA Draft – How many non NCAA players will be drafted in the 1st Round?

Over/Under 4½

NBA Draft – How many NCAA Freshman will be drafted in the 1st Round?

Over/Under 8½

NBA Draft – How many NCAA Seniors will be drafted in the 1st Round?

Over/Under 2½



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Post by Sam Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:03 pm

Gripping!  My hand is glued to my wallet.

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Post by bobheckler Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:38 pm

Chad Ford's Mock Draft 10.0, aka 6/23/14.


http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:11122778



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Post by kdp59 Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:56 pm

yeah..the Celtics are going to take Embiid at 6 (likely out most or all of the year) and Saric at 17 (won't see him for two years).

I think NOT!!

I mean do these sports (so-called) writers actually THINK about what they write/say?

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Post by steve3344 Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:52 pm

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/2014-nba-mock-draft--take-4-051318863.html

Marc Spears says the Celtics will be "ecstatic" if they get to draft Aaron Gordon. Really? Ecstatic? I haven't seen anyone on here drooling at that prospect. He seems like a fine (but flawed) player. Great athlete, terrific defender, limited offensively. I guess I'd be okay with it, but ecstatic?

I would've been ecstatic if we could be drafting in the top 3. 6? Not so much. And not so much for Gordon either. If we do draft him I hope he exceeds our expectations and develops a reliable offensive game, which, since he's young enough and raw enough, could happen. But I don't see him as a sure thing. And ecstatic is not a word that ever crossed my mind at the thought of getting him.

Would anybody here be "ecstatic" if it happened? Just curious.

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Post by kdp59 Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:54 am

I like him a lot and think he will most likely be the pick.

with the roster we have now, we need athletic players, hard workers and high BB IQ types. Gordon checks all those marks.

I think his ceiling is a Dennis Rodman type defensive player and rebounder.

he's been compared to Shawn Marion by some also.

he's very young , so most likely has a lot of room to improve if he's a worker (which everyone says he is).

he could fit in nicely in a couple years with Sully and Kelly O up front.

I think Ainge likes him as well.
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Post by steve3344 Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:03 am

kdp59 wrote:I like him a lot and think he will most likely be the pick.

with the roster we have now, we need athletic players, hard workers and high BB IQ types. Gordon checks all those marks.

I think his ceiling is a Dennis Rodman type defensive player and rebounder.

he's been compared to Shawn Marion by some also.

he's very young , so most likely has a lot of room to improve  if he's a worker (which everyone says he is).

he could fit in nicely in a couple years with Sully and Kelly O up front.

I think Ainge likes him as well.

Here's the line that jumps out at me in this mock draft that has Gordon going 8th and Smart to us at 6:

"To be blunt, his jump shot is broken." That scares the Hell out of me when scoring was such a huge problem for us last year.

http://hoopshype.com/draft_2014.htm

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Post by kdp59 Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:01 pm

I understand that shooting/scoring isn't great, nor is he likely to ever be a go-to scorer in the NBA.

but IF he developes into the defensive player and rebounder that many think I think you take him.

Smart makes sense at 6 also, especialy IF Rondo is not expected to be here in two years.
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