2014 NBA Draft

for who Sam?

Like I said I can Gordon's ceiling as similar to Dennis Rodman.

without all the drama of course.

if that's correct, he'll be a hell of a player on a championship team one day.

I agree also he'll be best at SF in the NBA, so you need an outside shooting 4 to play with him.

As of 6/9 Draftexpress has Dante Exum falling to #6.  Vonleh and Smart leapfrogged him.

They also have us taking Zack LaVine. So, are they expecting us to try and corner the market on point guards? Amass them like they were draft picks?


bob



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Kurt Helin is reporting that Denver is shopping the #11 pick.

How about #6 for #11, another 1st and some 2nds?  In this draft the difference between 6 and 11 is pretty big.  You could get Vonleh or Smart or Exum and they'll be starters in a few years.

We take #11 and use it on Saric or Nurkic (or even McDermott or Stauskas).

This is assuming that we don't trade the #6 for Love.

I'm getting dizzy.


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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/2014-nba-mock-draft--take-2-052236989.html

a couple days old , but a good read on their top 30 players.

if its been posted here , just delete it.

http://hoopshype.com/draft_2014.htm

Two weeks from tonight we can start building a new Celtic era. I saw one mock draft today on Yahoo Sports that had both Exum and Smart available when we pick and the writer said Boston would go for Smart. I highly doubt if that scenario happened, Danny would pass up Exum for Smart.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/13/report-joel-embiids-physical-with-cavaliers-showed-enough-red-flags-that-they-wont-take-him-no-1-overall/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

Well if that's a leak and it's true, it does the Cavs no favors. If they're not going to target Embiid then getting a trade down would be desirable so that another team (Bucks or Sixers) would give an asset for Embiid and let the Cavs get the player they want. This leak hurts their ability to do that.

KyleCleric wrote:Well if that's a leak and it's true, it does the Cavs no favors. If they're not going to target Embiid then getting a trade down would be desirable so that another team (Bucks or Sixers) would give an asset for Embiid and let the Cavs get the player they want. This leak hurts their ability to do that.

Kyle,

I think this leak was intentional and helps the Cavs.
Supposedly Milwaukee is locked in with Parker at #2 and Philly really wants Wiggins.
If Philly thinks Cleveland is going to pass on Embiid for Wiggins, that might move Philly to trade up to the #1 pick. Then Cleveland can draft Embiid at 3 who they wanted anyway.

Kristaps Porzingis pulls out of NBA draft, will stay in Europe for another season.

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/kristaps-porzingis-pulls-out-of-nba-draft--will-stay-in-europe-for-another-season-011502539.html

blurb from draftnet:

http://nbadraft.net/team-needs-atlantic-division-5

Boston Celtics
Needs: Everything except point guard
Picks: 6, 17

The Celtics knew when they blew up the "Big Three" era that it was going to be a total rebuild. Well, here they are looking to rebuild. The first and most important decision the team must decide on is what to do with Rajon Rondo. Do they want to keep him and build around him, or would it be in their best interest to trade him for other assets? There have been a number of rumors surrounding Rondo over the past few seasons, and where there is smoke there often is fire - so it wouldn't surprise me if they trade him at some point this summer. Among insiders, he's believed to be one of the most difficult players in the league, and there are questions about the ability to build a winner around a team led by such a difficult player. For now, let's look at their approach should they elect to keep him and his expiring contract in town. They will have cap space to use in free agency (or to help in the event that they make a play to acquire Kevin Love) and two first round picks. They pick 6th and 17th, which should net them some quality players. As it stands, they have Rondo, Jeff Green, and Jared Sullinger as building blocks for the future, and they will look to add to that talent base on draft day. Rumors persist that the team is extremely high on Aaron Gordon at 6, however we believe that would be a significant reach. Marcus Smart would be a solid option if Ainge has decided that Rondo is not part of the team's long term plans, a distinct possibility. If not, I think they could benefit greatly by getting a player like Noah Vonleh who would fit in well alongside Sullinger. Sullinger is very skilled but lacks ideal athleticism and shot blocking. Vonleh lacks the offensive game, but excels at rebounding and is improving at protecting the rim and has all kinds of athleticism. They would fit perfectly together in the Celtics frontcourt. At 17, it may be wise for the C's to look at prospects that can play the point guard spot, with such a talented class this year. Elfred Payton, Kyle Anderson, Jordan Clarkson, and Shabazz Napier could all potentially be available there.

steve3344 wrote:Kristaps Porzingis pulls out of NBA draft, will stay in Europe for another season.

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/kristaps-porzingis-pulls-out-of-nba-draft--will-stay-in-europe-for-another-season-011502539.html

The good news is that now we won't have to wonder if Danny goes with a 7'0 footer or a shooter like TJ Warren, Porzingis made that decision for him. Maybe he's not so hot on going to OKC, who was rumored to have made him a promise.

Will he be forced to enter the draft next year, or can he just be signed?


bob



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Trade the pick, Danny.  Trade the pick.

Sam

JOEL EMBIID’S CAVS PHYSICAL MAY HAVE COST HIM TOP SPOT
BY SPENCER LUND


Kansas freshman Joel Embiid was said to be Cleveland’s favorite to be selected with the No. 1 pick in the 2014 NBA Draft. But a report after Embiid’s physical with the Cavs says it “raised red flags” and could mean they turn towards Andrew Wiggins or Jabari Parker with their first selection.

Embiid has been an enigma for draft enthusiasts after sitting out the Big 12 and NCAA Tournament following back surgery. Since then he’s shown enough talent in workouts to sooth any apprehensions about his health, making him a possibility to be selected with the top pick.

Except, after Embiid underwent a physical with the team, it seems things aren’t so peachy with the former Kansas center’s health:


The news comes the same week Gery Woelfel of the Racine Journal Times in Milwaukee reported the Cavs were keeping the No. 1 pick and had “honed in on Embiid” for the first pick:


Obviously the Cavs are leery of health issues after a strained shoulder forced the top pick in the 2013 Draft, Anthony Bennett, from staying in shape before his rookie campaign. He struggled mightily to catch up and get his wind in what was considered a historically awful first-year performance by a No. 1 pick.

An NBA source informed the Cleveland Plain Dealer today the Cavs will work out Andrew Wiggins on Wednesday next week and Jabari Parker on Friday — the two most likely candidates to go No. 1 if Embiid is indeed out of the running.



bob
Whoa! IF this is true, and IF other teams work out Embiid (and of course subject him to a physical like Cleveland did because he didn't attend the Combine) and they're afraid of him too...Don't trade the pick quite yet Danny.


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why Bob?

if (big IF) he has a major back issue, why would the Celtics want to waste a pick on him?

kdp59 wrote:why Bob?

if (big IF) he has a major back issue, why would the Celtics want to waste a pick on him?

kdp,

Because of the advances in sports medicine and because patience is a virtue (See Sullinger, Jared).



bob


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bobheckler wrote:

kdp59 wrote:why Bob?

if (big IF) he has a major back issue, why would the Celtics want to waste a pick on him?

Because of the advances in sports medicine and because patience is a virtue (See Sullinger, Jared).

And because opportunities for a center with the potential that Embiid has don't come around very often.

The risk is that he becomes like Greg Oden and never has an NBA career, but if his physical shows that his back is manageable and he's still available, they should take him.

Trade the pick, Danny.  Trade the pick.

Sam

Shabazz Napier: "I bleed Green."

http://nesn.com/2014/06/shabazz-napier-i-bleed-green-no-matter-nba-draft-fate/

Unfortunately, we don't need another microscopic point guard.

Napier and Vonleh, two homegrown prospects. Nice. IF Napier is better than Pressey, then fine. Pressey's contract isn't guaranteed. I do agree, however, we don't need 3 point guards under 6'1". Once again, I don't know what packages Danny is putting together for possible trade scenarios, and that is THE key question. What needs will be created as we fill others or upgrade at a position?

I don't think Asik is worth the #6 pick plus enough players to make $9M worth of payroll. Love is, but who knows what Minny wants or what other teams are offering.


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As long as Danny gets an intimidating defensive center who rebounds very well, I'm fine with not getting Asik.  Just reel of the names of all the other potentially available players who fit the description of intimidating defensive center who rebounds very well, and I'll be happy.

Sam

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-pm-whos-draft-stock-is-on-the-rise/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=nba-pm-whos-draft-stock-is-on-the-rise&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


NBA PM: Whose Draft Stock is On the Rise?
By Alex Kennedy | Senior NBA Editor
Updated: June 18, 2014




Whose Draft Stock is On the Rise?

The 2014 NBA Draft is one week away, which means teams are starting to zero in on players and prospects are starting to climb based on their performance in the pre-draft process. Here is a look at eight prospects whose stock is on the rise:


Doug McDermott – McDermott is the biggest name on this list and even though he entered the pre-draft process ranked relatively high, his stock is still soaring and it’s very possible that he’ll be picked in the top eight on June 26.

Initially, McDermott was expected to be a mid-to-late first rounder, which wasn’t bad for him considering he’ll be 23 years old in January and there were some questions about the level of competition he dominated against at Creighton.

However, there’s a bit of a love fest going on over McDermott. This started at the NBA combine in Chicago, when McDermott came off incredibly well in interviews. One executive who interviewed McDermott in Chicago said that he and his fellow front office staffers fell in love with the forward during their face-to-face meeting, to the point that the group cheered and high-fived when McDermott correctly answered a tough math question designed to trick players. That’s how likeable this guy is. As a coach’s son, McDermott says all of the right things and carries himself very well, which is an important part of this process.

However, he has also wowed teams on the court and surprised some talent evaluators in workouts. The guy can flat out score the ball and hit shots from anywhere on the court, so it’s no surprise that he has been able to dominate in the workout environment and embarrass some of his peers. One executive recently told me that McDermott is the best shooter to come through the draft in quite awhile. The Creighton star averaged 26.7 points per game as a senior and he never shot below 52.5 percent from the field during his collegiate career. Last season, he hit 44.9 percent of his three-point shots, a number that was actually down from his campaigns as a junior (49 percent) and sophomore (48.6 percent). Not to mention, he’s also a solid rebounder and has an exceptional basketball IQ.

McDermott was able to put up these ridiculous numbers despite being Creighton’s lone NBA prospect. After McDermott, the next highest scorer for the Bluejays was Ethan Wragge, who averaged just 10.4 points. Executives believe that McDermott will be even more of a threat in the NBA since he’ll be surrounded by NBA-caliber players and defenses won’t be throwing the kitchen sink at him.

There’s no question that McDermott’s defense is a concern, but he has vowed to work hard on that end of the floor to improve. As previously mentioned, his age is also a bit scary. How much more room for improvement does he really have? And does it make sense to pick him over one-and-done prospects like Aaron Gordon or Noah Vonleh, both of whom are four years younger than McDermott?

McDermott has been mentioned as a serious option for the Sacramento Kings at No. 8, Charlotte Hornets at No. 9 and Philadelphia 76ers at No. 10. It’s hard to imagine him slipping out of the lottery at this point, and there’s also the possibility that a team will trade up to land McDermott on draft night.


Elfrid Payton – The biggest climber in recent weeks has been Payton, who is now drawing interest from several teams in the teens and even getting serious looks from lottery teams.

Entering his junior season at Louisiana-Lafayette, he was being projected as a second-rounder. After a dominant campaign in which he averaged 19.2 points, six rebounds, 5.9 assists and 2.3 steals while leading ULL to the NCAA Tournament, he was being projected as a late first-round pick. Now, after dominating pre-draft workouts, it’s unlikely that he drops past the Boston Celtics at No. 17 (as a number of people around the NBA have said that this is his floor).

Payton has had the chance to work out against some of the other top point guard prospects in this draft class, including Marcus Smart and Tyler Ennis among others, and he has done a fantastic job. Entering this process, there were some questions about how he would fare against NBA-level competition, since he didn’t face the toughest opposition in college. However, his workouts have erased that concern and now the only question surrounding Payton is just how high will he go on June 26?

After seeing him destroy his peers in workouts, many teams went back to the film to see what they missed on Payton throughout the season. They were reminded that he was one of the best players in the nation last year, ranking 11th in the country in field goals (237), 11th in assists (208), ninth in steals (80) and sixth in points produced (732). His lockdown defense also earned him the Lefty Driesell Award, which is given to college basketball’s top defensive player.

His shot needs some work, but there is just so much to like about Payton. He has the size (6’4), length (6’8 wingspan) and quickness to cause problems in the NBA, and these traits have led to some comparisons to Rajon Rondo (whom Payton says he studies and models his game after). Payton can run the pick-and-roll and facilitate for teammates, and his swarming defense will make his NBA head coach fall in love with him.

Payton is also incredibly tough, which isn’t a surprise when you consider that his father, Elfrid Payton Sr., was a star defensive end in the Canadian Football League, playing from 1991 to 2004 and making seven All-Star appearances throughout his career. He was a two-time Grey Cup champion and was inducted into the Canadian Football Hall of Fame in 2010.

Several destinations for Payton include No. 8 to the Sacramento Kings (or slightly below that to the Kings if they trade down), No. 12 to the Orlando Magic, No. 16 to the Chicago Bulls or No. 17 to the aforementioned Celtics.


Rodney Hood – Entering the pre-draft process, Hood was being projected in the 20-25 range, but he has really helped in his draft stock lately. Now, it seems that Hood could go in the late lottery or mid-teens.

Hood has a lot of fans around the NBA, and it’s hard to imagine him falling past the Chicago Bulls at No. 16 given their need for scoring and three-point shooting.

The former Duke forward is automatic shooting the ball from just about anywhere on the court. He has really impressed teams in workouts with his scoring ability, and teams like that his excellent shooting ability is an obvious translatable skill that will help his transition to the league.

Even though Hood’s shooting is his biggest strength, he’s determined to show teams that he’s much more than just a shooter. He’s an efficient scorer with a high basketball IQ, and he has been working hard to improve his ballhandling and finishing at the rim so he can be a more well-rounded scorer. He has also been spending a lot of time in the weight room to bulk up and add some strength to his lanky frame. Hood also believes he’s better defensively than advertised, and throughout this process he has pointed out that he was often tasked with guarding the opponent’s best player on most nights for Duke.

Teams also love Hood’s work ethic and desire to be great. He has been very committed to the pre-draft process, doing two-a-days in the gym at IMG Academy. He has also changed his diet to follow a professional nutrition plan while doing vision training, swimming drills, weightlifting, drills on the IMG football field and more to prepare for the NBA, which proves how serious he is about getting better.

Hood will turn 22 years old in October, which is likely the only reason he isn’t being mentioned as a top-10 pick. Some teams may feel that he doesn’t have the upside of a younger prospect. However, Hood does have a lot of supporters around the NBA and he seems poised to have a long, successful career.


T.J. Warren – If you read a lot of mock drafts, you’ve probably noticed that Warren keeps climbing higher and higher with every new version that comes out.

Initially, he was being projected as a late-first round pick – an attractive prospect for a win-now team like the Houston Rockets, Miami HEAT or Oklahoma City Thunder. Now, you’re starting to see Warren projected to go just outside of the lottery, with teams like the Atlanta Hawks, Boston Celtics, Chicago Bulls and Phoenix Suns being mentioned as possible landing spots for Warren.

One executive whose team is picking in the late-20s recently told me that they would select Warren in a heartbeat if he fell to them, but that there’s “no way” he’ll be available when they’re on the clock.

Warren is one of the best scorers in the draft, as last season he averaged 24.9 points and led the nation in field goals made (342). He was also one of the most efficient players in the country, finishing with a 31.3 PER that was the second-highest among the draft’s top 100 prospects (behind only Doug McDermott).

Warren scores most of his baskets on two-point jumpers, which is somewhat rare these days since most scorers knock down threes, finish at the rim or get to the foul line. But there’s no question that Warren is extremely skilled and has a great feel for the game. He’s expected to go in the middle of the first round, which is much higher than previously anticipated.


Zach LaVine – It’s easy to see why LaVine’s stock is up. The pre-draft environment is perfect for an athletic freak like LaVine, who can wow teams with his vertical leap and quickness. Teams see his athletic testing (including his 46-inch vertical leap) and wonder just how good he could become in an NBA development program.

Sure, he’s extremely raw and needs a lot of work, but he has certain things that you just can’t teach that are attractive to teams. A team can likely help LaVine improve his jump shot and ballhandling, but they can’t help a more skilled prospect become an athletic specimen who jumps out of the gym.

That’s why LaVine is getting so many looks right now; the draft is all about potential and most teams select players based on who they can become a few years down the road versus who they are now.

In college, LaVine played well in the beginning of the season at UCLA, but came down to earth in a big way late in the year. He isn’t a good shooter, which is a concern, and his assist rate leaves a lot to be desired. There are also concerns about his ability to play point guard in the NBA, since he’s more a combo guard who would need to learn the position and really improve his skills as a floor general.

He’s only 19 years old and teams are excited about his upside, since he has all of the physical tools to be a very solid player in the NBA. The question is, as a boom-or-bust prospect, how high will he go on draft night? He’s someone who makes sense in the 15-20 range, since he’s a low-risk, high-reward pick there and a team can afford to be patient with him as he develops rather than expecting results from day one.


Jarnell Stokes – If you watched this year’s NCAA Tournament, there’s a good chance you know about Stokes. He was the monster for Tennessee who looked like a man among boys and consistently racked up double-doubles. Now, he’s performing similarly well in pre-draft workouts and seems to be solidifying himself as a first-round pick.

For much of the college season, Stokes was being projected as a second-rounder because teams worried that he was a bit undersized as a power forward and they weren’t sure if his skills would translate to the NBA. However, as teams have gotten a chance to see Stokes up close in workouts, they are confident that he can continue to be an interior force at the next level.

Stokes is 6’8.5 with a 7’1.25 wingspan, but it’s his mass and strength that separates him from a lot of big men. He weighs 263 lbs. and is incredibly strong, as evidenced by his 22 bench-press reps at the combine, where the all-time record is 27 reps.

His lower-body strength is ridiculous and his legs literally look like tree trunks, allowing him to move and overpower players who are bigger than him. What’s even more impressive is that Stokes says he had never really done squats until beginning his pre-draft training, which means he should be able to get even stronger once he enters an NBA development program.

Stokes is an excellent scorer and a beast on the offensive glass. He’s also young for a junior at 20 years old. Stokes has been on the NBA radar for quite awhile, since he was one of the top high school players in the 2011 class. This season at Tennessee, he averaged 15.1 points and 10.6 rebounds while shooting 53.1 percent from the field. Several years ago, he wanted to become more of perimeter player and modeled his game after Carmelo Anthony. However, he now understands that he’s at his best down low and he started studying film of Karl Malone and David West during his junior season.

Stokes is drawing interest from a number of teams in the 25-30 range, with the Miami HEAT said to really like him at No. 26. They’ve already worked him out once and are bringing him back for a second workout, which is why you’re starting to see Stokes to Miami in many mock drafts.

In a recent ESPN article by numbers guru Kevin Pelton, Stokes was rated the 12th-best prospect in terms of wins above replacement player projection.

Also, here’s a story to give you of an idea of Stokes’ toughness and competitiveness. He was recently being driven to a workout for the Indiana Pacers, when a car came out of nowhere and crashed into his vehicle. Stokes sustained a concussion, lacerations and his face was covered in blood, but he had to be talked into getting into an ambulance to go the hospital because he still wanted to make it to his Pacers workouts. Doctors told him that he would likely need to take three-to-four weeks off, but Stokes was back working out for teams one week later after reshuffling his schedule. That’s the kind of guy that I want on my team.


Shabazz Napier – Napier’s meteoric rise obviously started during the NCAA Tournament, when he shocked the world by leading Connecticut to a championship – his second title in four years.

While his strong play during March Madness certainly helped him a lot, there were still some questions about how he would translate to the NBA given his size and age.

At 6’1 and 175 lbs. with a 6’3.25 wingspan, many talent evaluators felt that he was too small to dominate against NBA opposition like he did in college. He’s also about to turn 23 years old next month, which has teams wondering if he still has much upside, and that doesn’t look great next to teenage point guard prospects like Tyler Ennis and Zach LaVine.

However, there’s no question that Napier can play and he should be able to help an NBA team off of the bench from day one. That’s why he’s currently climbing draft boards, because the playoff teams in the 20-30 range believe he can make an immediate impact as a reserve.

Some teams like to go for the dare-to-be-great pick, selecting a project who could turn out to be a steal after a few years of development. But there are also teams that pick more conservatively and those are the teams that are showing a ton of interest in Napier.

Napier could sneak into the teens, to a team like the Chicago Bulls or Boston Celtics. If he doesn’t go that high, he’ll almost certainly get snatched up in the late first-round by a team like the Memphis Grizzlies, Miami HEAT, Charlotte Hornets (for a reunion with Kemba Walker), Los Angeles Clippers or San Antonio Spurs. Napier’s college resume is basically perfect, and some team is going to grab him in the first round.


Mitch McGary – McGary’s sophomore season at Michigan didn’t go quite as planned. After emerging as a key contributor during the Wolverines’ national championship run as a freshman, he decided to return to school and was expected to be the team’s focal point after Trey Burke and Tim Hardaway Jr. left for the NBA.

However, McGary ended up playing in just eight games as a sophomore due to a back injury and he averaged a mediocre 9.5 points and 8.3 rebounds. Then, during the NCAA Tournament, McGary tested positive for marijuana, which would have led to him being suspended for all of next season, so he entered the 2014 NBA Draft despite the fact that his stock had dropped significantly.

McGary was hoping for a breakout season that propelled him into the lottery, but that obviously didn’t happen and now he’ll likely go lower than he would have had he entered the 2013 NBA Draft.

With that said, McGary’s stock has been climbing in recent weeks and a number of executives believe that the big man has a promise from a team in the 20-30 range.

McGary’s decision to skip the NBA draft combine in Chicago several weeks ago was strange, and now he is refusing to work out for a number of teams. Whenever this happens, it usually means that a player has a promise from a team in the first round, since the team will encourage the player to shut down workouts and avoid other teams to ensure that they land their guy.

A number of teams have tried very hard to get McGary in for a workout, but his camp isn’t budging, which has talent evaluators around the NBA wondering which team has made him a promise. Fringe first-round picks don’t turn down workouts unless their camp has something up their sleeve.

Executives have speculated that he could have a promise from the Los Angeles Clippers at No. 28, Oklahoma City Thunder at No. 29 or San Antonio Spurs at No. 30. These are attractive organizations (hence why McGary’s camp would agree to shut down workouts) and each of these teams could use a skilled big man who’s capable of contributing right away. These teams likely view McGary as a great value pick late in the first round, considering he was being discussed as a potential lottery pick one year ago before the injury and suspension significantly hurt his stock.



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http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/story/_/id/11107087/joel-embiid-suffers-foot-injury-prior-nba-draft



Joel Embiid suffers foot injury
Updated: June 19, 2014, 11:58 AM ET
By Jeff Goodman | ESPN.com



Joel Embiid, considered the front-runner to be the No. 1 overall pick in the NBA draft, has suffered a right foot injury, his agent and his mentor both confirmed to ESPN.com on Thursday.

"He suffered a foot injury to his right foot sometime over the last few days,'' agent Arn Tellem told ESPN's Andy Katz by phone Thursday. "He's getting evaluations from various doctors and experts in the field. We'll know more Friday.''

Joel Embiid averaged 11.2 points, 8.1 rebounds and 2.6 blocks this past season as a freshman at Kansas.

One source told ESPN.com that Embiid "may have broken" his foot, but Tellem wouldn't speculate on the seriousness of the injury until he had heard from doctors. Tellem also said it was unlikely Embiid would be doing any more workouts before the draft, which is June 26.

Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Embiid's mentor, also was not certain as to the extent of the injury.

"I just heard he got hurt," said Mbah a Moute, who is overseas.

Embiid was scheduled to work out for Milwaukee Bucks, who hold the second overall pick, later this week.

The 7-foot native of Cameroon was already dealing with health questions regarding his back, which forced him to miss the Big 12 and NCAA tournaments.

He worked out earlier this month for the Cleveland Cavaliers, who have the No. 1 overall pick in the draft, and sources said he fared well and that the medical testing also came back without much concern.

Embiid also participated in a one-on-none workout in front of NBA teams in Santa Monica, Calif.

Embiid averaged 11.2 points, 8.1 rebounds and 2.6 blocks this past season as a freshman at Kansas.

Cleveland could also opt to select Duke freshman Jabari Parker or Kansas wing Andrew Wiggins with the No. 1 overall pick.



bob
MY NOTE:  What's scary about this is that there's a good chance this is a stress-related injury and not trauma-related.  It's really hard to ever "get past" stress-related injuries.


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Shades of 2007.

Sam